Thanks Stardock
Saturday, November 22, 2003 by grayhaze | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
In light of yet another bout of anti-Stardock/WinCust abuse elsewhere online, I thought I'd spend a few moments giving my opinion on both the company and the people who have a hand in the skinning community.
I can't remember when I first discovered Stardock, but it was almost certainly through finding and playing with WindowBlinds some years ago. Since that time, I have always considered them to be a professional and friendly bunch of people who are always willing to listen to feedback and help out when things don't go quite to plan with their software.
I've never had cause to criticise them or to deny them the right to charge for their products, which are simply worth every penny of the money they ask for. I find those people who complain about the fact that they don't give everything away for free to be not only offensive, but downright stupid. To expect that a company put in the amount of time and effort that a project like Object Desktop requires, and then give the product away for free is not only absurd but unbelievably naive. We live in a world where money is a part of everything, and had Stardock not charged for their products, we would still be sitting here using an ancient version of WindowBlinds which did nothing more than change the titlebar buttons on a window. Stardock have pushed the boundaries of skinning through their research and development, and have in turn helped many other non-Stardock products evolve and prosper.
In the time that I've known him, I've always thought of Brad (Frogboy) as a level-headed intelligent person who, while occasionally speaking his mind a little too much, can always be expected to tell things the way they are and stick up for what's right in the skinning world. He'll defend his company and his products to death, but then wouldn't we all stick up for our 'children' if someone said a bad word against them?
As for the rest of the staff at Stardock, and in turn WinCustomize, over the past couple of years I have had the pleasure of getting to know several individuals pretty well. I've had praise and encouragment from people I never even expected to hear from, and the friendly comments still come even to this day. I've also made a lot of friends through this site, spurred on by the constant challenges of an ever-evolving platform for skinning which constantly manages to impress me, and without their help and ideas I probably never would have even finished my first skin.
So let's just give a moment to thank everyone at Stardock, and all the admins and moderators here at WinCustomize, for making our computer time that little bit more pleasurable. Thanks guys!
(And here endeth the brown-nosing for the day)
I can't remember when I first discovered Stardock, but it was almost certainly through finding and playing with WindowBlinds some years ago. Since that time, I have always considered them to be a professional and friendly bunch of people who are always willing to listen to feedback and help out when things don't go quite to plan with their software.
I've never had cause to criticise them or to deny them the right to charge for their products, which are simply worth every penny of the money they ask for. I find those people who complain about the fact that they don't give everything away for free to be not only offensive, but downright stupid. To expect that a company put in the amount of time and effort that a project like Object Desktop requires, and then give the product away for free is not only absurd but unbelievably naive. We live in a world where money is a part of everything, and had Stardock not charged for their products, we would still be sitting here using an ancient version of WindowBlinds which did nothing more than change the titlebar buttons on a window. Stardock have pushed the boundaries of skinning through their research and development, and have in turn helped many other non-Stardock products evolve and prosper.
In the time that I've known him, I've always thought of Brad (Frogboy) as a level-headed intelligent person who, while occasionally speaking his mind a little too much, can always be expected to tell things the way they are and stick up for what's right in the skinning world. He'll defend his company and his products to death, but then wouldn't we all stick up for our 'children' if someone said a bad word against them?
As for the rest of the staff at Stardock, and in turn WinCustomize, over the past couple of years I have had the pleasure of getting to know several individuals pretty well. I've had praise and encouragment from people I never even expected to hear from, and the friendly comments still come even to this day. I've also made a lot of friends through this site, spurred on by the constant challenges of an ever-evolving platform for skinning which constantly manages to impress me, and without their help and ideas I probably never would have even finished my first skin.
So let's just give a moment to thank everyone at Stardock, and all the admins and moderators here at WinCustomize, for making our computer time that little bit more pleasurable. Thanks guys!
(And here endeth the brown-nosing for the day)
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neophil78
Reply #22 Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:51 PM
Reply #22 Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:51 PM
Does someone needs some more polish on shoes ? 
feline, there's a thought.
Jafo
Reply #24 Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:44 PM
Reply #24 Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:44 PM
Yes...wearing mine at the moment, too....AND it's the right colour.....'grey'....
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #25 Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:46 PM
Reply #25 Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:46 PM
Trust feline to think of something like that! Naughty kitty 
Keila
Reply #27 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:44 PM
Reply #27 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:44 PM
Well, I started with Honeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
And then explained my deserving to wear it and then through in feline's suggestion and because of I will want a white one I would stay away from red sauces. He told me not to lye and laughed. That meant yes.
Keila has a big problem with white shirts and red sauce.
Every time I make and eat something with a red sauce I am also wearing a white shirt. Every darn time it ends up on the shirt and refuses to wash out.
>
I do have 1 very nice white shirt without any stains. I will be honest and say that's only because I will change that shirt if a red sauce is within a mile of me. You know just to keep me honest and all.
I think I will order my new white T-shirt tomorrow.
I hope it comes with a warning. "Do not let this shirt come in contact with red sauce"
Found a spelling error.
[Message Edited]
And then explained my deserving to wear it and then through in feline's suggestion and because of I will want a white one I would stay away from red sauces. He told me not to lye and laughed. That meant yes.
Keila has a big problem with white shirts and red sauce.
Every time I make and eat something with a red sauce I am also wearing a white shirt. Every darn time it ends up on the shirt and refuses to wash out.
> I do have 1 very nice white shirt without any stains. I will be honest and say that's only because I will change that shirt if a red sauce is within a mile of me.
You know just to keep me honest and all.I think I will order my new white T-shirt tomorrow.
I hope it comes with a warning. "Do not let this shirt come in contact with red sauce"
Found a spelling error.
[Message Edited]
feline
Reply #28 Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:04 PM
Reply #28 Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:04 PM
you could always take off the t-shirt before eating
of course, if you are employing my suggestion...
feline *innocent expression number 52*
of course, if you are employing my suggestion...
feline *innocent expression number 52*
themorphium
Reply #30 Monday, November 24, 2003 1:43 PM
Reply #30 Monday, November 24, 2003 1:43 PM
I am always too late. Always. When I see a new thread, all is already said. Stupid time.
Anyway,
Stardock rules
Anyway,
Stardock rules
craeonics
Reply #31 Monday, November 24, 2003 2:21 PM
Reply #31 Monday, November 24, 2003 2:21 PM
Ewwwww, the ickyness factor in this thread is waaay beyond tolerable levels.
craeonics goes hide in the basement and take a shower to wash off all the goo
craeonics goes hide in the basement and take a shower to wash off all the goo
RadialFX
Reply #32 Monday, November 24, 2003 3:17 PM
Reply #32 Monday, November 24, 2003 3:17 PM
Thanks Grayhaze for starting this thread. Although, I'll be a day late for my own funeral it never feels too late here at WC. I've been using Wblinds since 1.x and a follower ever since. Those that aren't aware of where it was then and where it is now have a hard time understanding the significance of Brad's vision and all those around him. Let's face it, the ONLY thing I'm aware of before WindowBlinds were "Themes". These themes were nothing more than a preset color scheme a wallpaper and in some cases sounds. I think for the impact that Stardock has had on our PC's is relative to the impact the PC had on the home and Windows had to the PC. It's truly opened up a whole new world for PC users.
Think about the impact it's had on other products on the market. Almost every kind of Graphics software company, whether its Adobe, Core, Jasc, etc... or one of the products that supplement or Plug-in to them. I can guarantee you ALL of those companies are "Stardock Aware".
I stand behind (way behind....,) everyone taking the time to post their support for Brad and Stardock and everything he/they have done. I can promise you one thing for sure. To all those people that are jealous of Brad/Stardocks success... if you find a chopping block out there big enough to lay your head on.....would you? Taking the risk is a little too scary for most mere mortals.
Just wanted to add my 2 cents.
craeonics heads back to the shower!
Think about the impact it's had on other products on the market. Almost every kind of Graphics software company, whether its Adobe, Core, Jasc, etc... or one of the products that supplement or Plug-in to them. I can guarantee you ALL of those companies are "Stardock Aware".
I stand behind (way behind....,
) everyone taking the time to post their support for Brad and Stardock and everything he/they have done. I can promise you one thing for sure. To all those people that are jealous of Brad/Stardocks success... if you find a chopping block out there big enough to lay your head on.....would you? Taking the risk is a little too scary for most mere mortals.Just wanted to add my 2 cents.
craeonics heads back to the shower!
RadialFX
Reply #33 Monday, November 24, 2003 3:19 PM
Reply #33 Monday, November 24, 2003 3:19 PM
Oh yes, one more thing. I wonder where TGT Soft got the idea for visual styles....Hmmmm let's see now.... WAS IT SATAN! (Church Lady)
(Church Lady)
BoXXi
Reply #34 Monday, November 24, 2003 8:15 PM
Reply #34 Monday, November 24, 2003 8:15 PM
I wouldn't be skinning if it wasn't for Stardock and all the people there..........Nuff said !! 
IPlural
Reply #35 Monday, November 24, 2003 8:27 PM
Reply #35 Monday, November 24, 2003 8:27 PM
I am actually working on finishing up my first skin
looks liek a one too
but, yeah, you(s) peoples and Stardock in general is what has brought me out of my creative shell for the msot part.
looks liek a one too
but, yeah, you(s) peoples and Stardock in general is what has brought me out of my creative shell for the msot part.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #36 Monday, November 24, 2003 9:00 PM
Reply #36 Monday, November 24, 2003 9:00 PM
'liek' msot' ???
You must have been on the same stuff as me...
You must have been on the same stuff as me...
IPlural
Reply #37 Monday, November 24, 2003 10:12 PM
Reply #37 Monday, November 24, 2003 10:12 PM
fingers are revolting, don't work so well either
seriously though, I cut the top of my right hand in half in two places, and the tendons are short, they've stretched out some but at times it causes my fingers to lock up and pause instead of working the way they are supposed.
One of the reasons drawing and painting takes me so much longer now, is my hand cramps up and hurts. So it isn't something I can do all the time.
but, now that you mention it, how about sharing!
seriously though, I cut the top of my right hand in half in two places, and the tendons are short, they've stretched out some but at times it causes my fingers to lock up and pause instead of working the way they are supposed.
One of the reasons drawing and painting takes me so much longer now, is my hand cramps up and hurts. So it isn't something I can do all the time.
but, now that you mention it, how about sharing!
Jafo
Reply #38 Monday, November 24, 2003 10:36 PM
Reply #38 Monday, November 24, 2003 10:36 PM
lPlural....I've heard all the excuses.....just admit it....you can't spell fer nuts.....
CerebroJD
Reply #39 Monday, November 24, 2003 10:38 PM
Reply #39 Monday, November 24, 2003 10:38 PM
Wow. This is an awesome thread!
I love stardock!!
I love WinC!!
I love skinning!!
Isn't it great how everything works out like that?
I love stardock!!
I love WinC!!
I love skinning!!
Isn't it great how everything works out like that?
Sugaree
Reply #40 Monday, November 24, 2003 11:10 PM
Reply #40 Monday, November 24, 2003 11:10 PM
John, why would you cut the top of your hand in two places? Oooouch! 
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Reply #21 Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:33 PM
you could suggest that you would look really good wearing (only) the wincustomize T-shirt