Message board expansion
Sunday, December 1, 2002 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Many tech sites have sprung up over the past couple of years.
And some of them have excellent message boards which I enjoy participating in. But at the same time, they always seem to attract a certain demographic of user that may not appeal to all people.
What I was wondering is, would there be any interest here in expanding the WinCustomize message boards to be much more useful as a larger discussion venue?
Or would you prefer to keep it the way it is where it's more of a smaller venue?
Either way is fine. The reason I ask is purely from personal experience, I like to be able to talk about software and technology based on merits and not whether it's free or cheap (example: I use Photoshop and Corel Draw, I don't like being yelled at for not going with a free solution or with PSP. I see that tendancy quite regularly where if it's not free, it's evil and I tend to value time over monetary cost).
I wrote an article on this actually:
https://www.joeuser.com/Articles/Timevs.Money.html
And some of them have excellent message boards which I enjoy participating in. But at the same time, they always seem to attract a certain demographic of user that may not appeal to all people.
What I was wondering is, would there be any interest here in expanding the WinCustomize message boards to be much more useful as a larger discussion venue?
Or would you prefer to keep it the way it is where it's more of a smaller venue?
Either way is fine. The reason I ask is purely from personal experience, I like to be able to talk about software and technology based on merits and not whether it's free or cheap (example: I use Photoshop and Corel Draw, I don't like being yelled at for not going with a free solution or with PSP. I see that tendancy quite regularly where if it's not free, it's evil and I tend to value time over monetary cost).
I wrote an article on this actually:
https://www.joeuser.com/Articles/Timevs.Money.html
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Third Eye
Reply #62 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 1:53 AM
Reply #62 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 1:53 AM
As long as you have the oprion to view all of the most recent posts I think it is a decent idea 
feline
Reply #63 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:27 AM
Reply #63 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:27 AM
Chef Garry - About the only thing I would get excited about is being able to view a thread from the last message read.
this already exists, and is reason number 2 for why i don't use the SB.
opening this thread in IE, the address end's:
id=80725#81196
80725 = the thread id
#81196 = jump to the last post in this thread i read.
it doesn't always work in IE, it seems IE is prone to getting upset while loading the page, so forgets to jump to the marker point at the end
Chef Garry - not the marathon - I don't have the nerve to go there
feline considers dragging you there, kicking and screaming if necessary
Chef Garry - Personally, I find personal icons distracting at best and often annoying, especially the active ones.
the few that exist here tend not to distract to much, and are rather cute, as Doreen has so kindly demonstrated *giggles*
this already exists, and is reason number 2 for why i don't use the SB.
opening this thread in IE, the address end's:
id=80725#81196
80725 = the thread id
#81196 = jump to the last post in this thread i read.
it doesn't always work in IE, it seems IE is prone to getting upset while loading the page, so forgets to jump to the marker point at the end
Chef Garry - not the marathon - I don't have the nerve to go there
feline considers dragging you there, kicking and screaming if necessary
Chef Garry - Personally, I find personal icons distracting at best and often annoying, especially the active ones.
the few that exist here tend not to distract to much, and are rather cute, as Doreen has so kindly demonstrated *giggles*
feline
Reply #64 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:40 AM
Reply #64 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:40 AM
JamMeister33 - Let's keep it as simple as possible, too many categories become too confusing to the uninitiated...
agreed
perhaps even default the board to not using categories? most posters seem to prefer the single list view
feline *wonders*
"the uninitiated"
feline starts thinking about initiation ceremonies involving chocolate!
agreed
perhaps even default the board to not using categories? most posters seem to prefer the single list view
feline *wonders*
"the uninitiated"
feline starts thinking about initiation ceremonies involving chocolate!
feline
Reply #65 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:59 AM
Reply #65 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:59 AM
goodmorphing - Oh, another nice feature is to have each post numbered.. one of thirty or something.
for a while we had this on the marathon thread, it was nice while we were chaising after post 1,000
T-man has since said that this isnt easy anymore due to changes in the message board.
however, it would be nice to have the option once more, if possible.
for a while we had this on the marathon thread, it was nice while we were chaising after post 1,000
T-man has since said that this isnt easy anymore due to changes in the message board.
however, it would be nice to have the option once more, if possible.
Chef Garry
Reply #66 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 10:05 AM
Reply #66 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 10:05 AM
Feline - I can't remember the last time I viewed this board through IE. SB doesn't (at least not that I've seen) go to the last message in a thread. I see your point here.
By personal icons, I'm not talking about the ones that Doreen, Chinagirl and Boxxi have. Those are pretty cool. But if you go to the Winamp boards (a thing I avoid almost as religiously as the marathon), you got all kinds of "dancing coffee cups" and the like. Big damn cups at that. That's the kind of thing I'd like to avoid here.
Agreed re the numbering - especially useful in tracking the last message read in a long thread.
By personal icons, I'm not talking about the ones that Doreen, Chinagirl and Boxxi have. Those are pretty cool. But if you go to the Winamp boards (a thing I avoid almost as religiously as the marathon), you got all kinds of "dancing coffee cups" and the like. Big damn cups at that. That's the kind of thing I'd like to avoid here.
Agreed re the numbering - especially useful in tracking the last message read in a long thread.
werewolf
Reply #67 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 10:27 AM
Reply #67 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 10:27 AM
When you go into a thread, at the top right of the window is a "Go To Bottom" link. It's very easy to get to the last post made. It would be nice to be able to get to the last post *read*.
Doreen
Reply #68 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 10:43 AM
Reply #68 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 10:43 AM
Hmmm what? Winamp boards have dancing coffee cups?
Doreen goes run over there! hehe
oh don't worry Chef wincusto will never have big dancing coffee cups, the atmosphere here is much too conservative for that, it would not fit in here at all...
(actually I was shocked we even got the lil icons but those don't really throw the site out of it's charactor too much)
maybe if the new changes are incorporated and members don't want sections/catagories or whatever happens, those could be checked off in the members profile preferences? so they can have the board as it was originally? that's an idea, then you can please everyone that way?
Doreen goes run over there! hehe
oh don't worry Chef wincusto will never have big dancing coffee cups, the atmosphere here is much too conservative for that, it would not fit in here at all...
(actually I was shocked we even got the lil icons but those don't really throw the site out of it's charactor too much)
maybe if the new changes are incorporated and members don't want sections/catagories or whatever happens, those could be checked off in the members profile preferences? so they can have the board as it was originally? that's an idea, then you can please everyone that way?
feline
Reply #69 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 11:21 AM
Reply #69 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 11:21 AM
werewolf - It would be nice to be able to get to the last post *read*.
feline *jumps up and down on werewolf*
if you read my earlier post on this, you *already* get this in IE.
hense the absense of SB icon under my posts. i can make one appear, but it is to much hastle
feline *jumps up and down on werewolf*
if you read my earlier post on this, you *already* get this in IE.
hense the absense of SB icon under my posts. i can make one appear, but it is to much hastle
werewolf
Reply #71 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 11:45 AM
Reply #71 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 11:45 AM
feline *jumps up and down on werewolf* 
I did understand your post, I just didn't present my suggestion very clearly. I would like to be able to do that in SB also
I did understand your post, I just didn't present my suggestion very clearly. I would like to be able to do that in SB also
Aqua.
Reply #72 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 12:30 PM
Reply #72 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 12:30 PM
I do like the idea of threaded threads and numbered posts.
feline
Reply #73 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 12:46 PM
Reply #73 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 12:46 PM
feline concedes the point to werewolf
it does seem totally bizarre that since SB is loading the message board in (what seems to be) an IE control, it cannot do the jump to last viewed tag, the way IE can *confused*
as for jumping up and down on you, feline thinks it was fun, so will do some more later
it does seem totally bizarre that since SB is loading the message board in (what seems to be) an IE control, it cannot do the jump to last viewed tag, the way IE can *confused*
as for jumping up and down on you, feline thinks it was fun, so will do some more later
werewolf
Reply #74 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 12:49 PM
Reply #74 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 12:49 PM
"as for jumping up and down on you, feline thinks it was fun, so will do some more later"
Aqua.
Reply #75 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 5:42 PM
Reply #75 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 5:42 PM
Interesting, I've seen a bunch of new goodies appear on the messageboard when viewed by the WC Browser that don't appear when I look at it in Netscape.
goodmorphing
Reply #76 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:58 PM
Reply #76 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 7:58 PM
Oh and another thing that we didn't want at first but which turned out kind of nice to have is the ability for an author to delete their own message. We kind of thought it would be disjointed at first, but the deletion leaves kind of a red "scar" (this message has been deleted by the author) or (this message has been deleted by the manager or assistant manager). The threads are still coherent, everyone knows the thread is altered, and the person who posted something incorrect can have a chance to make the post right.
JamMeister33
Reply #77 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:01 PM
Reply #77 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:01 PM
Now you're talking sense! How do you delete a comment you made?
goodmorphing
Reply #78 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:04 PM
Reply #78 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:04 PM
well, thas is on another board. There is a button to delete your message. The outline of the post is still there with a notation. The content is just gone. Here it would probably show up over the B or U if they did it.
JamMeister33
Reply #79 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:05 PM
Reply #79 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:05 PM
'kay.... I want to be able to do that here!
JamMeister33
Reply #80 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:06 PM
Reply #80 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 8:06 PM
Maybe I could stay out of trouble a little easier...
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Reply #61 Tuesday, December 3, 2002 1:47 AM