Linux on Microsoft's Xbox video game console
Sunday, February 23, 2003 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
What is the big deal? Why would you want to run Linux on Microsoft's Xbox video game console? Anybody know?
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The DJ
Reply #2 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:45 AM
Reply #2 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:45 AM
Also, when modded with Linux or not, you can download games easily and play them.
messybuu
Reply #3 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:47 AM
Reply #3 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:47 AM
Are you sure it was Microsoft? IIRC, it was the Lindows character who offered the money.
The DJ
Reply #4 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:49 AM
Reply #4 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:49 AM
Hmmm, I could of swore it was Microsoft. I go to the TeamXbox forums and I remember something big on it.
I have a link about it but it doesn't work anymore. I'll try searching the forums.
I have a link about it but it doesn't work anymore. I'll try searching the forums.
The DJ
Reply #5 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:59 AM
Reply #5 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:59 AM
Ok, sorry about that, it wasn't Microsoft.
You're right Robot Janus, it was Michael Robertson (chief executive of Lindows) who was offering $200,000.
You're right Robot Janus, it was Michael Robertson (chief executive of Lindows) who was offering $200,000.
The DJ
Reply #6 Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:00 AM
Reply #6 Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:00 AM
I forget, here's the link:
http://www.forbes.com/2003/01/03/0103facesam.html?partner=yahoo&referrer=
http://www.forbes.com/2003/01/03/0103facesam.html?partner=yahoo&referrer=
joetheblow
Reply #7 Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:20 AM
Reply #7 Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:20 AM
so the whole point is to be able to download games? Well I don't have Microsoft's Xbox video game conso but it would seem wierd to put an operating system on the Xbox.
hmmmm....
hmmmm....
The DJ
Reply #8 Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:03 AM
Reply #8 Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:03 AM
Well joe, from what I understand the Xbox wasn't easy to hack. It could then be open source and tweaking is available. I could show you some videos of a game called Halo in which they hacked it and did incredible things to the game but you said you don't have an Xbox and you wouldn't know what it was like before.
New menus, more memory, bigger harddrives...modding it opens up alot of doors. Add a mod chip and stream anything from your pc and play them on your tv. Downloading Xbox games and playing games from another system being one of them, not to mention region-free games. You could basically turn it into a pc, running software on it, getting email and browsing the web from you tv.
Then there's the people who hate Microsoft and will do it because just because Microsoft made it
.
New menus, more memory, bigger harddrives...modding it opens up alot of doors. Add a mod chip and stream anything from your pc and play them on your tv. Downloading Xbox games and playing games from another system being one of them, not to mention region-free games. You could basically turn it into a pc, running software on it, getting email and browsing the web from you tv.
Then there's the people who hate Microsoft and will do it because just because Microsoft made it
.
joetheblow
Reply #9 Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:38 AM
Reply #9 Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:38 AM
I think M$ would try to take a hint and make there game console into allot of the things you just mentioned anyway. (for the same price of course)
The DJ
Reply #10 Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:22 PM
Reply #10 Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:22 PM
I've heard a rumor about streaming from you pc to your tv.
With the Xbox2, we'll probably see something Tivo like however again it's something they're talkin about.
They don't want some features because they say it'll lean more towards a pc and not a home console. They were also mentioning about browsing the web from you Xbox.
With the Xbox2, we'll probably see something Tivo like however again it's something they're talkin about.
They don't want some features because they say it'll lean more towards a pc and not a home console. They were also mentioning about browsing the web from you Xbox.
The DJ
Reply #11 Monday, February 24, 2003 12:54 AM
Reply #11 Monday, February 24, 2003 12:54 AM
Something to think about is if it had all those features would you still want to but it?
Would you want it to be more like a pc or would you just want entertainment from a good ol' console?
Some knock it and say it's already too pc-ish.
Would you want it to be more like a pc or would you just want entertainment from a good ol' console?
Some knock it and say it's already too pc-ish.
SkinneRyan
Reply #12 Monday, February 24, 2003 7:42 AM
Reply #12 Monday, February 24, 2003 7:42 AM
It was only a matter of time until this happened. Inside the shell, it's basically a computer with a custom made keyboard (mind you, the controller is almost as big as one anyway 
). Microsoft shouldn't have even tried to enter the video game market. All other video game systems are built for games, but M$ decided that they can probably make a couple of million$ from it, and that's why they will bail out in a year or two.
). Microsoft shouldn't have even tried to enter the video game market. All other video game systems are built for games, but M$ decided that they can probably make a couple of million$ from it, and that's why they will bail out in a year or two.
The DJ
Reply #13 Monday, February 24, 2003 3:44 PM
Reply #13 Monday, February 24, 2003 3:44 PM
IMO Ryan, I totally disagree with you.
Microsoft innovated alot of things with the Xbox.
Dolby Digital 5.1 during gameplay in 99.9% of games, the ability to listen to your music you burn on the harddrive during select games, and ethernet port in the back for easy online play, high definition availibility, the ability to download new levels, new costumes, new bots, etc.. in the respected games from Xbox Live while also being able to do the same from the demo disk from the OXM magazine. The Xbox is also really easy to develop for which is alot more than you can say for the Ps2.
It's hard to compete with the Ps2 because it had a head start not to mention all the years the first Ps was out gaining a huge fanbase. The Xbox's release games were alot better than the Ps2's games at release.
Halo for the Xbox has set a new standard in FPS.
In 2005, the Xbox2 and Ps3 will release at the same time being no more than a week spread out from each other. The Xbox is actually doin pretty well now entering it's second year from release.
The Xbox is already out-doing or out selling the Gamecube and I think the Xbox2 will really give the Ps3 a run for it's money in 2005. When it comes down to it though, it's really all better for gamers.
Microsoft innovated alot of things with the Xbox.
Dolby Digital 5.1 during gameplay in 99.9% of games, the ability to listen to your music you burn on the harddrive during select games, and ethernet port in the back for easy online play, high definition availibility, the ability to download new levels, new costumes, new bots, etc.. in the respected games from Xbox Live while also being able to do the same from the demo disk from the OXM magazine. The Xbox is also really easy to develop for which is alot more than you can say for the Ps2.
It's hard to compete with the Ps2 because it had a head start not to mention all the years the first Ps was out gaining a huge fanbase. The Xbox's release games were alot better than the Ps2's games at release.
Halo for the Xbox has set a new standard in FPS.
In 2005, the Xbox2 and Ps3 will release at the same time being no more than a week spread out from each other. The Xbox is actually doin pretty well now entering it's second year from release.
The Xbox is already out-doing or out selling the Gamecube and I think the Xbox2 will really give the Ps3 a run for it's money in 2005. When it comes down to it though, it's really all better for gamers.
messybuu
Reply #14 Monday, February 24, 2003 4:06 PM
Reply #14 Monday, February 24, 2003 4:06 PM
At first I also thought that all the features of the Xbox were bloat, but now that I've experienced Xbox Live as well as custom soundtracks on games that would be terrible if I had to listen to its soundtrack for hours on end, it's definitely becoming my favorite system.
The DJ
Reply #15 Monday, February 24, 2003 4:19 PM
Reply #15 Monday, February 24, 2003 4:19 PM
Yeah I hear you RB, though some games don't need the custom soundtrack feature you know.
Dolby Digital 5.1 and high definition were to me some of it's best features.
I can't say I have Live yet though I plan on gettin it soon. What's your tag so I can look you up?
Dolby Digital 5.1 and high definition were to me some of it's best features.
I can't say I have Live yet though I plan on gettin it soon. What's your tag so I can look you up?
paxx
Reply #16 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:18 AM
Reply #16 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:18 AM
So how different is the Xbox from a PC as far as gaming goes?
Xbox IS a PC after all.
Xbox IS a PC after all.
kthxbye
Reply #17 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:27 AM
Reply #17 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:27 AM
Sure, the Xbox is based on traditional PC hardware, and even runs at its core the base of Win2k and DirectX - but it's still as much of a PC, or as little of a PC as any other game system.
Which is to say - yes, they're computers. They're just highly specialized computers.
Just look under the hood of the Gamecube, does it sound like you're talking about a 'PC' or a 'Game System'?
CPU: IBM Power PC "Gekko", 485Mhz
GPU: "Flipper" - an ATI designed chipset.
Expansion: 1 Type III PCMCIA
Which is to say - yes, they're computers. They're just highly specialized computers.
Just look under the hood of the Gamecube, does it sound like you're talking about a 'PC' or a 'Game System'?
CPU: IBM Power PC "Gekko", 485Mhz
GPU: "Flipper" - an ATI designed chipset.
Expansion: 1 Type III PCMCIA
kthxbye
Reply #18 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:28 AM
Reply #18 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:28 AM
And I don't think this thread really hit on the -main- reason for running Linux on an Xbox.
It's the same reason there's an OpenBSD port for the Dreamcast really.
Why? Because you /can/.
It's the same reason there's an OpenBSD port for the Dreamcast really.
Why? Because you /can/.
The DJ
Reply #19 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:46 AM
Reply #19 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:46 AM
You got to it before me kthxbye and you really hit it on the head.
If you really wanted to know how the Xbox works paxx here's a link from another forum which says it all and then some. It is also compares in depth the Xbox vs Gamecube.
http://forums.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18182
And because of the Xbox's architecture it is much easier to develop games for compared to the other two.
If you really wanted to know how the Xbox works paxx here's a link from another forum which says it all and then some. It is also compares in depth the Xbox vs Gamecube.
http://forums.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18182
And because of the Xbox's architecture it is much easier to develop games for compared to the other two.
paxx
Reply #20 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:02 PM
Reply #20 Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:02 PM
I don't want a comparison between XBox and other consoles. I want to know the difference between the XBox and a PC. I don't have a gaming station and I don't see the point.
Can somebody convince me?
Can somebody convince me?
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Reply #1 Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:44 AM