Anyone there? - Chatting on IRC...
Wednesday, June 11, 2003 by MadIce | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
If you have ever been to the Stardock IRC server you probably recognize this question. People enter the channel and leave within a minute. Often they ask this or another question and leave. I can show you logs full of such samples.
These people are probably not familiar with IRC and think it is a kind of a phone. They expect to be answered immediately and they leave within a minute. Sometimes very angry because they didn't get an answer within a minute.
A second reason why people do that is because they want to try out the chat option in SDCentral or the WC Browser. If they don't see any activity for a minute or two they leave.
Being in such a channel and seeing those people come and go can be irritating, but we are getting used to it. However, most of them stay away from channels like #WinCustomize and #SDCentral because of that. These two channels are the ones used by SDCentral and the WC Browser to autmatically connect you to the IRC server.
You should remember that there are real people in these IRC channels, so don't be nasty to them. Stardock employees, skinners, SD/WC users and SD gamers all hang out there. These people are often connected to IRC for 24/7 and may be working with another program, sleeping, skinning, making coffee, answering a phone or away from their keybaord for another reason. So, chances are they they do not see you as soon as you appear. Remember that these people come from all over the world and may not be in the same timezone as you. Half of them are not even from the US. Nobody is rude to visitors intentionally, but if they are we will kick them off the channel. People in these channels are there for fun and may help you out if they know an answer to your question. So, next time you join please wait 15 minutes or so.
Some of you may be afraid to speak on IRC because they see "famous" names there. Don't worry about that, none of them behave like stars.
The IRC channel is intended as a support tool and should be fun in the first place. It can also be a great tool for people working on the same skinning project.
The SD IRC software is as simple as it gets, but you may need some extra information about its practical use and may need to learn a few commands. Also there are more hints and tips, like those described above. In addition, there are rules what we accept and do not accept on IRC. If you are interested I can write all of that down and make it a sticky thread (Jafo already agreed to that). Let me know if you are interested in that.
Have fun...
These people are probably not familiar with IRC and think it is a kind of a phone. They expect to be answered immediately and they leave within a minute. Sometimes very angry because they didn't get an answer within a minute.
A second reason why people do that is because they want to try out the chat option in SDCentral or the WC Browser. If they don't see any activity for a minute or two they leave.
Being in such a channel and seeing those people come and go can be irritating, but we are getting used to it. However, most of them stay away from channels like #WinCustomize and #SDCentral because of that. These two channels are the ones used by SDCentral and the WC Browser to autmatically connect you to the IRC server.
You should remember that there are real people in these IRC channels, so don't be nasty to them. Stardock employees, skinners, SD/WC users and SD gamers all hang out there. These people are often connected to IRC for 24/7 and may be working with another program, sleeping, skinning, making coffee, answering a phone or away from their keybaord for another reason. So, chances are they they do not see you as soon as you appear. Remember that these people come from all over the world and may not be in the same timezone as you. Half of them are not even from the US. Nobody is rude to visitors intentionally, but if they are we will kick them off the channel. People in these channels are there for fun and may help you out if they know an answer to your question. So, next time you join please wait 15 minutes or so.
Some of you may be afraid to speak on IRC because they see "famous" names there. Don't worry about that, none of them behave like stars.
The IRC channel is intended as a support tool and should be fun in the first place. It can also be a great tool for people working on the same skinning project.
The SD IRC software is as simple as it gets, but you may need some extra information about its practical use and may need to learn a few commands. Also there are more hints and tips, like those described above. In addition, there are rules what we accept and do not accept on IRC. If you are interested I can write all of that down and make it a sticky thread (Jafo already agreed to that). Let me know if you are interested in that.
Have fun...
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craeonics
Reply #43 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:21 PM
Reply #43 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:21 PM
Aww come on, iceman. Just because everyone is too chicken to hop into irc, doesn't mean that they're being "negative" and all your work is pointless. You just have to persuade them. (Tell feline there's choclotate in irc and he'll be there in no time).
Snowman
Reply #44 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:04 PM
Reply #44 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:04 PM
IRC?! wassat?!?!?!?!?
Internal Ripping Camp?
Snowman hides from any low flying object of Dutch origin
Internal Ripping Camp?
Snowman hides from any low flying object of Dutch origin
MadIce
Reply #45 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:07 PM
Reply #45 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:07 PM
No, crae. There is no need to persuade people to use IRC. The thread was started to get some constructive ideas for a doc and yours were everything but that. The responses so far are enough to make that doc. After a few ours from now it will be finished.
@ Snowman
pjpowell
Reply #47 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:12 PM
Reply #47 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:12 PM
pjpowell throws MadIce at Snowman by his moustache
MadIce
Reply #48 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:34 PM
Reply #48 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:34 PM
MadIce lands on Snowman's lap and hopes that doesn't cause any of Snowman's "organic gases" to escape.
Jafo
Reply #49 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:39 PM
Reply #49 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:39 PM
Heck...IRC isn't evil or daunting....I survive there OK though I lnow precious little about the intricacies....it's really just a real-time all-in-one message board, with the option to get into 'private' conversations as well....
Jafo
Reply #50 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:41 PM
Reply #50 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:41 PM
'know'.....[my edit function doesn't work....never has, since the html coding thingie]...
_PK
Reply #51 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:04 PM
Reply #51 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:04 PM
From craeonics:
You join on the wrong times
For example: #Skinnables is crowded with talking people atm.
Oh,.. *bumb* or so...
| Truly, like Koa most of the time I am in irc (usually through irc.thirty4.com) I find countless people... idling |
You join on the wrong times
For example: #Skinnables is crowded with talking people atm.Oh,.. *bumb* or so...
Chris
Reply #53 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:11 PM
Reply #53 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:11 PM
(sorry I could not help myself with the above post. if you were on #stardock, you'd get it
Really though its not much more like MSN or AIM in which you can open a chat room with your friends. In this case there are several "large" rooms with all manner of folk it (all pretty nice people too, if a bit odd: ). Plus feel free to create your own personal channel if you want something a bit smaller.
I was going to suggest a newbie channel where people can come in and kick the tires, experiment and get their feet wet and not be afraid or worry about doing something perceived as stupid, but really the #wincustomize channel can and does serve that purpose. At any given time there are usually about 5-10 people in that channel, just hanging out and passing the time chatting or just idling as they're off doing other stuff. Heck, you'll see people like WOM, and werewolf among others. If there's no converation going on, don't frett it, it ebbs and flows
Really though its not much more like MSN or AIM in which you can open a chat room with your friends. In this case there are several "large" rooms with all manner of folk it (all pretty nice people too, if a bit odd: ). Plus feel free to create your own personal channel if you want something a bit smaller.
I was going to suggest a newbie channel where people can come in and kick the tires, experiment and get their feet wet and not be afraid or worry about doing something perceived as stupid, but really the #wincustomize channel can and does serve that purpose. At any given time there are usually about 5-10 people in that channel, just hanging out and passing the time chatting or just idling as they're off doing other stuff. Heck, you'll see people like WOM, and werewolf among others. If there's no converation going on, don't frett it, it ebbs and flows
Snowman
Reply #54 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:43 PM
hehe, me too... just ask MI
Reply #54 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:43 PM
| "squeeze me, i make pretty good effects" |
hehe, me too... just ask MI
lvlunki
Reply #55 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:52 PM
Reply #55 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:52 PM
I'm new to IRC, but the few times I did try...it wasn't bad. I just have to master (and get to know) the commands. You'll prolly see me in there from time to time.
feline
Reply #56 Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:42 AM
feline felt negative about IRC yesterday
but then again, yesterday my home machine was ill, and i had a headache.
i tried to explain the problems / confusions / culter clashes that i experienced when i tried using IRC. most of those felt negative (they left me feeling confused and upset), so that is how the retelling of them comes across.
Reply #56 Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:42 AM
| MadIce - OK. There is too much negativity in this thread about IRC, so I think nobody is interested. I'll finish the document and send it to people on request. |
feline felt negative about IRC yesterday
but then again, yesterday my home machine was ill, and i had a headache.
i tried to explain the problems / confusions / culter clashes that i experienced when i tried using IRC. most of those felt negative (they left me feeling confused and upset), so that is how the retelling of them comes across.
feline
Reply #57 Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:45 AM
feline considers using this as an excuse for raiding crae's basement and kidnapping crae!
that way we could hide him somewhere the Black Ops wont be able to find him....
feline ***innocent expression number 37***
Reply #57 Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:45 AM
| craeonics - * Later that night, crae's basement gets raided by a Black Ops squad and he is forced to enter #WinCustomize and answer support questions The horror! The horror!! |
feline considers using this as an excuse for raiding crae's basement and kidnapping crae!
that way we could hide him somewhere the Black Ops wont be able to find him....
feline ***innocent expression number 37***
Doreen
Reply #58 Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:37 AM
Reply #58 Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:37 AM
oh no you don't kitty kat cuz I'd go find that dutchy... hehe
and me still wonders why ppl need IRC when there is such an abundance of msg boards now!!!!
and me still wonders why ppl need IRC when there is such an abundance of msg boards now!!!!
MadIce
Reply #59 Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:07 AM
Reply #59 Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:07 AM
*** sigh ***
Doreen, if you are wondering about that, then you don't need it. I am not asking here if you will join IRC. I couldn't care less. Although I remember we had fun on #ArtUproar.
Well, I am not an IRC advocate. IRC is just another medium. Nothing more, nothing less. Because I am IRC admin I just happen to see that people have trouble using it. So, I wanted to make a doc for them. It's a s simple as that.
Have fun.
Doreen, if you are wondering about that, then you don't need it. I am not asking here if you will join IRC. I couldn't care less. Although I remember we had fun on #ArtUproar.
Well, I am not an IRC advocate. IRC is just another medium. Nothing more, nothing less. Because I am IRC admin I just happen to see that people have trouble using it. So, I wanted to make a doc for them. It's a s simple as that.
Have fun.
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Reply #41 Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:47 PM