If You Don't Think You Will Be Jumping to Win 10
Sunday, May 31, 2015 by Jafo | Discussion: Personal Computing
....and you'd rather Microsoft didn't push it down your throat....
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-in-windows-7-and-8/
Microsoft.... it's actually polite to ask.
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Reply #22 Monday, June 1, 2015 11:08 AM
It's not about 'reserving' it is about 'enthusiasm'.....same as that BS everyone went through with GMail 'invites'......"oh please give me one...I feel left out...my life is meaningless...I have no friends who will gift me one..."
Reply #23 Monday, June 1, 2015 11:55 AM
i hid one of them updates from last month (3035583) seeing as i know i won't be updating win 7 from this machine (going to use this licence in new machine.. whenever that is...) no nagware for me so far.
ps .. reserving is like pre-loading. (that is.. automatically d/led when it's available)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9317/microsoft-announces-that-windows-10-will-launch-on-july-29
Reply #24 Monday, June 1, 2015 12:24 PM
I'm just waiting to see how Ashes runs on dx11. Then I'll set up a dual boot with a real copy of 10, see how much better it performs in dx12, and figure out my upgrade plans from there. $530 bucks should go further than three years, ain't upgrading this Space Heater 680 unless it's absolutely necessary.
Irrespective of 10, 7 stays 7. I've got my 98SE and XP cd's still lying around for when I need them too.
Reply #25 Monday, June 1, 2015 1:01 PM
My updates are uninstalled and hidden. I like my 7 the way it is and don't need to be updated surreptitiously.
If I want a new o/s, I'll ask for it thankyou.
Reply #26 Monday, June 1, 2015 1:03 PM
Reply #27 Wednesday, June 3, 2015 9:06 AM
Oh dear, things aren't exactly as we may expect them to be, thus it must be a virus and/or spmething we must distrust.
Every time there is a new OS we heart/read the same bullshit about how it isn't for us, yet every time it is just opinions without any kind of substantial backup and data to verify anything. No, the mistakes of times past keep getting repeated and we keep cocking up because we refuse to believe we too are responsible for the mess that's been created through apathy.
OK....this time you're just plain nuts. The issue with this is NOT whether you wish one day to upgrade to 10 or not. I couldn't give a rat's arse either way what anyone wants to do.
What I DO care about is the 'subtle' misrepresentation of certain 'essential updates' as important to the OS/stability of the OS/protection of the OS.... when all they are is nag-ware to coerce you into Microsoft's next computer business model which apparently is not....buy it...and you get it....but....get it and then we have got YOU.
Then your life will be whatever commercial pay-per-use....pay-to-stay-working....whatever they care for.
This is the beginning of the 'NEW ORDER'.
Assimilate or die.
Resistance is futile...
Reply #28 Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:04 PM
and after I had removed said 'updates' AND hidden them, they were re-installed, I have since re-uninstalled and re-hidden the same 'updates' along with the 35 language packs that I had also hidden, but so far have not re -booted the computer to see if M$ is FORCING said 'updates' by any and ALL means.
harpo, the ghost NON-subscriber
Reply #29 Wednesday, June 3, 2015 8:54 PM
after checking my system I found the update is listed as security update KB2976978 but I removed all others and hid them for now
Has anyone heard or read what the update will do to your currently installed apps?
Reply #30 Thursday, June 4, 2015 4:56 AM
and after I had removed said 'updates' AND hidden them, they were re-installed, I have since re-uninstalled and re-hidden the same 'updates' along with the 35 language packs that I had also hidden, but so far have not re -booted the computer to see if M$ is FORCING said 'updates' by any and ALL means.
harpo, the ghost NON-subscriber
which windows? in win 7 nothing is automatically installed or forced if you set it to manual update...
Reply #31 Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:32 AM
yes, win7 32 bit and do have set to manual update, but automatic download
harpo, the ghost NON-subscriber
Reply #32 Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:00 AM
yes, win7 32 bit and do have set to manual update, but automatic download
Saves bandwidth to not pre-download stuff you might actually choose not to install.
Just have Update inform you if they are available....and don't even DL until you decide yes/no...
Control is everything...
Reply #33 Thursday, June 4, 2015 2:03 PM
I am not sure if this is the right thread to post this or not. But am I the only one who thinks installing a new OS over an old OS is just downright sloppy computer maintenance? And to that point isn't it a tad silly to install a new OS over programs that may or may not be compatible with the new OS?
If and when I am ready to switch to Win 10, I wil do it the old fashioned way. Format the drive and install fresh. No unncessary Windows 7 remanants left behind and the only programs that get installed will be programs I know work with Windows 10.
Yes I'll have to buy the OS and pay full price for it, but the peace of mind knowing it's done right and in a tidy fashion is well worth it to me, even if I have to buy 3 or 4 Win 10 licenses.
Reply #34 Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:30 PM
I am not sure if this is the right thread to post this or not. But am I the only one who thinks installing a new OS over an old OS is just downright sloppy computer maintenance? And to that point isn't it a tad silly to install a new OS over programs that may or may not be compatible with the new OS?
If and when I am ready to switch to Win 10, I wil do it the old fashioned way. Format the drive and install fresh. No unncessary Windows 7 remanants left behind and the only programs that get installed will be programs I know work with Windows 10.
Yes I'll have to buy the OS and pay full price for it, but the peace of mind knowing it's done right and in a tidy fashion is well worth it to me, even if I have to buy 3 or 4 Win 10 licenses.
I feel pretty much the same way, but I read that there was a way to clean install Windows 8 from an upgrade download, hopefully the same is tru of Win 10, cos I'd rather not pass up on the free upgrade of 2, possibly 3 machines. I need to find that article again, and hopefully I can, but the way it was done in Win 8 was to save the OS upgrade to disc, upgrade the installed OS, then migrate the upgrade only to a clean drive/partition using the product key of the old OS to validate the Win 8 installation. There is more to it than just that, but that's it in a nutshell.
Reply #35 Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:12 PM
Because of the logic of clean installing as an ideal I'd expect 10 will allow it exactly the same as any other OS release. Too many people prefer the method...
Reply #36 Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:51 PM
Thanks guys. If I can do a totally clean install and am confident my apps work on Win 10, free is always nice. I'll be watching to see how this unfolds. I'm in no hurry. In the meantime, I've uninstalled all the suspect updates and will update only those Windows 7 patches going forward that are for security for now. Everything else remains hidden until I am sure I know what I want to do.
The discussions on this forum have been quite informative and I thank everyone for that.
Reply #37 Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:02 PM
On my main rig I run Win7 Ultimate dual booted with Win8.1. I will keep it "as is" and have no desire to alter that setup. I need 8.1 for troubleshooting my family, friends and paying customers' rigs. I also have 300 GB's of games and other software, including ODNT, that run just fine and I'm happy with Win7 so I have no desire to let MS break my shit. Windows 7 is far from broken so I see no need to "fix" it.
On my secondary rig running Win7 Ultimate alone, I'm willing to gamble on a Windows 10 Upgrade path. I use it mostly as a media center in the living room, so it's non-essential and has nowhere near as much installed on it. Besides, I'll make a full image backup and if things go tits up, I can always nuke the thing and blow the image back into it. I reserved my upgrade.......take your best shot, Microsoft! 
Reply #38 Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:27 PM
DX12 is the only reason that I will eventually "upgrade" to win10. It's ugly as sin and poorly designed, but I only use windows for games, or (rarely) for work.
Reply #39 Friday, June 5, 2015 12:57 AM
Because of the logic of clean installing as an ideal I'd expect 10 will allow it exactly the same as any other OS release. Too many people prefer the method...
from what i read, only if you buy it retail... to get the free version, you'll need to upgrade an existing win 7/8/8.1 once.. then after, you can do clean installs on that machine... how? no idea. maybe you'll get a new product key during the process? maybe it's possible to abort it once you get the key?
yes, win7 32 bit and do have set to manual update, but automatic download
harpo, the ghost NON-subscriber
no idea.. i never installed one of the updates and hid it.. but the same update was offered previously as important before being re-offered as recommended. no nagware for me so far.
Reply #40 Friday, June 5, 2015 4:57 AM
Watch out for kb2952664 that's just come out. It's another sneaky back door that not only 'assists' updating to a newer version but also reports back to MS.
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Reply #21 Monday, June 1, 2015 11:04 AM
Just had that nasty little tray icon show up. Even though I "reserved" a copy of win10 (why does it need reserving? is the supply limited) the little icon is still there, annoying me...