One year later--is Microsoft "Trustworthy"?
Saturday, January 18, 2003 by Weaksid | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I got this in my e-mail and I thought I would share do the the fact that alot of us use Microsoft Products.
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-981015.html
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-981015.html
Peff
Reply #2 Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:16 AM
Reply #2 Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:16 AM
Make that 2 things Style....the PHD you need to configure and maintain those unix/linux systems... 
Styl-X Design
Reply #3 Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:19 AM
Reply #3 Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:19 AM
no, it's not as hard as evrybody say, ehm let me see, i thought it was mandrake 9.1 or some, realy awsome but ok, i've to commit, it hard to get used to something, however on my main machine i still run xp 
paxx
Reply #4 Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:09 PM
Reply #4 Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:09 PM
I just installed Red Hat 8.
Let me tell you, I am IMPRESSED. It came a long way.
And what blew me away is that the graphical interface is extremely friendly, and COOL looking. Even better than Windows.
A casual user could easily use Red Hat 8 without ever needing the command line. Linux has come a long way, and I'm very optimistic for the near future. Microsoft has better watch out.
Let me tell you, I am IMPRESSED. It came a long way.
And what blew me away is that the graphical interface is extremely friendly, and COOL looking. Even better than Windows.
A casual user could easily use Red Hat 8 without ever needing the command line. Linux has come a long way, and I'm very optimistic for the near future. Microsoft has better watch out.
snarph
Reply #6 Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:08 PM
Reply #6 Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:08 PM
so was install painless or did you have hardwar issues, does 8.0 do plug and play etc. ?
paxx
Reply #7 Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:58 PM
Reply #7 Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:58 PM
Well, my case is a little different because I installed it over Virtual PC, so hardware isn't taken into account. All the hardware is configured as "generic".
I plan to eventually install in as a double partition on my home computer, I'll know then.
I plan to eventually install in as a double partition on my home computer, I'll know then.
snarph
Reply #8 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:23 PM
Reply #8 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:23 PM
last linux i gave a try was turbo 7.0 i think a real pain even with setting up native linux partions before hand with partition magic the installer was not user freindly. How dose virtual pc funtion?
paxx
Reply #9 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:53 PM
Reply #9 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:53 PM
Setting up native partitions was painless with Red Hat's graphical installer.
Virtual PC creates a file and makes the guest OS think that it's a hard drive. From then on you can install any Linux or Windows OS an run it WITHIN your regular Windows session, in a window. Kinda cool.
It's a little slow, but since you can allocate exclusively the amount of RAM you want to your "Virtual PC", if you have lots of RAM, then it's much better. If I had 1 Gig of RAm, I could give 512 Megs to my Virtual PC and keep 512 to my normal Windows XP use. But since I only have 512 in total, I don't want to give more than 256 to Virtual PC and it's therefore a little slow.
I read recently that Wine can run painlessly Flash MX and Dreamweaver MX under Linux. Now these are the two applications in Windows that I can't do winthout. I'm going to test it and see if it's really true. If it is, then Windows may probably lose me. Of course, I'd keep Windows in a second partition, but if I can get Flash and Dreamweaver running, I'm ready to make Red Hat Linux my main OS.
Virtual PC creates a file and makes the guest OS think that it's a hard drive. From then on you can install any Linux or Windows OS an run it WITHIN your regular Windows session, in a window. Kinda cool.
It's a little slow, but since you can allocate exclusively the amount of RAM you want to your "Virtual PC", if you have lots of RAM, then it's much better. If I had 1 Gig of RAm, I could give 512 Megs to my Virtual PC and keep 512 to my normal Windows XP use. But since I only have 512 in total, I don't want to give more than 256 to Virtual PC and it's therefore a little slow.
I read recently that Wine can run painlessly Flash MX and Dreamweaver MX under Linux. Now these are the two applications in Windows that I can't do winthout. I'm going to test it and see if it's really true. If it is, then Windows may probably lose me. Of course, I'd keep Windows in a second partition, but if I can get Flash and Dreamweaver running, I'm ready to make Red Hat Linux my main OS.
snarph
Reply #10 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:56 PM
Reply #10 Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:56 PM
sounds interesting any thats what they make large drives nad 512 sticks for
paxx
Reply #11 Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:31 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, January 18, 2003 10:31 PM
You don't give a RAM stick to you Virtual PC. It's a slide bar: you give what you want. You can even change it when your Guest OS is off. Gotta know also that the memory allocation isn't permanent. Once your guest OS isn't on, you have full memory for your host OS.
kthxbye
Reply #12 Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:27 AM
Reply #12 Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:27 AM
I've got SuSE 8.0 sitting here on my notebook - and in fact, I've got it installed on my desktop too. I love it. SuSE is great - which is something you'll never hear me say about Linux (being a BSD fan, m'self,) and yet... I can't really remember the last time I've booted into it.
Styl-X Design
Reply #13 Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:45 AM
Reply #13 Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:45 AM
uhm, isn't suse linux?? what is your prefered desktop, kde or gnome?
Old_Crab
Reply #14 Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:57 AM
Reply #14 Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:57 AM
Back to the original querie. No. Old Crab trusts no one. >
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paxx
Reply #15 Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:40 AM
Reply #15 Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:40 AM
Red Hat 8.0 uses Gnome for it new "Blue Curve" interface. It's awsome.
By the way, the curious should watch the demo: http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/flash/redhat6_5.html (requires Flash)
By the way, the curious should watch the demo: http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/flash/redhat6_5.html (requires Flash)
kthxbye
Reply #16 Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:42 PM
Reply #16 Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:42 PM
Yup - to me, SuSE is /the/ Linux. Beats any offerings made by Mandrake or Red Hat by a landslide (Plus the professional version also comes on a nice, handy DVD as well - talk about a fast installation!)
As for Gnome or KDE? KDE 3 - hands no, no comparison. Ever since it came out, I won't even consider Gnome any more.
Give me KDE and bash and I'm a happy user.
As for Gnome or KDE? KDE 3 - hands no, no comparison. Ever since it came out, I won't even consider Gnome any more.
Give me KDE and bash and I'm a happy user.
kthxbye
Reply #17 Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:42 PM
Reply #17 Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:42 PM
Yup - to me, SuSE is /the/ Linux. Beats any offerings made by Mandrake or Red Hat by a landslide (Plus the professional version also comes on a nice, handy DVD as well - talk about a fast installation!)
As for Gnome or KDE? KDE 3 - hands no, no comparison. Ever since it came out, I won't even consider Gnome any more.
Give me KDE and bash and I'm a happy user.
As for Gnome or KDE? KDE 3 - hands no, no comparison. Ever since it came out, I won't even consider Gnome any more.
Give me KDE and bash and I'm a happy user.
kthxbye
Reply #18 Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:49 PM
Reply #18 Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:49 PM
Eep.
Sorry for the double posting. Finger slipped.
Sorry for the double posting.
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Reply #1 Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:05 AM
only 1 thing, all the games, programs and other stuff is made for windows, it dasn't run on linux, hehe, its their only rescue