Object Dock For games... [Kona0197]
Saturday, November 29, 2003 by XFIXX | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
When will you be uploading them. I really would love to be one of the first to download those kickass docks. If anyone knows the link please place a link to tell me where to get these docks. Hopefully soon 
Thanx Kona0197
Thanx Kona0197
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Koasati
Reply #62 Monday, December 1, 2003 9:20 AM
Reply #62 Monday, December 1, 2003 9:20 AM
Thanx BakerStreet........ I've been sitting on my hands here, trying to behave, but geez! Kona, if you're going to continue with these "conversions" could you at least say so in the descriptions? And don't worry about causing us extra work, go ahead and say so in the existing descriptions. It's one thing that your conversions are allowed here, but for you to continue to take credit for "making them" is really starting to steam me............ You're not doing anything, other than telling the program what you want it to convert. You put no extra work into the images. It's an insult to real skinners IMHO..... (go ahead and put me on that list)
bakerstreet
Reply #63 Monday, December 1, 2003 12:24 PM
Reply #63 Monday, December 1, 2003 12:24 PM
Kona: np. Don't overlook the links I posted. I think that this community really, really needs a few more talented in-house iconists. As of now the norm is to go out and find commercial icons and glass them over of jazz them up in some way or other. If I had a dime for every time someone has ripped off Susan Kare http://www.kare.com/index.html I'd just hire her to make my icons for me...
Making icons is an insane art really. Finding the right metaphor, making it recognizable when you only have limited colors and limited little dots, it is a a really cool, challenging thing. Granted, for games and such it would be re-inventing the wheel. Doesn't Object Dock extract icons for shortcuts? I need to look at it again.
anyway, no worries.
Making icons is an insane art really. Finding the right metaphor, making it recognizable when you only have limited colors and limited little dots, it is a a really cool, challenging thing. Granted, for games and such it would be re-inventing the wheel. Doesn't Object Dock extract icons for shortcuts? I need to look at it again.
anyway, no worries.
bakerstreet
Reply #64 Monday, December 1, 2003 12:29 PM
Reply #64 Monday, December 1, 2003 12:29 PM
P.S. I guess it does look like all I do is sit around on messageboards and troll. Most of the stuff I do is unrelated to skinning now, but I have skinned a teeny bit in my time: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/4052959/ 
Zodiaq~
Reply #65 Monday, December 1, 2003 2:55 PM
Reply #65 Monday, December 1, 2003 2:55 PM
Sorry Kona but I agree with BakerStreet 100% on this one 
kona0197
Reply #66 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:07 PM
I do put put extra work into the images. I crop. I sharpen. i cut. I put some filters on. I reshape. I polish. I test to make sure it works with OD.
IN MY LIBRARY NONE OF MY DESCRIPTIONS SAYS I MADE THE ICON. JUST SAYS ENJOY AND WHAT GAME IT IS FOR.
AND BTW, why don't you guys go pick on the other people here who do nothing more than I do with the icons? Such as the Final Fantasy Icon or the other red Alert Icons? They are nothing more than icons converted as well, but they are done by more accomplished and respected artists.
SO THEY GET NO GRIEF ABOUT IT. I DO.
AS I STATED IN MY ABOVE POST, I DO NOT MAKE THEM. JUST CONVERT THEM.
I see no reason to change each desciption to say I did not make them when no one else who converts icons dosen't have to list that detail.
Futhermore you all need to leave me alone. Enough is enough.
I do not care if anyone is mad at me.
Reply #66 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:07 PM
| It's one thing that your conversions are allowed here, but for you to continue to take credit for "making them" is really starting to steam me............ You're not doing anything, other than telling the program what you want it to convert. You put no extra work into the images. |
I do put put extra work into the images. I crop. I sharpen. i cut. I put some filters on. I reshape. I polish. I test to make sure it works with OD.
IN MY LIBRARY NONE OF MY DESCRIPTIONS SAYS I MADE THE ICON. JUST SAYS ENJOY AND WHAT GAME IT IS FOR.
AND BTW, why don't you guys go pick on the other people here who do nothing more than I do with the icons? Such as the Final Fantasy Icon or the other red Alert Icons? They are nothing more than icons converted as well, but they are done by more accomplished and respected artists.
SO THEY GET NO GRIEF ABOUT IT. I DO.
AS I STATED IN MY ABOVE POST, I DO NOT MAKE THEM. JUST CONVERT THEM.
I see no reason to change each desciption to say I did not make them when no one else who converts icons dosen't have to list that detail.
Futhermore you all need to leave me alone. Enough is enough.
I do not care if anyone is mad at me.
Zodiaq~
Reply #67 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:11 PM
Reply #67 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:11 PM
Kona...You should put a 'Disclaimer' in the comments section on each of your Icons.
So I am assuming,(being that these .pngs are acceptable) that if I want to I can make a full blown theme like a Windowblind, Icons, Wall and Cursor of, let's say...UTK3, Warcraft3, Worms3d etc. without any types of permission?
I've always wanted to but thought the 'permission' thingy might be a little difficult
So I am assuming,(being that these .pngs are acceptable) that if I want to I can make a full blown theme like a Windowblind, Icons, Wall and Cursor of, let's say...UTK3, Warcraft3, Worms3d etc. without any types of permission?
I've always wanted to but thought the 'permission' thingy might be a little difficult
kona0197
Reply #68 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:12 PM
Reply #68 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:12 PM
Example:
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?searchtext=red+alert+2&sort=updatedate&order=Descending&library=29
The other 2 RA2 icons are direct conversions of the program icon. Yet the artist gets no grief, and they did exactly what I did.
Why am I being singled out?
I have already said that I DID not make them, I just conveted them.
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https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?searchtext=red+alert+2&sort=updatedate&order=Descending&library=29
The other 2 RA2 icons are direct conversions of the program icon. Yet the artist gets no grief, and they did exactly what I did.
Why am I being singled out?
I have already said that I DID not make them, I just conveted them.
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Zodiaq~
Reply #69 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:14 PM
Reply #69 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:14 PM
Kona...I don't think you are being singled out...Most authors don't broadcast on the message board and say 'Look what I made'
CerebroJD
Reply #70 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:18 PM
Reply #70 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:18 PM
If you're expanding outside of games, a Windows Media Player one would be good. Good work dude!
Good work dude!
kona0197
Reply #71 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:18 PM
Reply #71 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:18 PM
well I am not a author. I am not a skinner. I am not a artist. I am not even a good computer user.
I didn't mean to say "look what I made"
Maybe i should have said "Look what i converted"
Anyways, the library is coming down today. To much grief and hassle for me.
I didn't mean to say "look what I made"
Maybe i should have said "Look what i converted"
Anyways, the library is coming down today. To much grief and hassle for me.
kona0197
Reply #72 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:19 PM
no thanks. I'm done. This thread has made me stop. To many people pissed off. To much grief.
Reply #72 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:19 PM
| If you're expanding outside of games, a Windows Media Player one would be good. Good work dude! |
no thanks. I'm done. This thread has made me stop. To many people pissed off. To much grief.
AndreasV
Reply #73 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:25 PM
"
And what have you got at the end of the day
What have you got to take away
A bottle of whiskey and a new set of lies
Blinds on the window and a pain behind the eyes" (somehow, this thread reminds me of that song)
Reply #73 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:25 PM
"
And what have you got at the end of the day
What have you got to take away
A bottle of whiskey and a new set of lies
Blinds on the window and a pain behind the eyes" (somehow, this thread reminds me of that song)
bakerstreet
Reply #74 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:28 PM
Reply #74 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:28 PM
Kona: As for 'why me', there is a difference between simple uploads and open, unchallenged praise on the messageboard. Count how many times you refer to these images as your work or your icons, and you'll understand the attention. 'Leaving you alone' will directly correspond to how much confusion there is about the provenance of your 'work'.
Anyway, Go back and read #63 and #64. I'm not giving you grief anymore, only urging you to branch out and try making your own icons.
Anyway, Go back and read #63 and #64. I'm not giving you grief anymore, only urging you to branch out and try making your own icons.
kona0197
Reply #75 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:30 PM
will not happen. I have lost al intrest in making anything. I am currently deleting my library.
If this is what I get with converted icons, Lord forbib I make a WB or a wall.
Reply #75 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:30 PM
| Anyway, Go back and read #63 and #64. I'm not giving you grief anymore, only urging you to branch out and try making your own icons. |
will not happen. I have lost al intrest in making anything. I am currently deleting my library.
If this is what I get with converted icons, Lord forbib I make a WB or a wall.
Zodiaq~
Reply #76 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:31 PM
Reply #76 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:31 PM
I don't think so many people are pissed off, it's more of being annoyed, that you have said 'My Skins' and 'My Icons'.
It takes less than 30 seconds to convert an .ico to a .png...Can't really call that skinning.
No need to quit just add the disclaimer...If WC say's it's ok to post, then I guess it's ok
It takes less than 30 seconds to convert an .ico to a .png...Can't really call that skinning.
No need to quit just add the disclaimer...If WC say's it's ok to post, then I guess it's ok
kona0197
Reply #77 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:35 PM
what kind of disclaimer: how should I word it?
Reply #77 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:35 PM
| No need to quit just add the disclaimer...If WC say's it's ok to post, then I guess it's ok |
what kind of disclaimer: how should I word it?
AndreasV
Reply #78 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:37 PM
Reply #78 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:37 PM
something like:
I didn't make these icons, but I converted them for you from ICO-format to PNG-format. Just to make you happy.
When I refer to "my icons" or "my work" I mean "the icons that I have converted for you". Enjoy.
I didn't make these icons, but I converted them for you from ICO-format to PNG-format. Just to make you happy.
When I refer to "my icons" or "my work" I mean "the icons that I have converted for you". Enjoy.
Zodiaq~
Reply #79 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:38 PM
Reply #79 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:38 PM
Basically like you had said in one of the earlier post's:
'I take no credit in making these icons, I simply converted them from .ico format to .png format for your enjoyment with Object Dock'
or whatever
'I take no credit in making these icons, I simply converted them from .ico format to .png format for your enjoyment with Object Dock'
or whatever
kona0197
Reply #80 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:45 PM
Reply #80 Monday, December 1, 2003 3:45 PM
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Reply #61 Monday, December 1, 2003 8:55 AM