Who's Dropping all my Ratings ?
Wednesday, January 7, 2004 by fivesballs | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I know this has nothing to do with the recent problems that have occured with the site but... someone went through my library and dropped all my ratings within the past couple of hours 
!!! Why would someone do this to me ? not only have i lost over 3,000 dls/Many comments and some ratings because of the recent problems but now this... I mean it's hard for me to buy a dl/Rating or comment ..I understand thier are no answers but i just don't understand why someone would do this?(Someone make me understand the motive) I try to ignore ratings but 10's are 5's/ 7's are 4's Very discouraging to say the least 
And i guess i just wanted to say i'm well aware of it and not to happy At All
!!! Why would someone do this to me ? not only have i lost over 3,000 dls/Many comments and some ratings because of the recent problems but now this... I mean it's hard for me to buy a dl/Rating or comment ..I understand thier are no answers but i just don't understand why someone would do this?(Someone make me understand the motive) I try to ignore ratings but 10's are 5's/ 7's are 4's Very discouraging to say the least 
And i guess i just wanted to say i'm well aware of it and not to happy At All
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IPlural
Reply #42 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:57 PM
Reply #42 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:57 PM
I think that rating without commenting should probably be nixed as a means of better controlling abuse of the system.
Personally if I rate something I will comment upon it because it seems an integral part of the process for me. Though if anyone checks you will see I have not spent much time rating anything, which is something I am starting to do a little each day. Pick an area of the site and browse through and look at the submissions. Wall, icons, and screen shots I do not feel need to be downloaded as long as you can get a good shot of them so you see the style and structure of them. Skins, Themes and Cursors I am thinking need to be downloaded and installed so you not only see a shot but can get a feel for how they function also....
anyway...
Personally if I rate something I will comment upon it because it seems an integral part of the process for me. Though if anyone checks you will see I have not spent much time rating anything, which is something I am starting to do a little each day. Pick an area of the site and browse through and look at the submissions. Wall, icons, and screen shots I do not feel need to be downloaded as long as you can get a good shot of them so you see the style and structure of them. Skins, Themes and Cursors I am thinking need to be downloaded and installed so you not only see a shot but can get a feel for how they function also....
anyway...
IPlural
Reply #44 Thursday, January 8, 2004 1:07 AM
Reply #44 Thursday, January 8, 2004 1:07 AM
heck man, even Jim Jones got better than that! 
IPlural leans over and whispers to yrag, don't drink the coolaid
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IPlural leans over and whispers to yrag, don't drink the coolaid
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Stockholm Syndrome
Reply #46 Thursday, January 8, 2004 2:15 AM
Eh I have to disagree with regards to icons, both dock icons and IP packages. Sometimes the dock icons look a LOT better in the preview than on your dock. Or it just doesn't look good on my dock.
Good points though.
Reply #46 Thursday, January 8, 2004 2:15 AM
| Wall, icons, and screen shots I do not feel need to be downloaded as long as you can get a good shot of them so you see the style and structure of them. |
Eh I have to disagree with regards to icons, both dock icons and IP packages. Sometimes the dock icons look a LOT better in the preview than on your dock. Or it just doesn't look good on my dock.
Good points though.
SelfExiled
Reply #47 Thursday, January 8, 2004 2:32 AM
Reply #47 Thursday, January 8, 2004 2:32 AM
Ratings, bah humbug. 
I'm starting to sound like old crab. By the way, where is old crabby?
I'm starting to sound like old crab. By the way, where is old crabby?
dundalk120
Reply #49 Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:28 AM
Reply #49 Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:28 AM
I don't understand why you have a rating system anyway. I have seen skins get a 9 that I though were terrible, while other skins were given a 5 that I though were terrific. When your dealing with taste, there is no accounting for it. As the saying goes. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Also, as has been indicated, giving your freinds a high rating seems to be the in thing. If you really want the rating system to work, maybe it should be restricted to the top skinners who have proven their knowledge and artistic worth. Just a thought, don't jump all over me. I respect anyone who has the patience to make these skins.
IPlural
Reply #50 Thursday, January 8, 2004 1:41 PM
Reply #50 Thursday, January 8, 2004 1:41 PM
Because it helps keep people from really trashing beginners whom might not get rated high enough so everyone can see their submissions.
It is a safe guard for those working their way up the learning curve.
It is also something that I feel is definitly needed and is extreamly useful.
anyway...
It is a safe guard for those working their way up the learning curve.
It is also something that I feel is definitly needed and is extreamly useful.
anyway...
kongit
Reply #51 Thursday, January 8, 2004 2:06 PM
Reply #51 Thursday, January 8, 2004 2:06 PM
In some catagories the ratings are very useful and I use them too find the things I like. The best example is the iconpackager library. Most of the higher ranked skins include a lot of icons which is what I prefer over the packs that might look good, but don't cover much.
f0rTyLeGz
Reply #52 Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:37 PM
This makes wonderful sense to me! Honor must somehow be brought into the system... although the cream does seem to rise to the top... if the work is accepted.
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Reply #52 Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:37 PM
| #49 by Citizen dundalk120 - 1/8/2004 6:28:39 AM I don't understand why you have a rating system anyway. I have seen skins get a 9 that I though were terrible, while other skins were given a 5 that I though were terrific. When your dealing with taste, there is no accounting for it. As the saying goes. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Also, as has been indicated, giving your freinds a high rating seems to be the in thing. If you really want the rating system to work, maybe it should be restricted to the top skinners who have proven their knowledge and artistic worth. Just a thought, don't jump all over me. I respect anyone who has the patience to make these skins. |
This makes wonderful sense to me! Honor must somehow be brought into the system... although the cream does seem to rise to the top... if the work is accepted.
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Stockholm Syndrome
Reply #53 Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:53 PM
I don't think so. This suggestion has come up before and I don't agree. I have just as much right to my opinion of a skin as the top skinners. Plus, I don't see how this system would be without bias. I think some the skinners might not be totally objective when rating their competition.
Nothing personal though dundalk120, so please don't feel attacked.
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Reply #53 Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:53 PM
| If you really want the rating system to work, maybe it should be restricted to the top skinners who have proven their knowledge and artistic worth |
I don't think so. This suggestion has come up before and I don't agree. I have just as much right to my opinion of a skin as the top skinners. Plus, I don't see how this system would be without bias. I think some the skinners might not be totally objective when rating their competition.
Nothing personal though dundalk120, so please don't feel attacked.
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horiz0n
Reply #54 Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:54 PM
Reply #54 Thursday, January 8, 2004 3:54 PM
RUNS AND ATTACKS DUNDALK CHASING HIM WITH A SPORK
kona0197
Reply #55 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:04 PM
true but others will not agree with your ratings.
I agree with 20 to 30 raters like travis said. at least all would be fair.
Reply #55 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:04 PM
| I have just as much right to my opinion of a skin as the top skinners. |
true but others will not agree with your ratings.
I agree with 20 to 30 raters like travis said. at least all would be fair.
fivesballs
Reply #56 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:24 PM
Reply #56 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:24 PM
Listen again i will say i don't care about the ratings what i get or who gives it to me i can accept the fact if i get low ratings if someone thinks my stuff is rookie status i can understand :It is ....But when i notice everything in my library is affected at once I will accept that as a personal attack of sorts(suspicious to say the least) ...I do use the ratings system but in no way do i abuse the system but horiz0n / Travis you make very good points and i agree with both of you .I did not want to bring up the "Rating's Topic" and don't want you think i'm cryin about my ratings cause i'm not! I do believe in the ratings system to a certain extent but with every system thier are issues ...I didn't want to make that big of an issue of this but i guess i should of thought of this before i posted on the board ....Sorry hope i didn't offend anyone take care....
if someone thinks my stuff is rookie status i can understand :It is ....But when i notice everything in my library is affected at once I will accept that as a personal attack of sorts(suspicious to say the least) ...I do use the ratings system but in no way do i abuse the system but horiz0n / Travis you make very good points and i agree with both of you .I did not want to bring up the "Rating's Topic" and don't want you think i'm cryin about my ratings cause i'm not! I do believe in the ratings system to a certain extent but with every system thier are issues ...I didn't want to make that big of an issue of this but i guess i should of thought of this before i posted on the board ....Sorry hope i didn't offend anyone take care....
Bones2112
Reply #57 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:29 PM
Reply #57 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:29 PM
Here's my two cents.
I had a similar problem awhile back, got a big 2 rating on my skin the first day I uploaded it. Thanks to everyone who rated after, brought it back up though. A big thanks to Jafo for looking in on that problem. Here is my suggestion. Make it so when you rate a skin, you have to also leave a comment to go with the rating. If you take away the anonymous nature of the rating system ie, show a name and a comment for a rating, these little bouts of abuse would be nipped in the bud
I had a similar problem awhile back, got a big 2 rating on my skin the first day I uploaded it. Thanks to everyone who rated after, brought it back up though. A big thanks to Jafo for looking in on that problem. Here is my suggestion. Make it so when you rate a skin, you have to also leave a comment to go with the rating. If you take away the anonymous nature of the rating system ie, show a name and a comment for a rating, these little bouts of abuse would be nipped in the bud
kona0197
Reply #58 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:32 PM
VERY GOOD IDEA!
Reply #58 Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:32 PM
| Make it so when you rate a skin, you have to also leave a comment to go with the rating. If you take away the anonymous nature of the rating system ie, show a name and a comment for a rating, these little bouts of abuse would be nipped in the bud |
VERY GOOD IDEA!
WOM
Reply #60 Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:15 PM
Reply #60 Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:15 PM
Hehe All the good suggestions you people have made have been made multiple times before. This scene has been played out many times.
All the good suggestions you people have made have been made multiple times before. This scene has been played out many times.
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Reply #41 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:52 PM