Micheal Jackson..Your thoughts?
Wednesday, November 19, 2003 by digital_k | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Well I am reading on CNN that MJ will be turning himself in tomorow morning(Thursday). I have a relative who's a Sheriff's Deputy and he tells me the raid had to be done because of very substantial evidence,no guessing games at all. Maybe he is guilty, maybe he was the last time. Interesting to see how it will play out. What do you think?
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kona0197
Reply #42 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:41 AM
I just think Scooby wants my Village Idiot tittle.
Reply #42 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:41 AM
| Scooby: I agree with kona, you really haven't been around long enough to judge him. I think 'Few times Kona is 100% correct' is way on the optimistic side. The competition seems to be helping, though. You guys seem to be neck-and-neck so far, keep up the good work. |
I just think Scooby wants my Village Idiot tittle.
ScoobyWRX STi 04
Reply #43 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:42 AM
Reply #43 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:42 AM
Liberals tend to lack the judgement of common sense...
and with Kona that was just from my readings in past forums that I saw he posted in... sall good
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and with Kona that was just from my readings in past forums that I saw he posted in... sall good
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bakerstreet
Reply #44 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:42 AM
Reply #44 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:42 AM
IPlural: Aw... that edit on #37 was a damn shame, I am still laughing.
Scooby: ( "IP are you a liberal?" ) Is your name richard?
I'm solidly conservative and I think IPlural and I could form a bi-partisan consensus in terms of your overall vibe.
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Scooby: ( "IP are you a liberal?" ) Is your name richard?
I'm solidly conservative and I think IPlural and I could form a bi-partisan consensus in terms of your overall vibe.
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Tech-Cat
Reply #45 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:43 AM
The same lawyers that were going after Microsoft also tried to help Al Gore steal the 2000 election.
Reply #45 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:43 AM
| Anti trust suit that he got out of. They should have broken microsoft up. |
The same lawyers that were going after Microsoft also tried to help Al Gore steal the 2000 election.
kona0197
Reply #46 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:43 AM
Reply #46 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:43 AM
I think Scobby's name is UZEE! Sure acts like him.
IPlural
Reply #48 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:50 AM
it is *judgment* BTW
No that has got to be the most moronic attempt to put people into a BOX that I have come across in a long time.
Actually I'm registered Independent if you must know. I figure there are as many liars and thief's in both parties and they all can make stump stupid assumptions and judgments.
Some good and some bad come from both sides, only there is one niggling fact, they both do the same damn thing but just wrap it up in different wrapping paper...
A Turd dipped in Rose water might smell nice but it is still a Turd...
Same goes for Politicians for the most part and all Political Parites...
But then again this isn't a Political thread...
Reply #48 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:50 AM
| Liberals tend to lack the judgement of common sense... |
it is *judgment* BTW
No that has got to be the most moronic attempt to put people into a BOX that I have come across in a long time.
Actually I'm registered Independent if you must know. I figure there are as many liars and thief's in both parties and they all can make stump stupid assumptions and judgments.
Some good and some bad come from both sides, only there is one niggling fact, they both do the same damn thing but just wrap it up in different wrapping paper...
A Turd dipped in Rose water might smell nice but it is still a Turd...
Same goes for Politicians for the most part and all Political Parites...
But then again this isn't a Political thread...
bussie
Reply #51 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:56 AM
Reply #51 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:56 AM
I think that first we must wait for the evidence before we say MJ is guilty.
Some people here already say he is quilty. I think no one is quilty until it is proven that someone is quilty.
Or is it true like Jay-z says: quilty until proven innocent
And if MJ is quilty, the of course he must go to jail, no doubt about it, but as you know in America everything is possible, so who knows now already what is going to happen......
Some people here already say he is quilty. I think no one is quilty until it is proven that someone is quilty.
Or is it true like Jay-z says: quilty until proven innocent
And if MJ is quilty, the of course he must go to jail, no doubt about it, but as you know in America everything is possible, so who knows now already what is going to happen......
Tech-Cat
Reply #52 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:56 AM
Reply #52 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:56 AM
I don't see what is wrong with waiting until all the proof comes out before drawing a conclusion. If I got accused of a crime I did not commit, I sure would not want scooby in the jury since he would probably already convict me without proof.
bakerstreet
Reply #54 Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:06 AM
Reply #54 Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:06 AM
Tech Cat: I think people can be objective and have opinions. The recent Robert Durst case ( http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=3799104 ) is a good example of that, I think. If you can admit to shooting someone, cutting them up, and dumping them in a lake, and STILL not be convicted of murder, it goes a long way toward proving that people can be objective in the face of highly prejudicial concepts.
joetheblow
Reply #55 Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:09 AM
Reply #55 Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:09 AM
For me its a wait and see. I have to admit I would think he would leave the kids alone and change his practices.
IPlural
Reply #56 Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:17 AM
Reply #56 Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:17 AM
I have a friend, well he was my brothers best friend actually...
Anyway, he was living with his wife, at the time before they were married. She has a duaghter who was 4 at the time. Dan and Amber used to watch Wrestling every Saterday and then Kungfu theater after that. Then they would play fight and she would beat him up. Well one Saterday after watching Kungfu theater she slapped him and ran away giggling, I was sitting in the chair across the room and was laughing my butt off. As she ran away Dan who is 6' 8" tall snapped his foot out acting like he was going to kick her and was going to brush her butt with his toes. Well she took five quick steps (two for an adult) and stopped dead in her tracks, Dans size 16 foot connected with her butt and she flew a good five feet onto the wood floor. He was picking her up right after she landed he came off the couch so fast. It hurt, without a doubt and if left one hell of a nasty bruise on her butt and thigh.
Well after the crying was over and she was ok, Michell was done freaking out we all took off to get Ice Cream cones...
That Monday she was at day care and she was changing into her bathing suit and the lady who took care of her age group noticed the brusies and asked her what happened?
Amber didn't want to eat her breakfest this morning and Dan made her choose between eating what her mom had cooked for her, or no TV that night.
So after this lady asked her, Amber tells her " Dan kicked me " and the lady took her to the Minister and she asked again, after showing him the bruise "Dan kicked me" and the started asking all these leading questions and someone mentioned that Dan was in trouble wher eshe could hear it. So being mad at Dan she just went alone with them leading her along with questions like "Dan hits you and things to punish you doesn't he?" "yes" "Dose Dan drink?" "yes" "when he drinks Dan punish you more doesn't he?" "yes" next thing you know they have the Cops there and they take her to the station. Call up her mom and have her come down and interview her, then she calls the shop who calls the customer where we were working that day and tell him he needs to get to the station in the next two hours or they would have a warrent for his arrest put out. So we wrap it up and I get him there in time and I am told that it is going to be a long time so I should probably leave.
Well, Amber and her mom needed a ride so I went to pick them up when Michell called only for her to be told that Child Services would be keeping her for the next few days and to go home and they would contact her the next day. In the end, the FBI was called in, the Cops thought that Amber was lying to protect Dan when she finally told them exactly what happened and they would listen to her. Her mother was not allowed near her until that point and Dan had been in Jail for five days.
So it all comes out he did nothing against the law, it was not abuse, but in the mean time his name has been registered in some data base because he was investigated and it couldn't be removed without a court order and he would have to get a laywer to do this...
So... yeah, I'll wait until the proof is there before I'll buy into the lynch mob mentality...
Anyway, he was living with his wife, at the time before they were married. She has a duaghter who was 4 at the time. Dan and Amber used to watch Wrestling every Saterday and then Kungfu theater after that. Then they would play fight and she would beat him up. Well one Saterday after watching Kungfu theater she slapped him and ran away giggling, I was sitting in the chair across the room and was laughing my butt off. As she ran away Dan who is 6' 8" tall snapped his foot out acting like he was going to kick her and was going to brush her butt with his toes. Well she took five quick steps (two for an adult) and stopped dead in her tracks, Dans size 16 foot connected with her butt and she flew a good five feet onto the wood floor. He was picking her up right after she landed he came off the couch so fast. It hurt, without a doubt and if left one hell of a nasty bruise on her butt and thigh.
Well after the crying was over and she was ok, Michell was done freaking out we all took off to get Ice Cream cones...
That Monday she was at day care and she was changing into her bathing suit and the lady who took care of her age group noticed the brusies and asked her what happened?
Amber didn't want to eat her breakfest this morning and Dan made her choose between eating what her mom had cooked for her, or no TV that night.
So after this lady asked her, Amber tells her " Dan kicked me " and the lady took her to the Minister and she asked again, after showing him the bruise "Dan kicked me" and the started asking all these leading questions and someone mentioned that Dan was in trouble wher eshe could hear it. So being mad at Dan she just went alone with them leading her along with questions like "Dan hits you and things to punish you doesn't he?" "yes" "Dose Dan drink?" "yes" "when he drinks Dan punish you more doesn't he?" "yes" next thing you know they have the Cops there and they take her to the station. Call up her mom and have her come down and interview her, then she calls the shop who calls the customer where we were working that day and tell him he needs to get to the station in the next two hours or they would have a warrent for his arrest put out. So we wrap it up and I get him there in time and I am told that it is going to be a long time so I should probably leave.
Well, Amber and her mom needed a ride so I went to pick them up when Michell called only for her to be told that Child Services would be keeping her for the next few days and to go home and they would contact her the next day. In the end, the FBI was called in, the Cops thought that Amber was lying to protect Dan when she finally told them exactly what happened and they would listen to her. Her mother was not allowed near her until that point and Dan had been in Jail for five days.
So it all comes out he did nothing against the law, it was not abuse, but in the mean time his name has been registered in some data base because he was investigated and it couldn't be removed without a court order and he would have to get a laywer to do this...
So... yeah, I'll wait until the proof is there before I'll buy into the lynch mob mentality...
Old_Crab
Reply #57 Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:22 AM
Reply #57 Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:22 AM
Hmmmmmmmm. Wait for the trial and verdict. I personally don't like the man. Child. Whatever. However, I will not make a judgement of anyone, in this type of circumstance, until after a fair and impartial hearing. Then, we can hang him. >
Styl-X Design
Reply #58 Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:45 AM
Reply #58 Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:45 AM
#56 we live in a strange world dont we?
I am not sure what to think about MJ.
Most geniouse people are sick people too, its hard to seperate them...
I am not sure what to think about MJ.
Most geniouse people are sick people too, its hard to seperate them...
EventHorizon
Reply #59 Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:17 AM
Reply #59 Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:17 AM
Scooby, Heres something Ive learned...
You'll learn more if you "listen" and read what other ppl say (especially adults) than you will if you sit around posting 'me too.'
You'll learn more if you "listen" and read what other ppl say (especially adults) than you will if you sit around posting 'me too.'
XX
Reply #60 Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:30 AM
Reply #60 Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:30 AM
Hmm gulity before proven innocent? 
I don't know what is going on, other than the fact that MJ is quite odd, and people blamed him for molesing children.
Well. I hope this time it will prove either that's true or not this time.
Hmmm I noticed that he don't really change the look. I remember being 12 or thereabouts and he looked the same as now.
I don't know what is going on, other than the fact that MJ is quite odd, and people blamed him for molesing children.
Well. I hope this time it will prove either that's true or not this time.
Hmmm I noticed that he don't really change the look. I remember being 12 or thereabouts and he looked the same as now.
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Reply #41 Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:40 AM
MS is far from being fair or lawful in its business pratices...
kona, nothing is going to get between friendship, it isn't something I let happen freely...
It is also something I do not give up on either...
Hell, I do not take much personally, and even if I do I do not let it cloud my thoughts, feelings or opinions about a person I consider a friend... Difference of opinion, even out right arguing isn't a life time things, it's of the moment and kinda here and gone as it happens
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