Pocket PC vs Palm

Sunday, December 29, 2002 by KeepOn | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Good evening everyone. I would like to buy a Pocket PC or Palm. I would like to know is it worth the difference in price to my a Pocket PC. If people could give there thoughts, be gladly appriated. I don't know what to buy, or make or model...

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Doreen
Reply #21 Thursday, January 2, 2003 9:53 AM
yes much funner to skin them than to work on them
g'luck and take your time and check around, they are releasing newer models back to back lately anyways
craeonics
Reply #22 Thursday, January 2, 2003 10:17 AM
Good. Now let the price come down. I think these things cost twice as much over here, if I here you describe the rpices. Oi, and bigger screens!
KeepOn
Reply #23 Thursday, January 2, 2003 10:21 AM
Can't wait for newer ones.lol....I will never buy one. What model to you have?
Doreen
Reply #24 Thursday, January 2, 2003 11:06 AM
ipaq 3955 & Siemens SX56 my friend bought my older model off of me and since I work from home and use my stuff for work I claim my toys for work (and eat crackers & water until I get my refund)

if they are more expensive over there dutchy can't you order off a site in the states? the lower end HP ipaq h1910 is 299.00 which is not too bad & has a removable external battery (mine does not)
when they released that model the idea was to make them alil more affordable for everyone...
craeonics
Reply #25 Thursday, January 2, 2003 1:59 PM
To make them more affordable, they'll have to cut the price in halve. I think they are something in the €4-500 price range these days (which is just about the same in $, seeing € and $ are worth roughly the same). Still way too much.
Bangkokboy
Reply #26 Thursday, January 2, 2003 2:34 PM
mrbiotech made some good points, especially about batteries. my ipaq 3765 is an awful charger hog, though i've heard that the newer models were better about that. to work for extended hours on the go, i have to run with the backlight turned off. i made myself a special DB skin which looks good and is very readable with no backlight. i'm itching for a newer paq with a bigger battery.
craeonics
Reply #27 Thursday, January 2, 2003 2:45 PM
Can't find any Dutch info on the h1910, meaning it's not out here. Now let me spook you with some randomly picked prices (remember € is roughly equal to a $):

iPAQ H3970 €845
iPAQ H3950 €675
iPAQ H3870 €719
Toshiba e330 €666
Toshiba e740 €792
Fujitsu/Siemens PocketLOOX 600 €685
Fujitsu/Siemens SX54i €1006

Don't know what these run on, but they are cheaper:

Sony Clie PEG-SL10 €205
Sony Clie PEG-SJ30 €360
Sony Clie PEG-T625c €414
Sony Clie PEG-T675c €470
Sony Clie PEG-NR70v €545
Doreen
Reply #28 Thursday, January 2, 2003 4:19 PM
Hmmm the 3950 & 3955 are 599 over here right now... (even 45-50 dollars lower if you find a rebate)
the h1910 is 299 and that is the best price you will find anywhere for someting of that caliber
and having the removable battery feature alone is worth it too bad you don't have that model available by you to check out plus it's much sleeker then the more expensive models too.

Dutchy the Sony Clie's you listed below are palms, they are not the same at all though the latest Clie's are not bad at all (once you go pocket pc you will never go palm)
but if you've never had a pocket pc before the Clie will satisfy you hehe

The Siemens that I have is actually a phone w/ pocket pc (Here's quick pic, http://www.epinions.com/content_82492362372 yes ugly I know, but it gives me everything I need in my hand when I want to run away from the cave for a few hours to take my kids out or whatever, I just load my documents up and it has vibrator/ring for phone so yup I can even work in a Theater and then send the excel document to them via e-mail attachent (really neat devices when you know what to do w/ them)
Doreen
Reply #29 Thursday, January 2, 2003 4:26 PM
of course pcAnywhere is still my drawback for most the stuff I have to do since they still have no version of it yet available for ppc OS
but atleast this phone gives me "some" freedom! hehe
snowzone5
Reply #30 Friday, January 3, 2003 1:18 AM
i've got a palm IIIe, a visor, and a ipaq 3830 (i think that's the model)

i bought them all for the same reason, put my access book database on them, reading newsgroups, email on the road.

it was much easier putting the access database on the pocketpc. it's my portable database pda of choice now...i don't like the fact that i'm tied to outlook, but what can you do.

i think it's easier to get a pocketpc connected wirelessly then it is a palmpilot...i like the ipaq expansion options.

blogging is much easier for me on the pocketpc than it is on the palm.

i program for both of them using various languages, i find them about the same for programming...


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citats
Reply #31 Friday, January 3, 2003 2:15 AM
Doreen... I am not absolutely positive about this but... I am pretty sure there is a Pcanywhere for PPC... My friend used it on his Cassiopiea which ran CE 2.0 ... however that machine had a MIPS so it may not be compatible with ARM ... I will look into it and let you know... I know there is also another program that I have used its called Pebbles it is a freeware program for both palm and pocket pc http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~pebbles it is fully capable of remote desktop operations. give it a try.

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craeonics
Reply #32 Friday, January 3, 2003 8:52 AM
Still, they'll have to drop way below the 200 mark (right about to 150) before I am even tempted to get one.
citats
Reply #33 Friday, January 3, 2003 3:39 PM
Well on the issue of Pcanywhere for Pocket pc. At one time Symantec did make available a version that was compatible with MIPS and SH3 procs for HPC... even if you had a MIPS unit it would run off the screen of a PPC... Unfortunately Symantec found little in the way of sales for their first foray into the remote desktop PDA market... so they have dicontinued it.

Pebbles is a pretty good prog it can connect by IP address just like PCanywhere can, also it can connect by port. however being a freeware project it lacks some extra features and security.

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Doreen
Reply #34 Friday, January 3, 2003 10:59 PM
"Thank you" Static for that info, but unfortunetly the only way I'm allowed to enter is via pcAnywhere at the moment, I checked out that pebbles which is not bad at all, (I'm not sure it does file transfers back n forth via the remote to host but for free I'm sure most ppl could find use for it...

pcAnywhere is really not used as much as in the past these days so I doubt they would ever get w/ it in the direction of strong arm ppc's but I wish they would cuz boy could I use it.
JDavidHarper
Reply #35 Saturday, January 4, 2003 1:09 PM
The Dell Axim runs for $200 (after a $50 rebate). I might just get one...
KeepOn
Reply #36 Thursday, January 9, 2003 9:23 PM
Hi Doreen, I have ordered a Ipaq 3950 from HP Canada. The guy was really nice and explained the different models and features. I should be receiving my new toy in a couple days. There was a promotion, I shall be getting a 64M SD card and a car adapter for free.. Can you tell me where are the places to read up and find software for it. My first thing I want to get in there is Microsoft Access.

Have a nice day

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Doreen
Reply #37 Friday, January 10, 2003 12:06 AM
Good for you
the SD's go up to 512 now (can you just imagine that?) but you don't want to know how much, I can't handle even thinking about that price but I just got me a 128 SD not too long ago. okay now on to the business at hand...

First stop:
Leather
http://www.vajacases.com/pda_eng.htm

Must haves
WordLogic Keyboard
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformSearch.jsp?homePath=MICROSOFT&optionId=1_2_2&siteId=75&platformId=2&txtSearch=word+logic

Clear Type
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=1C8D21AE136ECAB15A5D3BB89621D921&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=26807§ionId=0&catalog=30

Battery Bar
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=1C8D21AE136ECAB15A5D3BB89621D921§ionId=0&catalog=0&productType=2&platformId=2&productId=24948

Best Browser
http://www.bitstream.com/index.html

Pocket Tweaker
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=1C8D21AE136ECAB15A5D3BB89621D921&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=24717§ionId=0&catalog=30

Useful & Cool
http://mtux.com/
http://mtux.com/update.aspx

Icon plug-in for Today Screen & icon app
http://www.dooblo.com/dooblodates/plugin.asp
http://www.pocketicon.com/

Skinnable Calendar
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=1C8D21AE136ECAB15A5D3BB89621D921&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=31304§ionId=0&catalog=30

Apps to animate your Today Screen
http://www.pocketfacelift.com/activetoday.html
http://www.comstudios.com/at/

Music
http://www.pocketwerks.com/description.php

Phone and GPRS Monitoring stuffezz
http://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=13F393ECAEAD56D57D2B924914769598&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=49201§ionId=0&catalog=30
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=1C8D21AE136ECAB15A5D3BB89621D921&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=43793§ionId=0&catalog=30
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=1C8D21AE136ECAB15A5D3BB89621D921&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=32633§ionId=0&catalog=30

Hopefully those links came out right & that should get you started...

Have fun
citats
Reply #38 Friday, January 10, 2003 12:12 AM
iPaq freeware! http://www.ipaqsoft.net/php/ppcfreeware.php

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Doreen
Reply #39 Friday, January 10, 2003 12:14 AM
Skinnable Calendar is wrong that app up there is to make your ppc look and behave just like windows (its bloated and un necessary don't get it you'll be sorry even w/ the Xscale processor it stinks)

This is the link to the Skinnable Calendar but don't let the funky ss fool you (if you have a good imagination & some skills you can skin that program into a masterpiece, cuz the "icons and bg and colors" are all completely skinnable)
https://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=1C8D21AE136ECAB15A5D3BB89621D921&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=25425§ionId=0&catalog=30
Doreen
Reply #40 Friday, January 10, 2003 12:17 AM
yes that freeware link is the bestest static!

(someone just turned me onto that recently I forgot about that one)

and of course there is pocketblinds right here at Wincustomize, Ian is working on another build soon

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