Useless Threads and IRC
Sunday, March 2, 2003 by elvee | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
How about if there was a IRC Channel set up in Stardock for useless banter, easily available in SD Central and WC Browser. It could relieve some of the useless Threads and traffic on the Message Board. The only thing is how could we encourage people to use it... 
I would use it
I would use it
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Reply #22 Sunday, March 2, 2003 7:16 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, March 2, 2003 7:16 PM
Would this thread be considered full of useless banter?
Not everyone wants to join a chat room but just wants to post in a db.
I been to the wincustomize room and it was full of lurkers that were connected but mute. Very aggravating going to a room full of ppl that won't say a word.
Not everyone wants to join a chat room but just wants to post in a db.
I been to the wincustomize room and it was full of lurkers that were connected but mute. Very aggravating going to a room full of ppl that won't say a word.
DavidK
Reply #24 Sunday, March 2, 2003 7:58 PM
Reply #24 Sunday, March 2, 2003 7:58 PM
Generally IRC is pretty quiet unless someone has something to say. That's why elvee's idea for a "chat room for useless banter" is a good idea. It would be a more active place for conversations.
If you install MIRC you can be connected to several chat rooms, leave them open in the background and have the window notify you if anyone mentions your name or addresses you. Very handy...
If you install MIRC you can be connected to several chat rooms, leave them open in the background and have the window notify you if anyone mentions your name or addresses you. Very handy...
White_Moth
Reply #25 Sunday, March 2, 2003 8:03 PM
Reply #25 Sunday, March 2, 2003 8:03 PM
I was thinking the same thing today, then realized I didn't know how to use it, but now that I do, I hope it does become a more useful tool for everybody. 
Angel_Wings
Reply #27 Monday, March 3, 2003 10:51 PM
Reply #27 Monday, March 3, 2003 10:51 PM
Angel_Wings likes useless threads if they are to lift spirits or open doors to new folks.
Angel_Wings will shut up now.
Angel_Wings will shut up now.
Elfkura
Reply #29 Monday, March 3, 2003 10:54 PM
Reply #29 Monday, March 3, 2003 10:54 PM
It's simple. Not everyone has T1 or cable or DSL to use at their discretion. To be able to sit in an IRC channel waiting for an answer or some odd and funny comment to what they have to say/ask, that's asking too much from a lot of people. Most people don't have that sort of patience anyways.
In an attempt to curb a large amount of the useless threads, I have started one thread (which now has turned into a monster of over 6000 posts).... it was, as written in the first post, some things aren't happening in IRC, so I did it here. Now, a lot of the other members have turned that thread into something else, I don't know if I want to attempt starting another thread to curb it. I can name one "Questions" but it'll end up the same way as my "msgboard chatroom marathon"... with too many answers and questions people just don't want to read.
IRC, which I have always believed to be one of the easiest things to use, wasn't as simple as you or I might think, as my boyfriend recently told me... to which I am still doubtful....
My explanation. Now, Deskmod has tried encrypting a chat box into its site, but I don't believe it was all that helpful. What we can do, is implement a messaging system like deskmod did, where users can send individual messages to the admins or whoever. However, the administrators (coders) of WC are extremely busy with other projects and all sorts of other things, so it's not going to be easy to implement then right now.... not without a lot of screaming, kicking, and booting
In an attempt to curb a large amount of the useless threads, I have started one thread (which now has turned into a monster of over 6000 posts).... it was, as written in the first post, some things aren't happening in IRC, so I did it here. Now, a lot of the other members have turned that thread into something else, I don't know if I want to attempt starting another thread to curb it. I can name one "Questions" but it'll end up the same way as my "msgboard chatroom marathon"... with too many answers and questions people just don't want to read.
IRC, which I have always believed to be one of the easiest things to use, wasn't as simple as you or I might think, as my boyfriend recently told me... to which I am still doubtful....
My explanation. Now, Deskmod has tried encrypting a chat box into its site, but I don't believe it was all that helpful. What we can do, is implement a messaging system like deskmod did, where users can send individual messages to the admins or whoever. However, the administrators (coders) of WC are extremely busy with other projects and all sorts of other things, so it's not going to be easy to implement then right now.... not without a lot of screaming, kicking, and booting
elvee
Reply #30 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:03 PM
Reply #30 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:03 PM
I'm just trying to find a way to rid of some of the redundant stuff Elfie, saw some Admins politely griping about it
elvee
Reply #31 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:03 PM
Reply #31 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:03 PM
I thought it might be a way to filter some of that from the Board
Elfkura
Reply #32 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:24 PM
Reply #32 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:24 PM
Yeah, I understand. However, what can anyone do anything about people not reading? I think I have a way to do it so people will actuallyr read it... but we'll see.
IPlural
Reply #33 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:33 PM
Reply #33 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:33 PM
mmm, IRC isn't really an issue for dial up as long as your not on an IRC network, then you deal with lag, network splits and such. If Stardocks IRC server is on a private network and not a public one, it should be fine.
It is a personal choice to make use of it though for sure....
It is a personal choice to make use of it though for sure....
Elfkura
Reply #34 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:36 PM
Reply #34 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:36 PM
Well, people in many other nations actually buy the minutes to use the internet. It gets pretty expensive when they have to buy the time they're sitting on IRC waiting for someone to make a comment or whatever
IPlural
Reply #35 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:37 PM
Reply #35 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:37 PM
elvee, actually it is one of the best ideas for support and interaction that I have seen come across the board so far...
just my pov, but real time communications in chat is leaps and bounds beyound message boards..
just my pov, but real time communications in chat is leaps and bounds beyound message boards..
IPlural
Reply #36 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:38 PM
Reply #36 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:38 PM
true, very true... that would be something needing to be addressed for sure. We always had an active OP in channel, always...
Just for that reason, no one returns to a full room of zombiezed names listed as being in the channel while snoozing or sitting at the dinner table
Just for that reason, no one returns to a full room of zombiezed names listed as being in the channel while snoozing or sitting at the dinner table
IPlural
Reply #37 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:40 PM
Reply #37 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:40 PM
I know I do not use the channels as they are today for that exact reason...
and I am an OP at an international new chat, so it was my first choice when checking out the WinC browser...
and I am an OP at an international new chat, so it was my first choice when checking out the WinC browser...
IPlural
Reply #38 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:42 PM
Reply #38 Monday, March 3, 2003 11:42 PM
anyway...
it is a good idea, logistic need working out, people will either like it or not, and those that do will find they get a lot from it...
I probably will not make use of it very often, but only because of the fact that I've spent the last 2 years in channels everyday anywhere from 5 - 18 hours a day thats why I'm hiding from the one I OP at...
it is a good idea, logistic need working out, people will either like it or not, and those that do will find they get a lot from it...
I probably will not make use of it very often, but only because of the fact that I've spent the last 2 years in channels everyday anywhere from 5 - 18 hours a day
thats why I'm hiding from the one I OP at...
IPlural
Reply #40 Tuesday, March 4, 2003 12:23 AM
Reply #40 Tuesday, March 4, 2003 12:23 AM
I revise my opinon about the channels...
Whumphry are more animated and alive.....
Whumphry are more animated and alive.....
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Reply #21 Sunday, March 2, 2003 7:05 PM
17:00 (5 pm) Saturday is 6:00 (am) Sunday Aussie time, right?
Is that a problem? Or what's the best time to try to catch as much people as possible?