server busy -- this site is really bad
Friday, September 27, 2002 by NecroticisM | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
think of the logic.. if the servers busy.. it makes people keep trying and trying until they get through... MORE TRAFFIC...... morons run this place
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c242
Reply #22 Sunday, September 29, 2002 2:09 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, September 29, 2002 2:09 PM
All that people whoning about paying should go here http://www.themexp.org and never come back. Stuff is free there and it takes You only one hour to log in... 
c242
Reply #23 Sunday, September 29, 2002 2:10 PM
Reply #23 Sunday, September 29, 2002 2:10 PM
And that happens with 28 people on that site. Great, huh ?
wombat_1
Reply #24 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:10 PM
Reply #24 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:10 PM
fooncha,no such thing as a 'free lunch',in the long run you either put up or shut up. 
$20.00 is no big deal.
$20.00 is no big deal.
brazil
Reply #25 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:27 PM
Reply #25 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:27 PM
I guess I must have slept thru the day when it was decided Art is given away for free.There is some great fun here.The whole package less than 100$ for 2 years.I think we would get even better stuff from our favorites if Stardock paid them for their work.
Lecrayon
Reply #26 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:29 PM
Reply #26 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:29 PM
I am just wondering if there has been a study about this. How often do people that are non-subscribers get 404? If it is as bad as some has stated here, isn't it a bit unfair, that works from people, freely submitted here, get a lower chance of being seen by visitors? Just a thought...
WOM
Reply #27 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:39 PM
Reply #27 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:39 PM
Lecrayon, visitors only see ratings of 7 or above. It doesn't matter about the 404.
Lecrayon
Reply #28 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:43 PM
Reply #28 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:43 PM
So? You mean the rating that is given by moderators, or the latest rating. And I don't see a connection between that and not being able to access.
sig101
Reply #29 Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:11 PM
Reply #29 Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:11 PM
How many site with really heavy traffic suffer from significant slow downs and occasional 404's? (For example, I clicked on a link to themexp to see something and gave up and I'm on broadband.)
Is it unfair of those site owners that they don't get additional servers and increased bandwith? If they do, they need some revenue source to support the expenditures.
Also, I thought all registered Stardock app users also got priority access here, or is it only WC subscribers that get priority access?
At any rate, would it be more fair if all users couldn't access and use the site during peak traffic times?
Frankly, I don't feel guilty if my 0.83 cents a month gives me a better chance of access while the site uses that revenue to buy more servers and pay for bandwidth to improve things for all users. If people really can't afford to subscribe then they are in the same situation as I am on sites with heavy loads and no other alternative means of attaining access.
Is it unfair of those site owners that they don't get additional servers and increased bandwith? If they do, they need some revenue source to support the expenditures.
Also, I thought all registered Stardock app users also got priority access here, or is it only WC subscribers that get priority access?
At any rate, would it be more fair if all users couldn't access and use the site during peak traffic times?
Frankly, I don't feel guilty if my 0.83 cents a month gives me a better chance of access while the site uses that revenue to buy more servers and pay for bandwidth to improve things for all users. If people really can't afford to subscribe then they are in the same situation as I am on sites with heavy loads and no other alternative means of attaining access.
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #30 Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:38 PM
Reply #30 Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:38 PM
im not complainin or anything, but i haven't been able to download anythiong for over 2 weeks, i have an account and im goin to get around and buy a subscribtion im just sayin the traffic has gotten so high its been 2weeks since i have been able to dl anything, i always get the server is busy messege, im just pointing this out,
sig101
Reply #31 Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:33 PM
Reply #31 Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:33 PM
Super: try emailing the site admins as advised above. I know I used to be able to access and download without problems when I wasn't even logged in. I haven't tried lately, though. Site traffic went up considerably after WB being featured on Tech TV, but to not be able to download anything in two weeks sounds really bad.
SuperheroCanadian
Reply #32 Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:05 PM
Reply #32 Sunday, September 29, 2002 10:05 PM
yea i know, i only can get wallpapers, becasue u can just right click those, it makes it really hard to learn skinning when u have nothing to learn from 
Ill be sure to e-mail in
Ill be sure to e-mail in
Frogboy
Reply #33 Monday, September 30, 2002 4:04 PM
Reply #33 Monday, September 30, 2002 4:04 PM
C-net (download.com, hotfiles, winfiles, etc.) has started charging people to submit their files to them.
Just to keep things in perspective.
Just to keep things in perspective.
moshi
Reply #34 Monday, September 30, 2002 4:56 PM
Reply #34 Monday, September 30, 2002 4:56 PM
hm, i don´t think you can compare a skin site with download.com. a lot of the content there is shareware, so the uploaders hope to gain some profit from being hosted there. anyways, might be an interesting poll to see how many people are willing to pay for uploading here. i wonder if these payed uploads would still be moderated 
foonacha
Reply #35 Monday, September 30, 2002 10:19 PM
Reply #35 Monday, September 30, 2002 10:19 PM
Ok Wombat_1. I`ll shut up. Pointing out a migration-path from what used to be a free service to Ob Desktop users- & being forced onto a pay-model to get skins freely available elsewhere is a no-win arguement for me on this site anyway.
I wonder how many other people will be as disappointed in this development as I am?
I wonder how many other people will be as disappointed in this development as I am?
Frogboy
Reply #36 Monday, September 30, 2002 10:42 PM
Reply #36 Monday, September 30, 2002 10:42 PM
ODNT users have no restrictions. In fact, no Stardock customer, regardless of how small the purchase, faces no restrictions. And on top of that, they get priority access to the bandwidth.
Only users who have not purchased anything whatsoever and have citizen access or lower face any sort of restrictions.
Moshi: Most files on Download.com are freeware. In fact, I spoke to C-net on this today and I seem recall the figure being 3/4ths of files being freeware.
Only users who have not purchased anything whatsoever and have citizen access or lower face any sort of restrictions.
Moshi: Most files on Download.com are freeware. In fact, I spoke to C-net on this today and I seem recall the figure being 3/4ths of files being freeware.
T-Man
Reply #37 Tuesday, October 1, 2002 3:33 PM
Reply #37 Tuesday, October 1, 2002 3:33 PM
"I too purchased object Desktop from Stardock - but that doesn`t stop the main problem of how the hell you get anything to download off this site anymore. For the last couple of weeks, I havn`t been able to download one windowblinds skin. Not one. Pretty disappointing. "
Hey my car doesn't work right. Fix it! Can you be any more vague?
Maybe its your ISP?. Maybe you are having connection timeout? Maybe you have saved them to your harddrive but forgot where? Maybe you do not have the appropriate software install to view the skins? Maybe you have ran out of drive space? Maybe you are using an extremely old browser and its not compatable? Maybe your hard drive is full and you cannot save the file? Maybe you are using a Mac instead of a PC? Maybe there was a server error? Maybe your cache drive is full? Geeesh, there could be literally thousands of reasons you cannot download. Maybe its against your religion. But without a clue as to what the symptoms are how is the problem supposed to be resolved. I know. Lets just blame someone else and say they are doing it on purpose just to get your money! Yea thats the problem. Can't be anything else can it?
Hey my car doesn't work right. Fix it! Can you be any more vague?
Maybe its your ISP?. Maybe you are having connection timeout? Maybe you have saved them to your harddrive but forgot where? Maybe you do not have the appropriate software install to view the skins? Maybe you have ran out of drive space? Maybe you are using an extremely old browser and its not compatable? Maybe your hard drive is full and you cannot save the file? Maybe you are using a Mac instead of a PC? Maybe there was a server error? Maybe your cache drive is full? Geeesh, there could be literally thousands of reasons you cannot download. Maybe its against your religion. But without a clue as to what the symptoms are how is the problem supposed to be resolved. I know. Lets just blame someone else and say they are doing it on purpose just to get your money! Yea thats the problem. Can't be anything else can it?
Jafo
Reply #38 Tuesday, October 1, 2002 5:53 PM
Reply #38 Tuesday, October 1, 2002 5:53 PM
What T-Man is saying is that there MUST be a logical reason for your inability to DL and it has nothing to do with some form of restriction or alienation from the site, considering you're an OD subscriber.
As with any problem-solving, it requires systematic 'error verification/elimination'.
Me?....I blame them Commies...
As with any problem-solving, it requires systematic 'error verification/elimination'.
Me?....I blame them Commies...
mad_cat
Reply #39 Tuesday, October 1, 2002 10:53 PM
Reply #39 Tuesday, October 1, 2002 10:53 PM
I used to love this site...
Server Busy makes me
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Server Busy makes me
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esco san
Reply #40 Wednesday, October 2, 2002 12:28 AM
Reply #40 Wednesday, October 2, 2002 12:28 AM
mad cat, I'm a bit confused. I am pretty sure all of the stardock software expires after a certain number of days or uses. If you bought any of the software you have no chance of getting a server busy message. You say you used to love this site, I'm sorry if I'm understanding wrong but sounds like you've been here a little while. After this while how can you still be using new skins? Unless of course you are using a hacked version in which case you deserve server busy 24/7. Then again maybe you're not using a stardock product, in that case you should contact the people who made the product for possible free downloads.
Why is everybody always complaining about free stuff.
Why is everybody always complaining about free stuff.
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Reply #21 Sunday, September 29, 2002 4:45 AM