Object Desktop and Windows 10 : ODN Updates?
Thursday, March 3, 2016 by PoSmedley | Discussion: OS Customization
So I have been subscribing to ODN on a monthly basis, even though it costs more in the long run, it's what I could afford or I should say 'how' I could afford it. I have received the emails saying that the monthly sub will be discontinued as of April 2016.
My question is this : Come April, will programs that have NOT been compatible with Windows 10 be updated or not?
I am referring to
- SoundPackager (which I miss dearly)
- IconPackager (Another I miss dearly especially now that there is a version of Windowblinds that I can use with Windows 10)
- Icon Developer
- Skin Studio
I just want to know what I'm getting for the money. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, it's just that this is the first time that I can recall where so many items were behind or being left out.
I understand the demise of DesktopX. But I'm still a little touchy about the absence of Object Edit (I don't know if I'll ever understand why that was taken away. It was an insanely helpful program for a noob like me) and Icon X (which I can't believe couldn't be updated for newer versions of Windows, unless that was not the issue)
Again, not trying to sound argumentative or anything, just wondering what I am sure quite a few folks are wondering. Will these programs be ready come April, and if not, do you all have some kind of timeline of when they will be?
There is one other thought that runs through my mind in that, if I CANNOT install these programs because they are not compatible with Win10 but are part of the ODN package, what happens in a year when they are compatible and my sub has run out? DO I get them retroactively or do I have to subscribe again? I understand the sub gets me all the updates, etc., but sometimes some of us can only afford to pay for these things when it's convenient for US, if you know what I mean.
Looking forward to your response.
Thanks,
Po
Reply #2 Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:46 PM
if you are that broke, you should really think twice about spending even a single penny for desktop customization. that's irresponsible.
Reply #3 Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:15 PM
I'm running Windows 10, and Iconpscager works perfectly for me Po. In fact it works even better than on Windows 8.1 Like many people, I'd resigned myself to not being able to run Iconpackager on Win 10. But I read somewhere on DeviantArt that it worke on in 10 after you set the compatibilty for Win 7. I figured it was worth a shot, not really expecting it to work. But to my surprise, it workd, and now it runs exactly the way it should. Also displaying live folders properly
Reply #4 Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:33 PM
Bears repeating from Neil:
DO NOT INSTALL ANY VERSION OF ICONPACKAGER ON WINDOWS 10.
The older versions are not blocking install as they are not aware of Windows 10
If you uninstall your OS is liable to break!!!!
Reply #6 Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:33 PM
if you are that broke, you should really think twice about spending even a single penny for desktop customization. that's irresponsible.
Really?!?! Without even knowing ANYTHING about me and my situation except for a couple paragraphs?!?!? REALLY?!?!?! If you're THAT ignorant, you shouldn't be commenting on ANY persons financial situation or how they should manage their funds. Walk a mile in my shoes first and then let me beat you upside the head with them. WHO the fuck do you think you are, my mother? Cause even she wouldn't presume to go where you went.
For fucks sake, I knew their was more than one reason I started lurking instead of posting.
ID, thanks for the info and a BS free answer.
Reply #7 Friday, March 4, 2016 2:49 AM
sure. it's your life after all, so keep doing what you do if this is your path to happiness. seems to work great for you.
Reply #8 Friday, March 4, 2016 9:39 AM
sure. it's your life after all, so keep doing what you do if this is your path to happiness. seems to work great for you.
Now see, there you go again, assuming you know me or enough about me to offer more personal advice. You have your head so far up your own ass that you think your shit smells so much better than anybody else's, you can just run around being presumptuous and get away with it cause you are in such deep denial about your superiority complex.
There used to be a button or a way a person could fix it so that he didn't have to see comments from specific fucktards in his thread. Until I can find it, I would greatly, deeply, and most profoundly appreciate it if you didn't comment in my threads and I will do you the courtesy of ignoring any thread you deem to start.
Now, I know it'll be killing you, so I will gladly give you the last word on this, just to avoid your already swollen head from exploding should you attempt NOT to get the last word in.
and btw....my path to happiness may not be fanfuckingtastic, but I get some satisfaction knowing that it is paved with the corpses of pretenders such as you.
Reply #9 Friday, March 4, 2016 10:21 AM
There used to be a button or a way a person could fix it so that he didn't have to see comments from specific fucktards in his thread.
Gotta do it from the Joe User site.
Reply #11 Friday, March 4, 2016 12:31 PM
Man does not live on bread alone. In the worst of times, we all need something that helps us take our heads out of our misery, even if it's just for a short while - so we can recharge batteries and find the strength to keep going.
You should know that, Moshi.
Reply #12 Friday, March 4, 2016 2:13 PM
Man does not live on bread alone. In the worst of times, we all need something that helps us take our heads out of our misery, even if it's just for a short while - so we can recharge batteries and find the strength to keep going.
You should know that, Moshi.
Yeah, absolutely! Sometimes an inexpensive distraction is the best way to step aside for a bit before taking stock and re-evaluating things
Reply #13 Friday, March 4, 2016 2:48 PM
Life is like the proverbial box of chocolates. When you get started you never know what it will throw at you. You change what you can, leave alone what you can't and the rest...you don't worry about. Its knowing the difference between them that's hard. You do what you have to because its for you (meaning family et al) and no one else. Been there...done that.
Reply #15 Friday, March 4, 2016 8:11 PM
Hi, I am running win 10 and you can use the custom icons, but you have to do it one folder at a time. I am using my fave packages and mixing them up . also, when i did the initial upgrade from win 8.1, I had start 8 installed and it also worked fine, but i like the win 10 design, so I uninstalled it. Also i use fences like religiously, and that also works. Window Blinds 8 also was working, but with limitaions. The only icons you cant change in 8 or 10, is the system library icons. which isnt cool
Reply #16 Saturday, March 5, 2016 5:41 AM
Man does not live on bread alone. In the worst of times, we all need something that helps us take our heads out of our misery, even if it's just for a short while - so we can recharge batteries and find the strength to keep going.
You should know that, Moshi.
sure. my priorities would be different though. i have had my own experience with overspending when i was younger and at least for me the stress of waiting like a junkie for the monthly paycheck is not something i would ever want to experience again.
Reply #17 Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:30 AM
Man does not live on bread alone. In the worst of times, we all need something that helps us take our heads out of our misery, even if it's just for a short while - so we can recharge batteries and find the strength to keep going.
You should know that, Moshi.
Once upon a time, in the early 90s, I was homeless for 3 years. I had a pregnant wife 10 years my junior, who screwed everyone but me. But I thought I loved her, so I thought I could fix it.
We found an abandoned house and squatted in it. I kept what food I could get cold by submerging it in a creek in the backyard, held in place by a stolen grocery cart. I turn on the electricity illegally, next month, the power company took the meter. I bypassed that and got power again. Next month, they cut the lines at the street and I was under investigation for utilities fraud.
Then my son was born. Before we left the hospital, the authorities took my first born son away from me.
I was devastated. I became a drug and alcohol addict. My wife got to the point that the only way she'd have sex with me was if I gave her drugs in trade.
I STILL thought I loved her.
It got to the point where we went door to door, begging for food. ( Because we had sold our food stamps to get drugs and alcohol.) Sometimes, we would go to Walmart and search the parking lot for money folks had dropped when they pulled the keys out of their pockets, etc. Suprising what the wind blows behind the soda machines.) Spent 2 winters in a house with no windows, no heat, sleeping under as many blankets as we could get, wearing the cleanest dirty clothes we could scrounge from the pile in the other room, after shaking out the bugs and spiders.
Finally, I found a job doing roofing, just to over hear my co workers discussing how one of them had been screwing my wife behind my back, the one who was supposed to be my best friend. Needless to say, the job didn't work out. I devised a plan to find a gun and take them both out, then do myself. (Glad that never happened.)
Near the end of those 3 years, I had lost all pride, all will to live. I was existing. I cared about nothing. I was as low as I could be, in my soul.
The last year of that mess, I found an escape. I found an old battery operated boombox. I started recording music from the radio on cassette tapes my wife would steal for me, in trade for anything I could find that would get her high. It was a miserable life, and this is the short version, it was much worse than I can explain. Not that it's relevant, but that wife is currently serving 20 years in prison for murder.
It took a lot of counseling, time spent in a mental institute, and faith in a power greater than us all, to bring me to where I am today.
Reason I'm telling this story: The only thing I looked forward to was that boombox and my recordings. Without that, life had no meaning. Seriously. It broke a few times, but due to my need for it, I learned how to repair/replace the recording head on it. ( Can't do it now, that part of my life is foggy as hell.) It was my escape from reality. As long as I had the boombox, a few batteries, and a cassette tape, I could survive. Sounds silly to you, I'm sure.
Funny thing is, I'm grateful to have lived those 3 terrible years. It helped me become who I am today.
Moral of the story, sometimes people get so low, so weary of the struggle to live day to day, that they will attach to one thing and that one thing can be their source of light, happiness, even if only for a while.
Thank you for listening. Love you Noah! Strive on, Brother!
Reply #18 Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:40 AM
Note the above rant is not to say that Po/Noah is in that kind of situation. I just felt the need to speak.
Reply #19 Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:50 AM
Love you Noah! Strive on, Brother!
Yeah, absolutely Noah, here's hoping you and yours are safe and well and happy.... that life is looking up for you all.
Oh, and RND, I had some hard times in my life, but none as bad as yours, thankfully... so glad you came out the other side to become a real decent bloke with a big heart
Reply #20 Sunday, March 6, 2016 6:02 AM
This is bad news, i was hoping i would hear something like "we are working on it" expect a beta next month.
I was holding on to my money for this years sub of OD.
Without IP its only half the fun, i know there is plenty other cool apps in the OD list, i know this since its always pointed out.
But IconPackager was one of the most important for me in the list besides MM Fences and WB.
Guess ill pass this year and wait until it becomes 10Ready... I know peanuts for you in terms of money and im only one person
Let me add this:
Imagine: the customers that did buy IP in the past, consider them as pets for a second instead of customers.Your very own Pets.
Cats or dogs choose which one you like.
Pets will ultimately grow up, i just mention this because the customers probably now have grown into another OS, be it for the reason that it was "free", or for other reason such as Gaming. Whatever the reason they did it.
Lets just say IP was their daily bowl of food on prior OS along side with a nice fresh water filled bowl called WB.
The loyal trust in Stardock products strengthened their decission that whatever they do SD would not let them down.
Now the food bowl remains empty since the last TWO OS versions, the pet scrached did tricks to tickle some info about the missing food out of you.
Yet you did not even start opening the can. The pet will ultimately starve.
Please Make Things Happen. Save them Cats and Dogs!
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Reply #1 Thursday, March 3, 2016 12:02 PM
SkinStudio 10 is already in beta, along with WindowBlinds 10.
IconPakcager - This is something that might be updated in the future, but there is no timeline right now.
SoundPackager - No info on an update right now.
Icon Developer - No info on an update right now.
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