WindowBlinds 11 planning
Friday, December 25, 2020 by Frogboy | Discussion: WindowBlinds
We are putting together the schedule to make WindowBlinds 11.
Customization is a lot harder now than it used to be. Microsoft, for reasons unknown, has actively encouraged developers to take care of their own client and even non client (border, frame) painting rather than using standard Windows controls.
Microsoft's baffling decision to throw away trying to provide a standard set of in-app controls for developers and instead provide vague, often conflicting standards (cough, Fluent) has resulted in having less and less of the OS we can even touch.
Which is unfortunate because WindowBlinds, in theory, could actually give Windows users a consistent, OS-wide Fluent if apps weren't handling the drawing of their own UIs these days.
Still, with that in mind, there are things we can do such as skin the standard OS controls and then handle apps on a case-by-case basis. Keep in mind though, the more non-standard apps we have to handle, the harder it is for us to keep compatibility.
Earlier this year we released Curtains which doesn't even hook into the OS. This means it is 100% compatible. Skins, even the weirdest ones, won't break a given app. Of course, the price is that it doesn't skin nearly as much (no client area GUI controls like scrollbars, push buttons, radio buttons, etc.). It's done quite well. However, we know there are still plenty of people out there who would like to have more full control over how their Windows desktop looks.
That's where this thread comes in: What would you like to see in WindowBlinds 11?
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Reply #642 Monday, September 26, 2022 9:58 AM
I think in the WB topic that was locked, WB 11 will be a new stand alone product that we will have to Pay for, in a similar way to us paying for Start 10, then paying for Start 11 when that was released, not sure if it was BradSams who said it, but that was what was written.
Really need to get my hands on it now as i have New WBs waiting on its release to test how they migrate over to Win 11.
Reply #643 Monday, September 26, 2022 10:14 AM
As always, those who have an ObjectDesktop subscription will be the ones having access to the betas. If I'm not mistaken, that is the way it has always been. Without a subscription, going from WB10 to WB11 would be a paid upgrade.
If I'm wrong, someone correct me please.
Reply #645 Monday, September 26, 2022 11:00 AM
Really need to get my hands on it now as i have New WBs waiting on its release to test how they migrate over to Win 11.
You mean skins you have made or purchased?
Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Actually they are Commissions. I Have Hired one of our Master Skinners to create me some New Bespoke Windowblinds Using Themes as a source and Guide, they have been installed (so far 1, as another is still being created but will not be too much longer) on Win 10, but as Start 11 has some new features and WB 11 will too, i still need to see them in all there Glory on a Win 11 22H2 22622.521.
Edit Maybe you can answer the question about who gets the Beta of WB11, cheers.
Reply #646 Monday, September 26, 2022 11:51 AM
As You may see from my join date here, I have seen plenty WindowBlinds releases over time. 
I can only recommend to subscribe to Object Desktop to get all the goodies and betas.
Reply #647 Monday, September 26, 2022 11:58 AM
Must be a staff member/Moderator who can confirm who will and who will not get the Beta, do not really care who is right or wrong, but Clarity would be wonderful right now, Jafo or Doc, can you ask those in the know, and settle this please either way.
Reply #648 Monday, September 26, 2022 12:33 PM
Must be a staff member/Moderator who can confirm who will and who will not get the Beta, do not really care who is right or wrong, but Clarity would be wonderful right now, Jafo or Doc, can you ask those in the know, and settle this please either way.
Not confirmed but I would think that it would be available for users as part of Stardock's Object Desktop suite.
If you have an active Object Desktop account it should be available when released.
Reply #649 Monday, September 26, 2022 1:23 PM
Must be a staff member/Moderator who can confirm who will and who will not get the Beta, do not really care who is right or wrong, but Clarity would be wonderful right now, Jafo or Doc, can you ask those in the know, and settle this please either way.
I can only confirm that every software released on Windows 11 that had a beta release (i.e. Start 11 beta and Fences 4 beta) could be purchased as a stand alone license AND / OR was included in OD subscription.
Reply #650 Monday, September 26, 2022 7:39 PM
If you have an Object Desktop Subscription - WB11 is part of that. If you purchased any previous version of WindowBlinds, there is an upgrade offer and I'll have a few keys as well to give to those who are committed to updating their skins to support some of the new features that WB11 enables.
Reply #652 Monday, September 26, 2022 10:26 PM
LOL...RND remembers why SD rarely commits to release dates. 
Reply #653 Monday, September 26, 2022 10:28 PM
Not confirmed but I would think that it would be available for users as part of Stardock's Object Desktop suite.
If you have an active Object Desktop account it should be available when released.
Reply #654 Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:49 PM
Seems as if WindowBlinds 11 is out in beta. Article on Neowin and Stardock website yet nothing on this forum?
I take that back. Apologies.. one of my first comments in months and I mess up.
Reply #655 Thursday, September 29, 2022 3:58 AM
If I buy WB11 beta, will I be able to access the full version of WB 11?
Reply #657 Thursday, September 29, 2022 9:50 AM
Ok.
Got the e mail for the upgrade for £9.99. Can or does anyone know what the Full price will be, and another question if anyone has answers. Can WB10 be left running on Win 10 (as its already paid for) and if the full price is paid for WB 11, can i run WB 11 on Win 11 independently of each other, Or maybe if WB 11 can be installed on both my Win 10 and Win 11, cheers.
Reply #659 Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:39 AM
Will WB be available (Beta or Final) in Steam?
Reply #660 Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:52 AM
can i run WB 11 on Win 11 independently of each other, Or maybe if WB 11 can be installed on both my Win 10 and Win 11, cheers.
No, its one or the other.
Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager
Sorry as my head is at another place today.
So i can not keep WB 10 which i have paid for on my Win 10 SSD (as it is now) and buy WB 11 for running on my Win 11 SSD, surely that is a mistake, What exactly will happen to my WB 10 if i did nothing.
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Reply #641 Sunday, September 25, 2022 3:35 PM
I don't think so.
We only have to wait a few more days to see which one of us is right.
Peace 😉