Microsoft’s Vision for Windows 12 Explains Windows 11

Big changes ahead for Windows

Tuesday, October 18, 2022 by BradSams | Discussion: Software Blog

This past week, Microsoft accidentally shared a mockup of their vision for Windows 12 at their Ignite conference. The mockup, which has the name Windows 11 NV, or Next Valley, is authentic and is likely the direction Microsoft is heading with its OS.

There are three notable items that are worth paying attention to:

  • Widgets are now in the top left corner
  • System tray is in the top right corner
  • Taskbar is “floating” rather than sitting at the bottom of the screen

While we don’t know if all of these features will make their way into Windows 12 (or whatever they are going to call it), it does explain some of the decisions behind Windows 11.

With Windows 11, Microsoft removed the ability to ungroup icons on the taskbar and also defaults to a center-aligned Start menu. Behind the scenes, Microsoft has already said that they rebuilt the taskbar. We also know that the system tray has now been rebuilt and of course, the widgets were rebuilt for Windows 11, too.

I believe that Microsoft has done this is to train the user for the next big transition. To go from Windows 10 to "Windows 12" is a big leap, but with Windows 11, this makes the transition a bit softer. With Microsoft rebuilding much of the interface from scratch with Windows 11, this plays into the narrative that Windows 12 will be another significant change for the OS.

If Microsoft does go this route, and the taskbar becomes more of a dock, it makes sense why the company no longer allows you to ungroup open windows or move the taskbar to the top of the display (both features can be re-enabled with Start11). Out of context, these two changes appear to be a significant regression, and even with the Windows 12 mockup showing the direction, it remains hard to justify why they would remove features that have defined Windows for decades. 

While Microsoft is not sharing if this is truly the direction that they will take with Windows 12, there is a lot of evidence to support that this is where they are looking to take the OS. There are still many questions outstanding about if the company will allow for a “classic” OS layout to be re-enabled, but at this point, considering that they were willing to cut things out of Windows 11, I would think that’s not likely.

It's a bit too early to talk about a Start12, but know that once Microsoft does finally share its vision, and more importantly a build of the next major release, Stardock will be looking to do what we do best and make Windows more personal and productive.

PhoenixRising1
Reply #1 Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:07 PM

I'd imagine you'll get a lot of requests to put the system tray back onto the taskbar.   I don't mind the floating taskbar though.

Narusegawa Naru
Reply #2 Wednesday, October 19, 2022 8:26 PM

This is just more continuation of MSFT's push to convert windows into a tablet OS. Once upon a time the OS was smart enough to detect what type of device it was on and Taylor the UI to that. This is also why you see less and less customization capabilities in windows. It basically removes the P from "PC". 

I've been a windows dev for several decades now. I'm pretty sure I won't be before long. I made my money and I'm pretty good in that area so I don't think I'll continue with it.

The biggest problem with Windows is the lack of customization. Each new build makes it worse. 

Victechnical
Reply #3 Friday, October 21, 2022 8:42 AM

"While Microsoft is not sharing if this is truly the direction that they will take with Windows 12, there is a lot of evidence to support that this is where they are looking to take the OS"

The question is why?  On what basis are they making these design choices?  Long ago when they created the start menu/taskbar for Windows 95 they had users test drive it IIRC.  They got feedback from actual users about what worked and didn't work and I believe that's why the UI has been so successful and lasted all these years.  Is Microsoft getting feedback now about Windows 11?  Do they perceive a need that is not being met adequately by Windows 10 that makes the changes necessary?  I don't think so.

Robert84MK
Reply #4 Friday, October 21, 2022 10:54 AM

O wow another Windows Mac Hybrid ? Last Windows in normal GUI is Windows 7 and 10.

Ralph598
Reply #5 Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:31 PM

They are pushing people to adopt Linux, I do not like there changes and eventually I will switch my main machine to be a Linux OS machine.

LightStar
Reply #6 Sunday, October 23, 2022 7:42 AM

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID Microsoft!

Dcrew57
Reply #7 Tuesday, October 25, 2022 2:54 AM

I like our user interface as is on W10. W7 was even better. They go and change everything people will be lost.

raclark
Reply #8 Monday, October 31, 2022 11:33 AM

I kind of like it

Robert84MK
Reply #9 Thursday, November 3, 2022 2:15 PM

Dcrew57

W7 was even better.

 

Well Windows 7 is Vista SP3 and Vista Beta 1 (not RTM) is last Windows and Bill Gates.

Robert84MK
Reply #10 Thursday, November 3, 2022 2:19 PM

raclark

I kind of like it

And you like MacShitOS ? If Microsoft will slow add MacOS GUI to Windows them i will migrate to Linux for normal work and Windows only for games or Linux for work and XBox for games. I hate this new GUI.

leorocca1233031
Reply #11 Thursday, November 10, 2022 1:40 PM

Robert84MK


Quoting raclark,

I kind of like it



And you like MacShitOS ? If Microsoft will slow add MacOS GUI to Windows them i will migrate to Linux for normal work and Windows only for games or Linux for work and XBox for games. I hate this new GUI.

Well, I think I kind of like it too, I mean I don't like Apple stuff, but this UI looks good, even some Linux desktops have a similar experience of this design, this is my personal opinion, if you don't like it is ok, it's still a concept by the way 

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