Wincustomize to charge?!?!?!
Friday, August 2, 2002 by Danamal | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Now now... I know full well how much it costs to run a big website... I do it myself. I don't charge people money to download things from me. I know that advertising could pay the dues of running this site two or three times over. Now, you might say that you dont want the site cluttered by advertising... but you just ask the people out there if they would rather fork over $20 for something that used to be free or have to close some annoying popup windows everyonce in a while... I would, in fact, be happy to pay if I saw some real benefit... I don't.
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Frogboy
Reply #22 Saturday, August 3, 2002 10:27 PM
Reply #22 Saturday, August 3, 2002 10:27 PM
unique visitors. The site gets millions of page views.
There are something like > 50,000 users (accounts) who have downloaded over 50 megabytes.
There are something like > 50,000 users (accounts) who have downloaded over 50 megabytes.
WOM
Reply #23 Saturday, August 3, 2002 10:39 PM
Reply #23 Saturday, August 3, 2002 10:39 PM
Frogboy, I guess that if you had all the windowblind skinners include a wallpaper, you probably could close the wapllpaper section down or at least shrink it considerably. Just a thought.
Frogboy
Reply #24 Saturday, August 3, 2002 10:48 PM
Reply #24 Saturday, August 3, 2002 10:48 PM
YEa, the wallpaper section is always a tough call.
However, I can't imagine closing it. One of the appeals of WinCustomize is the knowledge that artists and skin authors can submit their work and know it's safe and sound and under their control.
But I think ultimtaely there's no real way around the continued growth of customization in general. We knew it would grow after Windows XP came out but not to this level. We now get nearly 5X the traffic from a year ago.
However, I can't imagine closing it. One of the appeals of WinCustomize is the knowledge that artists and skin authors can submit their work and know it's safe and sound and under their control.
But I think ultimtaely there's no real way around the continued growth of customization in general. We knew it would grow after Windows XP came out but not to this level. We now get nearly 5X the traffic from a year ago.
Lurchlee
Reply #25 Sunday, August 4, 2002 2:23 AM
Reply #25 Sunday, August 4, 2002 2:23 AM
to be honest I'm suprised you don't sell some of these skins...I would gladly pay a couple of bucks for some of them...and I'm a registered ObjectDesktop user.
kith
Reply #26 Sunday, August 4, 2002 9:31 AM
Reply #26 Sunday, August 4, 2002 9:31 AM
Lurchlee,
there are some outstanding skins for sale at a reasonable price here:
http://www.pixtudio.com/index.php3?page=suite&SuiteID=487
there are some outstanding skins for sale at a reasonable price here:
http://www.pixtudio.com/index.php3?page=suite&SuiteID=487
MikeB314
Reply #28 Sunday, August 4, 2002 10:37 AM
Reply #28 Sunday, August 4, 2002 10:37 AM
Yeah, communism just wasn't working out. Sorry, thenakedpage. 
KW88
Reply #30 Sunday, August 4, 2002 12:03 PM
Reply #30 Sunday, August 4, 2002 12:03 PM
Just a thought how about an auction for a exclusive suite, I don't know if it would work but I think it would be fun. 
BoXXi
Reply #31 Sunday, August 4, 2002 12:16 PM
Reply #31 Sunday, August 4, 2002 12:16 PM
Wiseoldman: You close the wallpaper section, and people like me will go elsewhere. 
WOM
Reply #32 Sunday, August 4, 2002 12:20 PM
Reply #32 Sunday, August 4, 2002 12:20 PM
I guess we had better leave it open. 
I'd still find your works no matter where you went. 
I'd still find your works no matter where you went. 
BoXXi
Reply #33 Sunday, August 4, 2002 3:26 PM
Reply #33 Sunday, August 4, 2002 3:26 PM
I didn't mean for that to sound threatening, It's just that wallpapers are very important to me, and they're the part of the site I enjoy the most, as can be seen by the fact that I have about 150 walls on here. 
WOM
Reply #34 Sunday, August 4, 2002 4:53 PM
Reply #34 Sunday, August 4, 2002 4:53 PM
BoXXi. I knew what you meant and you do those walls very well. I got some. I do like the one you have up now.
Jafo
Reply #35 Sunday, August 4, 2002 5:25 PM
Reply #35 Sunday, August 4, 2002 5:25 PM
The walls won't be going anywhere.......without them, what would hold up the roof?....
WOM
Reply #36 Sunday, August 4, 2002 5:36 PM
Reply #36 Sunday, August 4, 2002 5:36 PM
If you are in paradise who needs a roof, just ask GoodMorphing. 
Jafo
Reply #38 Sunday, August 4, 2002 6:47 PM
Reply #38 Sunday, August 4, 2002 6:47 PM
And Pink was played by Geldof...and HE didn't like Mondays....
Frogboy
Reply #39 Sunday, August 4, 2002 7:19 PM
Reply #39 Sunday, August 4, 2002 7:19 PM
Humor mode on:
Everytime I see one of these posts on some site where the user is complaining that something isn't free I always think about what the basic issue really is:
Some guy, somewhere, is ticked off thinking that someone (not them) is getting rich.
I always want to respond to those posts with a "Hey buddy, that jet fuel doesn't pay for itself!"
Because isn't that really the bottom line? That some guy somewhere thinks that someone connected to the site is making mega bucks. I just can't imagine that anyone would want someone to lose their home and be on the streets in order to keep the site free so therefore they must assume that someone connected to the site in question is already rich and is now just trying to squeeze the poor users for more money to help pay for their extravagant life style.
So yea, T-man's limo driver doesn't work for free and those guys who clean my yacht don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts...
Everytime I see one of these posts on some site where the user is complaining that something isn't free I always think about what the basic issue really is:
Some guy, somewhere, is ticked off thinking that someone (not them) is getting rich.
I always want to respond to those posts with a "Hey buddy, that jet fuel doesn't pay for itself!"
Because isn't that really the bottom line? That some guy somewhere thinks that someone connected to the site is making mega bucks. I just can't imagine that anyone would want someone to lose their home and be on the streets in order to keep the site free so therefore they must assume that someone connected to the site in question is already rich and is now just trying to squeeze the poor users for more money to help pay for their extravagant life style.
So yea, T-man's limo driver doesn't work for free and those guys who clean my yacht don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts...
UBoB
Reply #40 Sunday, August 4, 2002 7:27 PM
Reply #40 Sunday, August 4, 2002 7:27 PM
Frogboy,
I can get you a really good deal on yacht cleaners. (Just in case you were considering cutting back for the good of the community.)
And Jafo,
....but Geldof's solution was to "shoot the whole day down". A little drastic!
I can get you a really good deal on yacht cleaners. (Just in case you were considering cutting back for the good of the community.)
And Jafo,
....but Geldof's solution was to "shoot the whole day down". A little drastic!
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Reply #21 Saturday, August 3, 2002 10:16 PM