..Exiled?...IP ban??

Friday, November 22, 2002 by Lord Vimal | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

hey how do you do this?
i think the admins have the 'power' to exile anyone..
but whats the use? one can create ANOTHER account right?

but whats IP ban? how does it work? IP address changes everytime when u login into the internet right? (for dialups )

so...?
Angel_Wings
Reply #1 Friday, November 22, 2002 11:23 PM
Yeah, if you don't have a static I.P. it's kind of difficult I think?

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migellito
Reply #2 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:00 AM
i can see you through your monitor.
bakerstreet
Reply #3 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:03 AM
only part of your IP changes, if you come from the same ISP. the can ban a block of IP addresses and you would have to change the IP substantially. Deviantart once banned all AOL users to get the job done. Dunno if they ever opened that back up.

Anyway, it would suck and be a miserable embarassment to have that done, wouldn't it? Why risk it?
Frogboy
Reply #4 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:08 AM
What bakerstreet said.

We've done it before quite successfully.

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Angel_Wings
Reply #5 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:19 AM
What about people who often use proxy servers????????? (I don't btw)

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bakerstreet
Reply #6 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:49 AM
I don't know about ASP, but it's easy to see the real requesting IP with PHP, regardless of proxy server.

Anyway, if he did come up with a few dozrn totally new IP addresses, the only reason he would have would be to come back and post here. Then they would ban that IP, and so on, and so on. After a while it would seem futile, considering nothing he posted would stay up more than 5 minutes anyway.
bakerstreet
Reply #7 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:51 AM
That was vague. My point was that it would be ten times the work for him to post than it would be to delete it, and no one would really ever see it anyway.
bakerstreet
Reply #8 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:52 AM
Doreenosis:

in PHP it would be:

if (getenv(HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR)){
$ip=getenv(HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR);
}
Angel_Wings
Reply #9 Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:15 AM
TY for the explanation Auggie

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bakerstreet
Reply #10 Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:19 AM
yup, that's me

np
Angel_Wings
Reply #11 Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:34 AM
Do you read alot bakerstreet? I find it hard to make time for my daughter and reading and computer stuff etc. and I really need to read more. *sigh*



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bakerstreet
Reply #12 Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:41 AM
Not as much as I would like. I just try to carry something with me all the time. Waiting to pick up my little girl from school, when I'm cooking something that I can't walk away from, etc. I keep a lot of ebooks on my laptop, too. It usually adds up to enough time to finish something every couple of weeks. I think it would do me wonders if I made more time, though. What I would really like to have more time for is other languages.
Angel_Wings
Reply #13 Saturday, November 23, 2002 2:10 AM
That's great Auggie, sounds like you're doing better, much better than me! I kick myself that I don't read as voraciously as I used to. Ever since my very first computer (about 4 years ago) I've been a total tech-head which can be good and bad. Sometimes I realize that the hardest off switch is my own internal one (computer-wise and even emotional wise at times).

I guess I sort of miss the days when I didn't have my PC even though I know now I'd be sorry as heck without it but back in my "computer innocence" days...I was just a different person.

What am I saying? I guess I was trying to say, in trying to develop my computer skills I’ve lost a wee bit of myself in the process and now I’m working to integrate my inner computer geek with my true self. If that EVEN makes any sense


My daughter is my only child and she's 15 years old! She's as good with a computer as me almost...(apple don't fall...farrr arrr arr *cued an echo for effect)...

Auggie, I bet your daugher is around 7 years old?

I bet she's precious

Just glanced at the puter clock! I'm up late!

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bakerstreet
Reply #14 Saturday, November 23, 2002 2:23 AM
close. 6 actually, first grade.
Angel_Wings
Reply #15 Saturday, November 23, 2002 2:26 AM


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jark
Reply #16 Saturday, November 23, 2002 3:38 AM
we never banned AOL from deviantART. what we did do, however, is ban AOL users from signing up for new accounts. the existing accounts that were being used by AOL users remained intact and any AOL IP could browse the site.
craeonics
Reply #17 Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:14 AM
Actually, 'Auggie', I think any decent proxy server has an option to not include a redirect header. The webserver doesn't need it, 'cos it communicates with the proxy, not the machine behind that, so it's purely optional.
Hell Dragon
Reply #18 Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:34 AM
Some proxy servers are setup in 'anonymous' mode where all headers and tags are stripped away therefore hiding the original origin of the request.

In this circumstance it would be very difficult to know exactly who was requesting the data. However this can easily be solved by simply banning the IP of the proxy itself... harsh, but it would do the trick.
bakerstreet
Reply #19 Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:26 PM
jark: my apologies, I misunderstood.

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