Copy Protected CD's
Friday, December 5, 2003 by Leo the Lion | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I love listening to music whilst working on my PC. I really enjoy listening to some of Robbie Williams work and the other day decided i would add to my collection and purchase his Escapology Albumn CD from Amazon UK. I then got a mail from Amazon UK to say that it would be shipped from Germany - strange i thought 
Anyway i did not think anymore about it.
Anyway i got home tonight and there it was in the post. Put the CD in my D drive kicked up Winamp and Winamp spat its dummy at me >
Never had that problem i thought so i just put it down to a minor hiccup so rebooted my machine. Machine rebooted and tried again and then Winamp threw another wobbly when i inserted the CD. Leo not amused by this stage > So i got another Robbie Williams CD out and it played fine on Winamp. So i tried Escapology again and Winamp refused to load. I then noticed a little label on the front which is vertually unreadable saying Copy Controlled and then this silly little media player that i had never heard of popped up and the CD started playing. Leo then starts to put 2 and 2 together and trys WMP 9 and Creative Play Centre both fail to play the CD. Leo now not a very happy bunny >
So tell me guys........My Winamp5, WMP9 and Creative Play Centre2 are all working fine on all my CD's except Escapology. Are there 2 versions of Escapology? one copy controlled and another which is not? I am particulary fond of my Winamp Player and i am going to be damned if am going to use that excuse of a media player which came with the disc.
I am a bit behind the times when it comes to Copy Controlled CD's and i would love someone to tell me what the score is before i rip into AmazonUK for not making it clear on their site what i was buying. >
Anyway i did not think anymore about it.Anyway i got home tonight and there it was in the post. Put the CD in my D drive kicked up Winamp and Winamp spat its dummy at me >
Never had that problem i thought so i just put it down to a minor hiccup so rebooted my machine. Machine rebooted and tried again and then Winamp threw another wobbly when i inserted the CD. Leo not amused by this stage > So i got another Robbie Williams CD out and it played fine on Winamp. So i tried Escapology again and Winamp refused to load. I then noticed a little label on the front which is vertually unreadable saying Copy Controlled and then this silly little media player that i had never heard of popped up and the CD started playing. Leo then starts to put 2 and 2 together and trys WMP 9 and Creative Play Centre both fail to play the CD. Leo now not a very happy bunny > So tell me guys........My Winamp5, WMP9 and Creative Play Centre2 are all working fine on all my CD's except Escapology. Are there 2 versions of Escapology? one copy controlled and another which is not? I am particulary fond of my Winamp Player and i am going to be damned if am going to use that excuse of a media player which came with the disc.
I am a bit behind the times when it comes to Copy Controlled CD's and i would love someone to tell me what the score is before i rip into AmazonUK for not making it clear on their site what i was buying. >
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Erk.
Reply #22 Saturday, December 6, 2003 12:17 AM
Reply #22 Saturday, December 6, 2003 12:17 AM
...some more info I just found in "Australian PC Authority" mag.
"The disc loads anti-copying software onto the PC the first time it's played,... via the Windows' Autorun feature".
It (the article) goes on to say that a guy found a simple workaround, which I dont think I am allowed to post here.
(typo)
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"The disc loads anti-copying software onto the PC the first time it's played,... via the Windows' Autorun feature".
It (the article) goes on to say that a guy found a simple workaround, which I dont think I am allowed to post here.
(typo)
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Leo the Lion
Reply #23 Saturday, December 6, 2003 2:40 AM
Reply #23 Saturday, December 6, 2003 2:40 AM
Thanks Eric......i found a lot of the same.....anyway i wanged off an email to Amazon UK and pointed out the problems that i was experiencing with the disc and it would appear they have totally ignored the contents and their reply talks about about chasing up and looking into why i have not received the disc. I have got the freakin' disc - all i want is an "uncorrupted version" >
kongit
Reply #24 Saturday, December 6, 2003 2:44 AM
Reply #24 Saturday, December 6, 2003 2:44 AM
i'd also email the company that makes the cds and tell them that amazon UK sent you a dud cd. they might just send you a new one.
Erk.
Reply #25 Saturday, December 6, 2003 3:11 AM
Reply #25 Saturday, December 6, 2003 3:11 AM
Ok, no worries Leo.
Hope it works out the way you want. But I believe (by reading that article) (APC authority) that the anticopy software is now installed on our computers for that particular album. Not a prob for me, coz I don't usually play cd's on my comp.
Not 100% sure of that though....
Good luck.
Hope it works out the way you want. But I believe (by reading that article) (APC authority) that the anticopy software is now installed on our computers for that particular album. Not a prob for me, coz I don't usually play cd's on my comp.
Not 100% sure of that though....
Good luck.
PixelPirate
Reply #26 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:28 AM
Reply #26 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:28 AM
You should look into thread #22. The guy didn't get sued after all. There must be some sort of program on the CD that the autorun function starts in the background.
Erk.
Reply #27 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:33 AM
Reply #27 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:33 AM
There is Pixel Pirate. ....So you read the article too? Just dont put what the workaround was in this thread. I don't think it's allowed.
PixelPirate
Reply #29 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:45 AM
Reply #29 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:45 AM
No I didn't read that specific article, but it's been discussed in Denmark in the media, and of course at my work too. We had a good laugh 
I won't post such information here. Or anywhere...
I won't post such information here.
Or anywhere...
Keith Perry
Reply #30 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:49 AM
Reply #30 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:49 AM
Leo,
I have the CD on my computer, using Real One Rhapsody. For 9.95 a month, I can download as many albums as I want, including Escapology. I can send you the playlist if you'd like. You may have to use a 14 day trial, but I highly Recommend.
To burn them is .79 per song.
I like it because I can download a whole CD within a SECOND. If I like the CD and want it for my car, I just go buy the CD from a Store, because I already have it on my computer through Rhapsody. Thats just me though, I prefer Orignal CDs.
p.s. The sound quality is awesome for Rhapsody.
I have the CD on my computer, using Real One Rhapsody. For 9.95 a month, I can download as many albums as I want, including Escapology. I can send you the playlist if you'd like. You may have to use a 14 day trial, but I highly Recommend.
To burn them is .79 per song.
I like it because I can download a whole CD within a SECOND. If I like the CD and want it for my car, I just go buy the CD from a Store, because I already have it on my computer through Rhapsody. Thats just me though, I prefer Orignal CDs.
p.s. The sound quality is awesome for Rhapsody.
Leo the Lion
Reply #31 Saturday, December 6, 2003 8:35 AM
Reply #31 Saturday, December 6, 2003 8:35 AM
Thanks guys for all your thoughts and assistance. You have given me plenty to think about but whatever happens i am going to listen to the music i purchase on a media player of my choice and no record company is going to tell me otherwise. I love and prefer Winamp for a number of reasons, most of all because of its "skinability" and its going to play ALL my music come hell or high water.
Amazon UK and EMI - i am on your case - The Lion is not for turning (as our glorious ex-leader Margaret Thatcher said)
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Amazon UK and EMI - i am on your case - The Lion is not for turning (as our glorious ex-leader Margaret Thatcher said)
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werewolf
Reply #32 Saturday, December 6, 2003 1:06 PM
Reply #32 Saturday, December 6, 2003 1:06 PM
hmmm the last Metallica cd my son bought disables the cd-rom so that the os can't recognize it. I personally think that kind of thing sucks the big wazoo, but they must have their reasons.
citats
Reply #33 Saturday, December 6, 2003 1:06 PM
not true. the store bought DVD's known as DVD-9 (are actually double layered. You can not special order any DVD-9 blank cd's, they do not yet exist. you can however recompres and remove unwanted items like extra languages, angles and special segments to allow any DVD-9 (Iam refereing to video only) to fit on the smaller DVD-5. This is perfectly legal and will not work on copy protected DVD's.
also of note... its mentioned that you can not repeat in this thread a very simple windows 101... I will comply however thats just plain silly its not illegal.
best way to prevent someone (or a company) from installing software onto your computer without your knowledge (from an external media source) which I think should be illegal. Just disable autorun.
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Reply #33 Saturday, December 6, 2003 1:06 PM
| dvds that you get at the store are 10 gigs, the dvd rs and rws are 4.7 gigs, you cant copy movies, unless you 'special order' 10 gig dvds |
not true. the store bought DVD's known as DVD-9 (are actually double layered. You can not special order any DVD-9 blank cd's, they do not yet exist. you can however recompres and remove unwanted items like extra languages, angles and special segments to allow any DVD-9 (Iam refereing to video only) to fit on the smaller DVD-5. This is perfectly legal and will not work on copy protected DVD's.
also of note... its mentioned that you can not repeat in this thread a very simple windows 101... I will comply however thats just plain silly its not illegal.
best way to prevent someone (or a company) from installing software onto your computer without your knowledge (from an external media source) which I think should be illegal. Just disable autorun.
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d0p3y2k4
Reply #34 Saturday, December 6, 2003 4:30 PM
Reply #34 Saturday, December 6, 2003 4:30 PM
i rip all my cds using easy cd da exctractor & music match but and have over 24gbs in my pc
Jafo
Reply #35 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:14 PM
Reply #35 Saturday, December 6, 2003 5:14 PM
It may be 'educational' or even hugely beneficial to assist with cracks/ warez and work-arounds which are all in themselves infringements on a product's EULA and/or copyright and anyone is entirely 'free' to do so on.......
THEIR OWN SITE
....as much as they wish and to their heart's content.
This is NOT 'your site', but actually we are ALL guests here and are obliged to abide by the host's requirements/code of conduct.
That being the case, no, such explanations of how to bypass copy protection are NOT condoned here, and will be removed, if necessary - along with the poster....
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Reply #21 Friday, December 5, 2003 11:40 PM
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protections.shtml
I have that album, and encountered the same problem just now, when trying it in my comp. But I usually play my albums on my normal sound system, so did not know about it before.
I have not had time to look through the site myself yet, so if you find a workaround, let me know?