Windows FX 5

Sunday, June 3, 2012 by esqlagoon | Discussion: OS Customization

Hey Guy's,

   I love this software however I'm having problems with the final version.  The Beta version worked well on my machine.  Now that

I have upgraded to the main version my NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT keeps stopping and then recovering.   This happens when

I'm making choices in a window IE:  file/new folder etc.  Or when just opening windows the program crashes.  I certainly love

the effects and the Beta version provided stunning visual effects that I'm used to with a Linux distro.  I have removed and re-installed

however same problems.   Just keeps sticking.   It would be great to see a fix for this.   Here is my machine details:

 

Windows 7 Pro  64 bit OS

Processor: AMD 64  x2  6000+  3.10 GHz

Ram: 4GB

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT  

  Driver Updated to try and correct however it still did not provide solution:  May 2012  8.17.13.142

 

Let me know if there is an update to correct this issue.  I would love to continue using this software in the future with Windows OS's.

 

brad

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Neil Banfield
Reply #1 Monday, June 4, 2012 9:28 AM

Do you happen to know the last beta you used?  Was it the RC build?

You mention the program crashes, which program is crashing?  Is there any information in the event log that might say what crashed and why?

Are you using the open menu animations?  If so could you try disabling them and see if that helps.

Regarding the video driver stopping responding, unfortunately this is always a bug in the video driver / hardware glitch.

Neil Banfield
Reply #2 Monday, June 4, 2012 9:41 AM

Update on this, we have heard the 285.62 driver works fine and it may be a new bug in their newer drivers.

esqlagoon
Reply #3 Monday, June 4, 2012 8:04 PM

Thank-you for reccommeding a solution.  The dialogue windows are the ones just getting hung up when I try and click on file / open or any other

option when using the dialogue windows.   Yes I'm using the open menu animations however will start with making that change. 

Once I'm back in town I will try the alternative driver and let you know how that works if the open menue change does not work. 

 

I'm not sure which RC build I had downloaded however I do recall that I downloaded this only 3 weeks ago.  There was only one beta

to download during that time.

 

Thanks again for the quick response, very much appreciated !

 

brad

 

TwoWolves
Reply #4 Monday, June 11, 2012 6:00 PM

I'm using driver 296.10 with a GTX 280 and I am getting regular blue-screens with the final version.

 

Like this chap, the beta was fine for me.

 

I've had to turn Win FX off as I have work to do - shame about that, I liked it.

Neil Banfield
Reply #5 Monday, June 11, 2012 9:00 PM

TwoWolves
I'm using driver 296.10 with a GTX 280 and I am getting regular blue-screens with the final version.

 

Like this chap, the beta was fine for me.

 

I've had to turn Win FX off as I have work to do - shame about that, I liked it.

Do you happen to recall if you installed the RC build or not?  That is the build that introduced the desktop icons features and menu open animations.

Also have you changed video drivers recently?

Unfortunately a driver crash like this is always caused by the video driver having a bug and so far we have been unable to cause a single machine to crash in this manner.  The nature of this kind of issue is that they may appear at random due to unrelated changes such as speeding up or slowing down a section of code which means a timing bug gets shown up in the drivers that was not shown before.  The final build may be faster or slower in various areas than the betas.

ddraney
Reply #6 Monday, June 11, 2012 9:09 PM

I'm having an issue with it disabling Desktop Window Manager on every reboot....

Neil Banfield
Reply #7 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:17 AM

ddraney
I'm having an issue with it disabling Desktop Window Manager on every reboot....

Are you sure it is WindowFX causing that as yours is the first report we have ever had of that and WindowFX does not start or stop the DWM itself.

Are you running any other tools like WindowBlinds, TuneUp Utilities or something of that nature?

esqlagoon
Reply #8 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:01 AM

Hi Neil,

I have taken your recommendation and removed my newest driver for the NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT.
Once the driver recommended was installed 285.62 version,  all Windows FX options have been working
with no more video hangups.

Hopefully that will assist others with the same types of issues.

Thanks again for the recommendation.


brad

Neil Banfield
Reply #9 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:34 AM

Anyone with the video hangup issues, how many monitors do you have?

Also which animations did you have in use?

ddraney
Reply #10 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:18 PM

@Neil ;Could be windowblinds too, not sure. I just know that since disabling windowfx, the problem stopped. Could it be possible running both windowblinds and windowfx at the sametime be a problem?

StevenAus22
Reply #11 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:39 PM

Well, I've got both of them installed at the moment and I'm not getting the problems you describe, so if so running them together is not a problem for everyone.

ddraney
Reply #12 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:48 PM

I just tried it again w/ windowfx. Running into the same problem. Disabled it, and everything's fine....so i can't help but think it's got something to do with windowfx.

Neil Banfield
Reply #13 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:45 PM

ddraney
I just tried it again w/ windowfx. Running into the same problem. Disabled it, and everything's fine....so i can't help but think it's got something to do with windowfx.

Is there anything in the event log about the Desktop Window Manager from around startup?

It could be some odd interaction between things.

ddraney
Reply #14 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:47 PM

I'll check and report back to you.

ddraney
Reply #15 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:13 PM

I see in the event log the following :

Log Name: Application
Source: Desktop Window Manager
Date: 6/11/2012 8:27:55 AM
Event ID: 9003
Task Category: None
Level: Information
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Darren-PC
Description:
The Desktop Window Manager was unable to start because a composited theme is not in use
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Desktop Window Manager" />
<EventID Qualifiers="16384">9003</EventID>
<Level>4</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-06-11T15:27:55.000000000Z" />
<EventRecordID>4264</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Darren-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
</EventData>
</Event>

TwoWolves
Reply #16 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:11 PM

Neil Banfield

Quoting TwoWolves, reply 4I'm using driver 296.10 with a GTX 280 and I am getting regular blue-screens with the final version.

 

Like this chap, the beta was fine for me.

 

I've had to turn Win FX off as I have work to do - shame about that, I liked it.

Do you happen to recall if you installed the RC build or not?  That is the build that introduced the desktop icons features and menu open animations.

Also have you changed video drivers recently?

Unfortunately a driver crash like this is always caused by the video driver having a bug and so far we have been unable to cause a single machine to crash in this manner.  The nature of this kind of issue is that they may appear at random due to unrelated changes such as speeding up or slowing down a section of code which means a timing bug gets shown up in the drivers that was not shown before.  The final build may be faster or slower in various areas than the betas.

 

Hi Neil,

 

Yes. I installed the RC build and with this video driver version. I do keep my drivers fairly up-to-date but I've been using this version a while now. Nevertheless the RC build did give me the odd blue-screen; whereas final is not usable.

 

 

 

Neil Banfield
Reply #17 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:43 PM

TwoWolves
Quoting Neil Banfield, reply 5
Quoting TwoWolves, reply 4I'm using driver 296.10 with a GTX 280 and I am getting regular blue-screens with the final version.

 

Like this chap, the beta was fine for me.

 

I've had to turn Win FX off as I have work to do - shame about that, I liked it.

Do you happen to recall if you installed the RC build or not?  That is the build that introduced the desktop icons features and menu open animations.

Also have you changed video drivers recently?

Unfortunately a driver crash like this is always caused by the video driver having a bug and so far we have been unable to cause a single machine to crash in this manner.  The nature of this kind of issue is that they may appear at random due to unrelated changes such as speeding up or slowing down a section of code which means a timing bug gets shown up in the drivers that was not shown before.  The final build may be faster or slower in various areas than the betas.

 

Hi Neil,

 

Yes. I installed the RC build and with this video driver version. I do keep my drivers fairly up-to-date but I've been using this version a while now. Nevertheless the RC build did give me the odd blue-screen; whereas final is not usable.

 

 

 

You need to switch to the 285 drivers which apparently are ok. There is something wrong in the 295 and 300 series drivers on some systems, though we have yet to reproduce any issues here.

CarGuy1
Reply #18 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:28 PM

I'm having a similar issue as ddrainey. I'm running the latest beta of Windows Fx and it seemes to be clashing with the Desktop Windows Manager. When I unload Windows FX, the system works fine.

I've had the following Desktop Windows Manager error codes log today...

9003, 9002, 9007

This all started when I rebooted the system. I lost aero which caused Windows Blinds to load the classic Windows theme and DeskScapes not to run.

I was running the ATI 12.4 drivers and updated to the 12.6 beta drivers today which did not help.

I am running Windows 7 64 bit with dual monitors and an ATI 6870 1GB video card.

Here are the versions of software I'm using.

The latest version of Windows FX 5

Fences Pro v1.1.0.419

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 7.1
Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 7.8

WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 7.4 (320 - Windows 7 Edition) - 64 bit OS

WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
() 1 is attached to AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
(LG E2340(HDMI)) 2 is attached to AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series

Wblind.dll       2012/04/11 12:31:20
Wblind64.dll      2012/04/11 12:31:05
Wbsrv.dll      2011/09/26 15:10:56
SevenConfig.exe      2012/04/10 18:38:58
Wbload.exe      2010/10/20 16:08:35
Wbhelp.dll      2011/10/04 10:01:37
Tray.dll           2009/10/23 20:12:19
Wbload.dll           2010/06/07 15:59:25
Screen.exe      2010/06/07 15:59:43

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 7.1
Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 7.8

DeskScapes appears to be activated on this PC
DeskScapes engine appears to be running
() 1 is attached to AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
(LG E2340(HDMI)) 2 is attached to AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series

Deskscape.dll               2011/11/01 15:10:18
Deskscapes.dll                2010/09/27 11:06:03
DreamControl32.dll              2009/11/09 17:10:17
DeskscapesConfig.exe               2011/11/01 15:10:45
UI\Deskscape.dll             2011/10/26 13:13:21
UI\DeskscapesVideo.dll      2009/10/24 13:04:54
DreamTasks.exe                2010/09/24 14:01:26
DeskscapesVideo.dll           2010/01/19 18:02:22

 

 

TwoWolves
Reply #19 Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:57 PM

Neil Banfield

You need to switch to the 285 drivers which apparently are ok. There is something wrong in the 295 and 300 series drivers on some systems, though we have yet to reproduce any issues here.

 

Thanks Neil, that has resolved the instability and I'm able to run WinFX again.

 

Hopefully you'll have a work around (or Nvidia a fix) by the time I upgrade to a 600 series card. 

 

Neil Banfield
Reply #20 Friday, June 15, 2012 3:43 AM

TwoWolves
Quoting Neil Banfield, reply 17
You need to switch to the 285 drivers which apparently are ok. There is something wrong in the 295 and 300 series drivers on some systems, though we have yet to reproduce any issues here.

 

Thanks Neil, that has resolved the instability and I'm able to run WinFX again.

 

Hopefully you'll have a work around (or Nvidia a fix) by the time I upgrade to a 600 series card. 

 

Honestly based on my experience with nvidia cards over the years it might be worth looking into ATI/AMD graphics cards.

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