Ms's strategy for Windows flawed?
Friday, August 14, 2015 by Uvah | Discussion: Personal Computing
Read this in yahoo finance. Article has a brief interview with SD's CEO Brad Wardell and a nice pic of the boss.
Reply #2 Friday, August 14, 2015 8:22 AM
MS's strategies have always been flawed for the most part... Windows ME, Windows Vista, Windows 8/8.1, Windows 10...
Reply #5 Friday, August 14, 2015 9:53 AM
I agree with everything said in that article except the last line:
"As iOS and Android apps get better and better, and iOS and Android tablets become closer and closer to replacing PCs, Windows will continue to lose relevance."
Tablets and phones will never replace PC's. When will the media just accept this? To prove my point, I challenge any of the PC doomsayers to try to build a moderately complex spreadsheet using a tablet or phone...
Reply #6 Friday, August 14, 2015 11:12 AM
I agree with everything said in that article except the last line:
"As iOS and Android apps get better and better, and iOS and Android tablets become closer and closer to replacing PCs, Windows will continue to lose relevance."
Tablets and phones will never replace PC's. When will the media just accept this? To prove my point, I challenge any of the PC doomsayers to try to build a moderately complex spreadsheet using a tablet or phone...
It seems more and more like they want that to be true, rather than just predict it will be true. It's certainly a bone they won't let go.
Reply #7 Friday, August 14, 2015 11:40 AM
Bottom line: MS Corp is a business. Anything that they can get away with to increase the Corp's bottom line is acceptable. We are not customers anymore. The days of the customer being 'always right' are history. There is no real personal element to business anymore - its all aggregates, statistics, vast numbers of 'commodities' both human and other. So MS's business model is not a failure - they still make fairly good profits, don't they?
Reply #8 Friday, August 14, 2015 12:35 PM
Tablets and phones will never replace PC's. When will the media just accept this? To prove my point, I challenge any of the PC doomsayers to try to build a moderately complex spreadsheet using a tablet or phone...
Tablet sales are actually in decline and PC sales are slowly on the rise.
Says who? Buggered if I know, but I did read it somewhere
Reply #9 Friday, August 14, 2015 3:59 PM
Hehe, yeap and I'll stick with W7 as long as I can.
it's going to be more and more difficult to install older os on new machines... pfft.. eg skylake has no native usb 2 support whilst win 7 installation disc has no usb 3 support.. .so you need to stick the win 7 iso into a usb drive and eh... use some driver disc to load the usb via usb 3 or something to install (... eh.. basically mod the installation media to load usb3 driver)... meanwhilst if you try to install win 7 via dvd drive instead, you'll need ps/2 port... for kb/mouse.. or some rubbish like that. (because the usbs won't work until install is done
)
or so i read.
Reply #10 Friday, August 14, 2015 5:33 PM
I like Windows 10 so far.
The media is always trying to make us believe in some Utopian society where we are all interfacing with a tablet. I have three tablets collecting dust since I can't find anything to do on them that is not easier and more enjoyable on a PC built by me. As far as sales comparisons, I wonder if they include PC parts in the numbers, vs just whole PC sales, since so many build their own.
Reply #11 Sunday, August 16, 2015 7:24 AM
I read somewhere that tablets are fast becoming dinosaurs.
PC's rule!
Reply #12 Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:49 AM
As a dinosaurs myself I just keep replacing the mobo when it dies and reload W7. I have extra drives and ram.
Reply #13 Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:33 AM
To sum up their current reasoning, I'm smart enough to use my Windows PC and my Android phone, but Microsoft thinks I'm dumb enough to want them to work the same way.
Reply #15 Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:35 AM
Slightly OT:
I predict within two iterations of Windows, the GUI will have been simplified to the point where there will only be two buttons:
SEARCH
BUY
The reason why MS wants PC's to be like tablets is because tablets are essentially little more than mobile purchase devices.
Reply #16 Sunday, August 16, 2015 6:01 PM
To sum up their current reasoning, I'm smart enough to use my Windows PC and my Android phone, but Microsoft thinks I'm dumb enough to want them to work the same way.
I read an article yesterday (forget where) and tablet sales are down. It seems that people are getting tired of them. Personally, I've never understood the attraction to tablets but I do carry a laptop for work (required) and at home I have my desktop PC and a nice 27" monitor. I agree totally that MS doesn't seem to get it. Windows 10 has been closely supervised by Bill Gates as he is the technology consultant overseeing Windows development so Windows 10 good or bad is on his shoulders. I totally agree with your thinking, psychoak. I do not want my PC to look and/or function like my cell phone either. If Windows 10 tanks, I am going to Linux.
Reply #17 Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:13 PM
I don't think tablets are dying out any time soon, they're a futuristic gadget just coming into usefulness if anything. It's immensely useful to have a tablet in a great many industries today. If you're running around doing a check list or something, even a small laptop is probably just a pain in the ass, a small tablet with a stylus is perfect. It's the replacement for the steno pad, the pocket calculator, etc. Millions of irritatingly cumbersome notebook sales went poof with the advent of tablets for people who are actually mobile, not just working from multiple locations. Replacing computers that weren't really being used is just a fringe benefit of the technology.
Once most people that want one have one, there's not much point in replacing one ten inch tablet made in the last few years with another if all you're doing is checking on your virtual social life, so sales aren't going to be so hot. My parents and siblings all have tablets, and the only one that does a damned thing with it of any significance makes a living writing corporate software. The rest are just reading the news and such, only reason to replace them is if one breaks.
Reply #18 Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:37 PM
Tablet sales are down because a great number of people have them and don't feel the need to upgrade to a new one. More of a problem that everyone has one and will upgrade only when they really need to.
Regarding Windows 10, it's a much better experience and I didn't hesitate updating all my PCs.
Reply #20 Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:26 PM
Nope. Much of that is overblown as usual from the tech "journalists". You aren't being "monitored".
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Reply #1 Friday, August 14, 2015 8:14 AM
Yep...looks like 'im...