Bullsh*t
Sunday, November 3, 2002 by Jadachris2003 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have been a member of this website for almost a year and a half. And ever since I have been coming here, I NEVER got a "Server Too Busy" error message. But all of a sudden, when they started subscriptions mind you, NOTHING can be downloaded and all I get is a "Server Too Busy" message. If you guys are going to turn this to a subscription only website, do so, don't toy with loyal members by putting up these BULLSH*T error messages.
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feline
Reply #22 Monday, November 4, 2002 11:52 AM
Reply #22 Monday, November 4, 2002 11:52 AM
there is always plan B, which i have also done.
i once (a long time ago) got promoted past the bandwidth cap by my scandalous waste of this sites bandwidth! all those helpful and constructive posts on the message board were sufficient
got to love the irony that by using up bandwidth i contributed, so got to use up even more bandwidth
short version for lazy readers - you can get promoted without spending any money, and even without submitting skins.
oh yes, Jadachris2003 i even subscribed even though i dint download many skins. i just love this place, and owe them for many many happy hours over the last year or two since the site opened.
i once (a long time ago) got promoted past the bandwidth cap by my scandalous waste of this sites bandwidth! all those helpful and constructive posts on the message board were sufficient
got to love the irony that by using up bandwidth i contributed, so got to use up even more bandwidth
short version for lazy readers - you can get promoted without spending any money, and even without submitting skins.
oh yes, Jadachris2003 i even subscribed even though i dint download many skins. i just love this place, and owe them for many many happy hours over the last year or two since the site opened.
feline
Reply #23 Monday, November 4, 2002 11:57 AM
Reply #23 Monday, November 4, 2002 11:57 AM
Lecrayon - I stand by my words that IF this site is only ACCESSIBLE FOR customers and SUBSCRIBERS, work I submit is NOT FREE.
this is MY understanding of the sites policy:
when the sites resorces are running out members who have PAID to support, get priority access to the resorces.
when the site isnt overloaded, there is no need for this rule to be applied.
where else are the extra resorces supposed to come from to handle an ever increasing number of visitors?
DA uses popup adds
as part of their solution. personally, i prever WC's solution.
this is MY understanding of the sites policy:
when the sites resorces are running out members who have PAID to support, get priority access to the resorces.
when the site isnt overloaded, there is no need for this rule to be applied.
where else are the extra resorces supposed to come from to handle an ever increasing number of visitors?
DA uses popup adds
as part of their solution. personally, i prever WC's solution.
Koasati
Reply #24 Monday, November 4, 2002 11:59 AM
Reply #24 Monday, November 4, 2002 11:59 AM
I have to back Boxxi up on this one, Lecrayon. No one has to buy anything, it's not a requirement to access this site. But, this IS a very busy site, and if you don't wish to chip in, by contributing in some way, you'll get shut out some times.
Lecrayon
Reply #25 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:02 PM
Reply #25 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:02 PM
Thanks feline, that is reasonable. That's way different than closing down this site for visitors. 
jebland
Reply #27 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:04 PM
Reply #27 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:04 PM
Well, after being locked out "not a registered user" for four days, looks like I'm back.
Koasati
Reply #29 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:12 PM
Reply #29 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:12 PM
Here's a shocker for you........... I am an OD subscriber, and have Journeyman access here...........sometimes, I can't get the site to load at all. Why? Because the server is REALLY busy! 
feline
Reply #30 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:12 PM
Reply #30 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:12 PM
Lecrayon - Thanks feline, that is reasonable. That's way different than closing down this site for visitors.
part of the problem is that the regulars get fed up explaining the same thing again and again and again
also, as the head of this thread demonstrates quite well, often the questions aren't exactly phrased as polite enquiries.
after all we are only human (well, apart from the occasional exception) and we all get fed up with the rants and complaints.
part of the problem is that the regulars get fed up explaining the same thing again and again and again
also, as the head of this thread demonstrates quite well, often the questions aren't exactly phrased as polite enquiries.
after all we are only human (well, apart from the occasional exception
) and we all get fed up with the rants and complaints.
Aqua.
Reply #31 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:14 PM
Reply #31 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:14 PM
We need to set up a F.A.Q. page.
If nothing else, at least then we can copy&paste our answers
If nothing else, at least then we can copy&paste our answers
BoXXi
Reply #33 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:19 PM
Reply #33 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:19 PM
I don't understand why you find this so difficult to comprehend. This site is accessible to anyone. It is a very busy site and the bandwidth gets eaten up very quickly. This isn't some sub-plot to exclude anyone, it's just the way it is.
Personally I don't care about the user who has a cracked copy of WindowBlinds, and has been downloading skins for over a year and suddenly finds that his supply has been diminished. Note that I said diminished and not "cut off". People who enter into the community will always benefit, as I'm sure you are doing.
And I am not angry, I don't get angry. This is my hobby, I come here to enjoy myself. I don't make any money from any of this,(well, sometimes a little, on occasion) I just like doing what I do.
The point I want to make is this: If you are not happy with the way the site is run, you are free to join another community site that satisfies your ideals. You don't have to make skins if you are worried that you are lining other people's pockets.
Just try to enjoy it for what it is.
Personally I don't care about the user who has a cracked copy of WindowBlinds, and has been downloading skins for over a year and suddenly finds that his supply has been diminished. Note that I said diminished and not "cut off". People who enter into the community will always benefit, as I'm sure you are doing.
And I am not angry, I don't get angry. This is my hobby, I come here to enjoy myself. I don't make any money from any of this,(well, sometimes a little, on occasion) I just like doing what I do.
The point I want to make is this: If you are not happy with the way the site is run, you are free to join another community site that satisfies your ideals. You don't have to make skins if you are worried that you are lining other people's pockets.
Just try to enjoy it for what it is.
Aqua.
Reply #34 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:22 PM
Reply #34 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:22 PM
BoXXI, just what DID you do to that poor little dragonlet?
feline
Reply #35 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:35 PM
Reply #35 Monday, November 4, 2002 12:35 PM
the answer to that exists in the "shame on Boxxi thread"
Lecrayon
Reply #37 Monday, November 4, 2002 1:09 PM
Reply #37 Monday, November 4, 2002 1:09 PM
BoXXi, you know I applaud the effort admis and moderators take to run this site. I stated more than once I love this site. I get shocked sometimes when these error threads come up, and just try to do factfinding. Most of the suggestions I make are non-egotistical. But every time I get an answer, it is personalized towards me. It might be my choice of words, I am not english. What I am seeking is sometimes a bit more variety in things (eg the featured skins, but all what is thought is that I want to be there, again, not true), and above all, free access to everyone. About that money part, I am not interested in money, more in general, (and there we go again) I think that when visitors are policywise excluded you can't argue it's a free site. Since feline cleared this up it's irrelevant.
paxx
Reply #38 Monday, November 4, 2002 2:45 PM
Reply #38 Monday, November 4, 2002 2:45 PM
Lecrayon, as it has been explained, everybody has access to material here. But the site really gets busy at times, and increasingly so. There were times last week when we had over 1200 users (registered users - without counting the anonymous downloaders) loged on at the same time. That is HUGE!
When the site gets too busy and the bandwidth saturated, it's normal the the ones who contribute get priority.
When the site gets too busy and the bandwidth saturated, it's normal the the ones who contribute get priority.
Frogboy
Reply #39 Monday, November 4, 2002 6:23 PM
Reply #39 Monday, November 4, 2002 6:23 PM
There is no "policy" of locking users out.
You can take the ThemeXP route and just have the site be down for EVERYONE after a certain point is reached.
OR you can take the WinCustomize route of giving priority to customres and subscribers when that point is reached.
I can't understand why this isn't apparent. When the # of people on the servers reaches a certain point, SOMEONE is going to be denied access. That's just reality. That's not policy. But we have the unique ability to decide who is going to be denied access. So we give priority to people who help pay for said servers.
Those people who don't want to contribute anything can simply visit during non-peek hours.
You can take the ThemeXP route and just have the site be down for EVERYONE after a certain point is reached.
OR you can take the WinCustomize route of giving priority to customres and subscribers when that point is reached.
I can't understand why this isn't apparent. When the # of people on the servers reaches a certain point, SOMEONE is going to be denied access. That's just reality. That's not policy. But we have the unique ability to decide who is going to be denied access. So we give priority to people who help pay for said servers.
Those people who don't want to contribute anything can simply visit during non-peek hours.
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Reply #21 Monday, November 4, 2002 11:49 AM