Would You Like To Try Win 11 Regardless of What Microsoft Tells You

Saturday, June 18, 2022 by naroon1 | Discussion: Windows Discussion

We have seen lot of articles in the both the forum and on the Net about Microsoft Doing Things We Do Not Agree with, these include.

Hardware Requirements For Windows 11 (Decent Computers Running Win 10 Being Told NO By MS )

Needing A MS Account To Complete Install Of Win 11 22H2  etc..  etc...

If you think your current Computer is good enough to Run Win 10 with no issues, Then it should Run Win 11 . This little Tutorial allows all who think there PC is not ready for the Scrap Heap, to install Win 11 and test it out long before those Hardware Requirements are actually needed.

What you will need.

Rufus 3.16  (not checked Later editions)

USB Storage Pen Drive 

ISO of Windows 11.

Fire up Rufus with the usb pen drive plugged in.

Select your ISO of Win 11

Click Image Option and Select Extended Windows (This option Patches the installation so NO need for all the MS Requirements, Tpm, CPU, Ram etc..)

Select Partition Scheme depending on your Motherboard Type (MBR For Me)

Click Start.

When it is finished you will have a Windows 11 OS on the Usb Pen Drive, that by passes the HW Regs set by MS, and you are ready to install Windows 11 and give it a Go. You can install over your existing OS allowing you to roll back if you ,have any issues, or like me, use a spare low size SSD which had a backup of my earlier Win 11 21H2.

When going through the installation stages, you come to the part MS wants you to continue using a MS Account. You have two choices, Home or Organization, choose the second , click other options and click join a Domain, then you should have a Local Account with Full Admin Control.

Later fixes released include this in the initial set up (No MS Account) but i found it misses too many steps during installation and you have to set up things like Region and Keyboard later.

As this is a Feature update and due to the fact i use Themes, it will un patch UXTheme Patcher (not a bad thing i hear some of you saying)so if you used this before and are installing over the top of a earlier edition or build, to use themes again, you will need to use UXTheme again.

That is it peeps, anyone thinking there PC is up to the job of using Win 11 because it ran Win 10 without issue, it is now well within your grasp.

 

Do not get me wrong, MS and the HW Requirements will come into there own at some future point, but that is still some future point and i am sure we will see it coming through online articles and scene publications, allowing you to choose and not MS, Enjoy.

Jafo
Reply #1 Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:00 PM

Thanks, naroon1.  Should help many to dip their toes into the horror that is the modern Microsoft...

naroon1
Reply #2 Sunday, June 19, 2022 6:32 AM


Thanks, naroon1.  Should help many to dip their toes into the horror that is the modern Microsoft...

Many thanks jafo.

I forgot to add  "Make sure all users take the correct steps to protect there Data as discussed in other topics. Then you should have all and any concerns previously talked about covered, Have fun.

Jafo
Reply #3 Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:39 AM

I went 'lateral thinking'...am going through the motions of setting up a VirtualBox for 11....that way it'll be a 'controlled'explosion...

 

naroon1
Reply #4 Sunday, June 19, 2022 10:55 AM


I went 'lateral thinking'...am going through the motions of setting up a VirtualBox for 11....that way it'll be a 'controlled'explosion...

 

Caution is always the way to go for peeps who are unsure. After using Win 11 22H2 on 1 SSD for a good 12 hours solid, doing all the usual daily things i do in a a full day, I only found one little bug, that concerned the changing the view in explorer Windows from list to Tiles, but that was sorted in a few minutes this morning by selecting the an alternative Command Ribbon in the competitors Start Menu replacement, then problem solved. So now both Win 11 SSDs are now fully updated to Win 11 Enterprise 22H2 Build 22621.105.

I did mention in another topic about having to re install my themes again, that on working with my second SSD proved to just be the Theme Patcher needing to be applied again.

 

Have fun. Some will like it , and using this method will give them something they thought they could not have without new Equipment, some will not like it but that is the world in balance, as in all things. At least now, we all have options about what to do, and how we do it.

naroon1
Reply #5 Saturday, June 25, 2022 10:54 AM

OK.

 

The next step is Rufus 3.19 Beta. This will now allow a user to NOT have to enter any MS account info to complete installation(so far this is only set if  an offline install is used, sure this will change at some later point). Also adding the option to skip all Data Request options, setting all answers to Do Not Allow or Refuse.

I have always said unpopular MS changes will be reversed as that is the way of the world, but never realised Rufus would cover most of the Bases. My set up for now running 2 SSDs for Win 10 and two SSDs for Win 11 22H2 is complete, so i can not go through the process just yet and report back, but as my installations went flawlessly using the Rufus method, i have no reason to doubt this next step.

What are the odds MS will try to take over Rufus, i am sure it must have come up on there Radar, and set there Masterplan of pushing new Equipment coinciding with 22H2 full release later this year. As in all things, if this method falls another will pop right up to take it's place , in fact there are several ways already of dealing with MS HW Requirements, MS Account needed etc...   Rufus has just put it all in a very easy to use Media Creation Tool.

Also starting to see more and more ReviOS editions of Windows 11 hitting the net, allowing users to close those Data stealing Backdoors and Performance issues  as default.

Performance

"

Windows is notoriously known for its less-than-ideal performance, especially when compared to its predecessors.

ReviOS attempts to speed up the system, by eliminating redundant tasks and services running in the background, without sacrificing on stability.

Better yet, framerate stability is greatly improved, meaning your FPS is less prone to fluctuation."

Privacy

"

Microsoft's Windows operating system is infamous for its privacy-intrusive behaviour towards consumers, which is why ReviOS takes the privacy aspect into serious account.

A plethora of telemetry backdoors have been terminated including, but is not limited to: UWP/AppX Apps, Windows Update and Cortana.

Data collection and reporting increase the system load, and as a bonus, that too is severely reduced, hereby promoting performance.

Stability

 

"Based on a multi-layered approach, securing retained and comprehensive stability.

Reinforcing performance and privacy by stripping out bloatware that halts the system, and cutting down on the amount of components - resulting in reduced OS size.

ReviOS attempts to enhance what can be enhanced, leaving the subjective things to the user. A reliable, yet flexible baseline to build upon.

Add, modify and extend to your heart's content."

So far i have NO man hours invested in any ReviOS Edition of Windows, so for now, i am just reporting, this may change in the near future, if it does, i will report any findings here as usual.

Jafo
Reply #6 Saturday, June 25, 2022 11:11 AM

naroon1

So far i have NO man hours invested in any ReviOS Edition of Windows, so for now, i am just reporting, this may change in the near future, if it does, i will report any findings here as usual.

I think I had something early from that crowd....eons ago that made XP behave ...but could be mistaken...

naroon1
Reply #7 Saturday, June 25, 2022 11:43 AM



Quoting naroon1,

So far i have NO man hours invested in any ReviOS Edition of Windows, so for now, i am just reporting, this may change in the near future, if it does, i will report any findings here as usual.



I think I had something early from that crowd....eons ago that made XP behave ...but could be mistaken...

You are not wrong Jafo, it has been around for a while, i was just trying to set up a USB Pen drive to test it out using the Beta of Rufus, and it gave me an error, but no worries betas can be tricky, i will work it out and report back. Old Laptop on standby (would never mess about with my main set up with something i am not familiar with, this included)

naroon1
Reply #8 Saturday, June 25, 2022 12:44 PM

OK.

 

Installed ReviOS Win 11 22H2 on the old i5 laptop, installed in minutes right to the finished product, this is not for me, as this is a stripped down edition of Windows, it looks like it is very specific to say Gamers, yes the processes running in my task manager has dropped to a third of what there was before, well it would as elements have been disabled. It does give you some ReviOS links on the desktop for Q&As, Discord and Forum. I discovered the Update section has been disabled and removed from the settings list. An OS that will not update in the normal way is a red flag, there forum does give some info on how to re enable Updates, which i did, but there forum says do not do this as you may as well be using a Stock Windows.

I am not saying this will not suit some users, who may want a dedicated Tweaked Gaming machine, yes it does run faster, with less going on in task manager, to someone who just want a Gamer, this may be for you as it works well on low spec machines. This is too specific for me who needs a full package for all the things i need to do.

I will not be putting in any more man hours on this, and it will be wiped as soon as. I am too old to need a Gamming PC, or an OS stripped down to achieve Faster Frames etc.. or more secure at the loss of other features, all of which i can achieve myself with a Stock Windows i can make just as secure myself.

That was a short lived experiment. But remember peeps, i am 1 opinion, and what suits me, may not be what suits you.

Jafo
Reply #9 Saturday, June 25, 2022 9:56 PM

naroon1 ...maybe [thinking out loud here]....you could ignore the lack of updating and run 0patch on it instead...let that handle potential weaknesses...as I am doing on 7 ...

 

naroon1
Reply #10 Sunday, June 26, 2022 1:42 PM


naroon1 ...maybe [thinking out loud here]....you could ignore the lack of updating and run 0patch on it instead...let that handle potential weaknesses...as I am doing on 7 ...

 

Hi Jafo, i would consider it, please pass over to me some info about Opatch, ReviOS is not for my everyday PC though, but more knowledge to have in the Mental Toolbox is always a plus.

RedneckDude
Reply #11 Sunday, June 26, 2022 8:14 PM


I went 'lateral thinking'...am going through the motions of setting up a VirtualBox for 11....that way it'll be a 'controlled'explosion...

 
HAhahaha...

RedneckDude
Reply #12 Sunday, June 26, 2022 8:15 PM

naroon1

There, their, they're....lol.

Don't be mad, I couldn't help myself...lol.  

 

Thanks for this tutorial, as Paul said, should prove helpful!

Jafo
Reply #13 Sunday, June 26, 2022 9:04 PM

A Peek at 0patch | Okta Security 

Not for the faint hearted...but that's from 6 years ago...when 0patch was in its early days.

I'll see if I can find a more recent 'review' that doesn't suggest doom and gloom....

Jafo
Reply #14 Sunday, June 26, 2022 9:17 PM

0patch Blog 

An example of what's done....shows a list of all the OS vers it's written for...

naroon1
Reply #15 Monday, June 27, 2022 9:15 AM


0patch Blog 

An example of what's done....shows a list of all the OS vers it's written for...

Thanks jafo, i will give it a look.

naroon1
Reply #16 Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:46 AM

RedneckDude

Thanks for this tutorial, as Paul said, should prove helpful!

You are more than welcome Red.

naroon1
Reply #17 Sunday, July 3, 2022 9:10 AM

OK.

 

Just an update. Rufus 3.19 is now a Final release.

 

There is no longer an Extended Edition in the Image drop down menu for removing Hardware Requirements. It is still there but in another way.

Run Rufus As Administrator

Load your Windows 11 in the normal way , with the setting you would normally use, set the image option to 

"Standard Windows Installation"

When you click start a new box will pop up (only works for Win 11 ISOs) with 4 options

Remove Requirements For Secure Boot and TPM

Remove Requirements for 4GB+ Ram and 64GB+ Disk

Remove Requirements For Online Microsoft Account

Disable Data Collection (Skip Privacy Questions)

Click any and all, and again you can use Win 11 on machines MS says you can not, all in one little neat package.

Always take the same precautions as ever about keeping Win 11 secure, ie protecting your Data.

 

Have fun.

 

EDIT.

 

As ever i always test out new releases, seems like edition 3.19 needs an update and should not be a final as of yet, had issues at 97%, would not write the fixes, gone back to 3.18 and that works as before, will report back as and when i have more info.

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