Had to get rid of Firefox

BSOD's

Monday, October 14, 2013 by LightStar | Discussion: Personal Computing

Well, after many years of using Firefox, I had to get rid of it and I guess I'll use IE until I find something better. It seems Firefox has been crashing systems with a BSOD since at least version 20.  People have complained in the forums, but no one at Mozilla seems to care evidently. My system has crashed 10 times now while using Firefox, and if the creators apparently aren't going to fix it, I am not going to use it.

Anyone else getting BSOD's when using Firefox (v20-v24) on Windows 7?

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HG_Eliminator
Reply #21 Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:42 PM

I became quite adept at BSODs over the years....I could crash anything....usually by toying with shells..

 

 

hehehe

alaknebs
Reply #22 Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:33 PM

not bsod. but my firefox has been crash happy for quite a while now (months?) .... maybe to do with that reloadplus.... or maybe something else entirely

LightStar
Reply #23 Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:57 PM

Well, I ran complete and extensive memory checks on my PC, both system memory and video memory, and there were no errors at all. Since I reinstalled Firefox fresh yesterday I have noticed a lot of improvements and fixes in areas where I was having issues before. So I guess every so often it might be a good idea to uninstall it, run a registry cleaner, and then reinstall with the latest version rather than totally relying on updates. I also turned off the hardware acceleration and I have had no crashes or BSOD's since. I also turn off hardware acceleration in IE. Here's hoping all is well!

frankell
Reply #24 Tuesday, October 15, 2013 5:03 PM

before to Standby or Hibernate the OS always close Firefox (my restart after the Standby is only lasting 20 seconds well spent)

daily check this page http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ and keep all the plugins updated

and ... if you like the Tabs Previews resting on a Dock (autohide) use my new Stylish style http://userstyles.org/styles/94040/topsidebar-tabspreview-dock

BTW only on Firefox !

 

LightStar
Reply #25 Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:56 PM

Thanks for the info frankell, I already keep all my add-ons up to date though. Not too sure about the dock, I am really basically a minimalist kinda guy. Nice looking though!

Jafo
Reply #26 Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:00 PM

LightStar
I am really basically a minimalist kinda guy. Nice looking though!

Myopia runs rampant through his genes....

LightStar
Reply #27 Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:57 PM

OK, had another BSOD, and using the WhoCrashed software Jim recommended it showed it being caused by my video drivers. So then I rolled back the drivers and installed the latest drivers from nVidia for my GTX560 cards, turned on SLI, and then re-enabled hardware acceleration in Firefox and IE since that evidently wasn't it. Now we shall wait and see ...

Chibiabos
Reply #28 Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:59 AM



Quoting Chibiabos, reply 16Firefox has become very unstable over the years... a few BSODs

Usermode software on modern versions of Windows cannot directly cause a BSOD. If it can, then that's a bug/vulnerability in the kernel or drivers. BSODs tend to pretty universally be due to driver bugs or hardware faults.

Except I only got them using Firefox watching live streaming video, and got several of them per day.

Watching the same video streaming (from the same streaming sites) on Chrome, I did not incur BSODs.

bodadog
Reply #29 Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:44 AM

I also am using Pale Moon x64 . I have Google also but it runs much slower than Pale Moon. Google sometimes does not load web pages correctly, but that is on my system, not everyone has same problem , Firefox in the past crashed quite a few times than I found Pale Moon and it runs flawlessly on my PC , but like I said before not everyone will have the same result on there PC. If your running 64bit you could try these Waterfox, Cyberfox, or maybe Nightly. I have tried them all and they seem to work great with Windows 7 64bit O.S Hope you find the problem alot of times it is something simple at-least in my case .

kryo
Reply #30 Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:04 AM

Chibiabos
Except I only got them using Firefox watching live streaming video, and got several of them per day.

Watching the same video streaming (from the same streaming sites) on Chrome, I did not incur BSODs.

The firefox media plugins could be making slightly different calls and hitting some bug in the hardware video acceleration. It's impossible to say without actually looking at the BSOD, but the fact remains that FF can't be causing it directly.

gmc2
Reply #31 Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:55 AM

side question, help please.

my version of FF has flash disabled. I noticed that in a post above that frankell has flash updated and enabled. How do I update flash so that FF will recognize it. I can't find an update listed within the FF add-ons.

frankell
Reply #32 Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:07 AM

Well Flash is not an Addon but a Plugin

using Firefox you can activate Flash going here (copy and paste in your address bar)

about:addons

then on the left side click on Plugins

to update just click the following link

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/

click on update and when in the Adobe page pay attention to uncheck the MCAfee optional offer

As  I did I suggest to create 2 Bookmarks pointing to the 2 links !

gmc2
Reply #33 Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:05 PM

frankell
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/

click on update and when in the Adobe page pay attention to uncheck the MCAfee optional offer

I can get that far. Sorry I used the incorrect terms.

In the add-on manager flash it is showing as disabled (ver. 11.5.502.110), clicking on the update button takes me to a notification page that states that flash for certain versions has been disabled and not available. It doesn't provide me with an updated version or link to one.

Maybe a link to the newer FF version?

LORD-ORION
Reply #34 Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:22 PM

One thing that has been causing a massive number of Blue screens in Firefox is the newer Nvidia drivers on the 4xx series of cards.

If you have an Nvidia card, reinstall driver ver 314.22. 

Nvidia drivers have been absolutely awful lately on their older cards.

LightStar
Reply #35 Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:32 PM

I have the GTX560 cards, installed the latest drivers for them from nVidia and so far so good. (Crosses fingers).

frankell
Reply #36 Friday, October 18, 2013 1:59 AM


In the add-on manager flash it is showing as disabled (ver. 11.5.502.110), clicking on the update button takes me to a notification page that states that flash for certain versions has been disabled and not available. It doesn't provide me with an updated version or link to one.

Maybe a link to the newer FF version?

here you go for the newer Firefox 24.0 (official stable version)

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/

and the system req. for the last Flash Player 11.9.900.117 are :

Microsoft® Windows®

  • Microsoft® Windows® XP (32-bit) Windows Server® 2003 (32-bit) Windows Server 2008 (32-bit) Windows Vista® (32-bit) Windows 7 (32-bit and 64-bit)
  • 2.33GHz or faster x86-compatible processor, or Intel® Atom™ 1.6GHz or faster processor for netbooks
  • 128MB of RAM
  • 128MB of graphics memory
  • Internet Explorer 7.0 and above Mozilla Firefox 4.0 and above Google Chrome Safari 5.0 and above Opera 11

click here to check

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

captainmoonlight
Reply #37 Friday, October 18, 2013 4:38 AM

"LIGHTSTAR" give Ice Dragon a try you,  have security of Comodo and flexibility of fire fox that's my default  browser .

Or pale moon both good browsers.

 

gmc2
Reply #38 Friday, October 18, 2013 5:57 AM

frankell
click here to check

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/[/quote]

thanks for the link, that worked. I usually leave flash disabled but there are some news stories that are in flash so occasionally I need it. I use a add-on to convert youtube into html5.

LightStar
Reply #39 Friday, October 18, 2013 10:32 AM

I now have a great new web browser. Based on Mozilla, faster than Firefox, PaleMoon or IE and can use all Mozilla addons, including ADBlock. You can even scan an entire website with it for malware links or anything else unsafe with Web Inspector (built-in), and it even uses its own secure DNS servers if you elect to use them. The standard interface will work with any WB skin as far as I can tell too. Thank you frankell!

frankell
Reply #40 Friday, October 18, 2013 2:00 PM

maybe I'm a late ...

but just in case I was going to suggest to install the IceDragon portable version ( so you will never affect the Firefox resident\default )

Portable mode must be selected during the installation process

see here http://help.comodo.com/topic-169-1-413-4903-portable-version.html

 

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