WindowBlinds 11 planning
Friday, December 25, 2020 by Frogboy | Discussion: WindowBlinds
We are putting together the schedule to make WindowBlinds 11.
Customization is a lot harder now than it used to be. Microsoft, for reasons unknown, has actively encouraged developers to take care of their own client and even non client (border, frame) painting rather than using standard Windows controls.
Microsoft's baffling decision to throw away trying to provide a standard set of in-app controls for developers and instead provide vague, often conflicting standards (cough, Fluent) has resulted in having less and less of the OS we can even touch.
Which is unfortunate because WindowBlinds, in theory, could actually give Windows users a consistent, OS-wide Fluent if apps weren't handling the drawing of their own UIs these days.
Still, with that in mind, there are things we can do such as skin the standard OS controls and then handle apps on a case-by-case basis. Keep in mind though, the more non-standard apps we have to handle, the harder it is for us to keep compatibility.
Earlier this year we released Curtains which doesn't even hook into the OS. This means it is 100% compatible. Skins, even the weirdest ones, won't break a given app. Of course, the price is that it doesn't skin nearly as much (no client area GUI controls like scrollbars, push buttons, radio buttons, etc.). It's done quite well. However, we know there are still plenty of people out there who would like to have more full control over how their Windows desktop looks.
That's where this thread comes in: What would you like to see in WindowBlinds 11?
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Reply #242 Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:20 PM
I just can't believe that no one from stardock can give an approximate date on when we can expect window blinds 11? I don't pretend to understand it and I personally think it's rude that the company won't even give a approximate date. As a paying customer I feel like I'm on the proverbial "double secret probation."
Reply #243 Sunday, October 31, 2021 11:37 AM
I just can't believe that no one from stardock can give an approximate date on when we can expect window blinds 11?
It's not personal. It's always this way, ie customization apps lag behind when new OS versions are introduced. We "don't understand it" because we're not programmers. They say patience is a virtue, or you can do what I'm doing which is continue to run Windows 10 until apps like WindowBlinds catch up.
Reply #244 Sunday, October 31, 2021 11:38 AM
Totally agree with you JCurie .
I only bought Start 11 as i thought WB11 was following right behind, got sick and tired of waiting for a reputable answer to when WB11 would even be in a beta stage. I did leave a reply in the Start11 section and was told by staff Start 11 will generate more revenue than a WB11 by a large amount, so it's all about money.
We should not be penalised for making the move to Win 11, some of us have no choice as we need to offer support for Win 11 for our jobs. I do keep a Win 10 Fully updated SSD with all my working WB 10 and Start 10, but needs must, see above , so i have manged to get full theme packs, Themes, Icons, Wallpapers to work well on my Win11 SSD, so at least i do not need to look at the Microsoft lame themes, until some distant future release of WB11, whenever that may be, my desktop is now looking fully Modified, so may never need a WB11 anyway.
Great customer service Stardock, just great. NOT.
Reply #245 Tuesday, November 2, 2021 10:52 PM
At this point it’s ridiculous. Why even start this god damn thread if it’s not coming until 2023?
Reply #246 Tuesday, November 2, 2021 11:29 PM
I just can't believe that no one from stardock can give an approximate date on when we can expect window blinds 11?
It's not personal. It's always this way, ie customization apps lag behind when new OS versions are introduced. We "don't understand it" because we're not programmers. They say patience is a virtue, or you can do what I'm doing which is continue to run Windows 10 until apps like WindowBlinds catch up.
No it hasn't always worked like that. Companies at one time wanted a personal relationship with their customers.
FROGBOY, Can you please respond on when your customers can expect at least the beta of window blinds 11?
Reply #247 Wednesday, November 3, 2021 12:18 AM
dont think its gonna happen anytime soon.. windows 12 will be out by the time we get it lol.. j/k. im still using windows 10 and have no plans whatsoever to upgrade to 11.. on any of my 3 pc's...
edit - unless i end up buying or building a new pc within the next year or 2... then i will try windows 11.. but till then NOPE.
Reply #248 Wednesday, November 3, 2021 12:44 AM
dont think its gonna happen anytime soon.. windows 12 will be out by the time we get it lol.. j/k. im still using windows 10 and have no plans whatsoever to upgrade to 11.. on any of my 3 pc's...
edit - unless i end up buying or building a new pc within the next year or 2... then i will try windows 11.. but till then NOPE.
I understand that. I never left Windows 7 but unfortunately I have an engineering program that requires Windows 10 or 11 so I figured if I had to update I might as well go with Windows 11. To be honest it really makes no sense for Stardock to bring out start 11 if they had no intentions on bringing Windowblinds 11 out within a month or two.
FROGBOY is the one with the answers. Hopefully he'll reply soon.
Reply #250 Wednesday, November 3, 2021 1:33 AM
It took 3 years for W10 to become usable, and that's only with third apps like WindowsBlind, 7 + 7 Taskbar and DI Awareness.
Leaving W7 behind become an obligation, not really because the lack of patching .Use third party browsers (like Warefox and firewalls like TiyWall), and you're 99% protected. A little good sense, and security is 99,9%. No, it's because stuff deliberately does not work with W7, like 10G Internet access.
Now I have have 6200/670 on Speedtest app on W10, and 863/678 on W7 with the same Mellanox SFP+ 10G card.
Same will happen with W11, and them W12, but more slowly, M$ killed the maximum they could think on W7, I have a feeling that it will be mostly gadget for grand pa that won't work on W10.
So, take a breath, continue to use W10 customized with WB to look usable, use third party security tools when M$ will drop it and you're good for at least 7 years.
Reply #251 Wednesday, November 3, 2021 2:32 AM
Yup, I am staying with Windows 10 for now. If I needed to have Windows 11 for work. It will be on another system purely for work. Don't need Windowblinds there if its for work. My Windows 10 currently very stable and I don't see the need to move on to Windows 11. But, this is just me.
I believe, Windowblinds will come but will take some times. I don't wish they rush Windowblinds out but with tonnes of issue on Windows 11.
Reply #252 Wednesday, November 3, 2021 9:53 AM
I have Windows 11 on a different computer just so I can get used to it and get comfortable with using it. I basically only use my Windows 10 computer and will continue to do so until Windowblinds and SkinStudio 11 are released.
Reply #256 Wednesday, November 3, 2021 2:35 PM
Pfff... I'm just out of beta and and version 1.0 is looking good!
Reply #260 Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:51 PM
Well thanks PapaBravo and Andy! It would be nice ! 
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Reply #241 Friday, October 29, 2021 12:13 PM
No offense, but didn't you read the posts stating what did and didn't work with Windows 11? One of the reasons I'm NOT upgrading to Windows 11 is because I like using my Stardocks apps on Windows 10.