Apple slams door on Windows themes
Saturday, February 16, 2002 by kith | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Looks Like ThemeXP.org has removed two themes in response to Apple:
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-838943.html?tag=dd.ne.dht.nl-sty.0
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-838943.html?tag=dd.ne.dht.nl-sty.0
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JavaBrain
Reply #22 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:21 AM
Reply #22 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:21 AM
Oh, AJ, if you only knew the verbiage that flies around here......the sarcasm is very thick.....
feline
Reply #23 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:29 AM
Reply #23 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:29 AM
JavaBrain - yeah...programmers and their God complexes.....
feline agree's
*humans*
no sence of perspective.
feline is waiting for humans to remember that cats are the true gods
feline agree's
*humans*
no sence of perspective.
feline is waiting for humans to remember that cats are the true gods
feline
Reply #24 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:44 AM
Reply #24 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:44 AM
Jafo - To be a 'God' is one thing...
To be a 'Godess' is something else entirely...
well, according to dictionary.com these seem to mean the same.
of course, i did use "goddess" as the second word
feline feels all light headed and unsteady
quite a surreal feeling, me correcting Jafo's spelling
To be a 'Godess' is something else entirely...
well, according to dictionary.com these seem to mean the same.
of course, i did use "goddess" as the second word
feline feels all light headed and unsteady
quite a surreal feeling, me correcting Jafo's spelling
feline
Reply #25 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:48 AM
Reply #25 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:48 AM
feline decides to be both a God and a Goddess at once
this still leaves more of my wonderousness unacounded for.
feline *deep contemplation*
feline also declares self supreme ruler of all chocolate everywhere
this still leaves more of my wonderousness unacounded for.
feline *deep contemplation*
feline also declares self supreme ruler of all chocolate everywhere
feline
Reply #27 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:15 AM
Reply #27 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:15 AM
Mr AJCrowley - In your line of work JavaBrain, knowing that your peers frequent this board, that was probably not a good thing to say
feline *snigger*
i dont know JavaBrain well enough to be certain, but i doubt she has much to fear from her colleges.
a while ago a lady was working in the same room as all the (male) programmers at work. so 5 males v 1 female in the converstation.
since these arent the worlds most sophisticated minds, the conversation is normally in the gutter.
over about 2 years, the single female "won" conversations against all of the men about 75% of the time.
remember, programmers tend to have a certain logical mind set and structured way of thinking. this makes them suseptable to a multiproged "female" mentality logical attack
feline *snigger*
i dont know JavaBrain well enough to be certain, but i doubt she has much to fear from her colleges.
a while ago a lady was working in the same room as all the (male) programmers at work. so 5 males v 1 female in the converstation.
since these arent the worlds most sophisticated minds, the conversation is normally in the gutter.
over about 2 years, the single female "won" conversations against all of the men about 75% of the time.
remember, programmers tend to have a certain logical mind set and structured way of thinking. this makes them suseptable to a multiproged "female" mentality logical attack
feline
Reply #28 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:18 AM
Reply #28 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:18 AM
returning vaguely to the topic, i wonder if apple will ever get excided about all the OB themes that seem dedicated to replicating its *look*.
Doreen
Reply #29 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:49 AM
Reply #29 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:49 AM
in my line of work feline, right now I only have to deal w/ the dominate males at work one day a week, but I have a set of very very small ear plugs that I pop in when things get out of hand... hehe
Jafo
Reply #30 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:42 PM
Reply #30 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:42 PM
Feline....'accounted'...'colleagues' [just re-asserting my position after the 'godess' debacle]...
Doreen....'dominant'...
Doreen....'dominant'...
migellito
Reply #31 Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:19 AM
Reply #31 Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:19 AM
hey all just an fyi..
you can get into a mac via catalogs at around $800
the lowest price on the latest right from apple is 1299, and it's quite impressive. that's comparable to prices from dell, gateway, etc.
when you get one, you get both os9 and osx. you can choose to install them on separate partitions, the same partition, and even run them concurrently
my 2+ year old 400mhz mac runs osx about as fast as a 1.2gig pc running win xp
the only time i have -ever- restarted my machine since installing osx was to move it and for some of the system updates.
of course, you can't currently get 3dmax or autocad for either os9 or osx... in the end, i guess it depends on some of your 'must have' software.
how's everybody doing, by the way?
just an fyi..you can get into a mac via catalogs at around $800
the lowest price on the latest right from apple is 1299, and it's quite impressive. that's comparable to prices from dell, gateway, etc.
when you get one, you get both os9 and osx. you can choose to install them on separate partitions, the same partition, and even run them concurrently
my 2+ year old 400mhz mac runs osx about as fast as a 1.2gig pc running win xp
the only time i have -ever- restarted my machine since installing osx was to move it and for some of the system updates.
of course, you can't currently get 3dmax or autocad for either os9 or osx... in the end, i guess it depends on some of your 'must have' software.
how's everybody doing, by the way?
paxx
Reply #32 Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:35 AM
Reply #32 Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:35 AM
You're pushing it a little migellito, but it's true that Macs are faster and more expensive. A 400 Mhz Mac is in no way comparable to a 1.2 Ghz PC, but yes, a 800 Mhz G4 is indeed comparable in speed to a 1.2 Ghz P4. Macs are generally 50% faster than PCs. As for your prices, I'll have to disagree. I can get a good 1.8 Ghz P4 for about 1,400$ CA, where the equivalent on a Mac would be a 933 Mhz PPC G4 at 3,700$ CA. Sure those crappy iMacs are cheap now. You can get a 400 Mhz iMac for 1,300$ CA, but I would never buy those piece of crap; besides I can also get a 800 Mhz P3 for about 700$ CA.
Now considering the OS, it's quite simple: it sucks. It keeps freezing and crashing. It's just as bad as Windows ME, for cripes's sake. Every version I have ever worked with since Mac OS v.6 (or was it 5?, not sure) has always been shaky. And BTW, yes I know what I'm talking about. I'm in charge of fixing people's computer problems at work and we have both PCs and Macs.
Now considering the OS, it's quite simple: it sucks. It keeps freezing and crashing. It's just as bad as Windows ME, for cripes's sake. Every version I have ever worked with since Mac OS v.6 (or was it 5?, not sure) has always been shaky. And BTW, yes I know what I'm talking about. I'm in charge of fixing people's computer problems at work and we have both PCs and Macs.
Catherine
Reply #33 Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:56 AM
Reply #33 Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:56 AM
actually paxx he might have been pushing it just a bit but a 400mhz g4 mac IS comparible to a 1ghz pc. an 800mhz g4 is comparable to a 1.8ghz p4 and the 1ghz g4 well it can kick around a 2ghz p4. I'm not even going to get into the dual 1ghz in performance. It's all in the architechture of the chip.
JavaBrain
Reply #36 Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:28 AM
Reply #36 Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:28 AM
Ok, so you get the speed=whatever (not going to debate, because it really doesn't matter)
What about cost versus the cost of an equal PC?
What about actual software available for the OS?
Of course, I really don't like Macs....never did. i had an Apple clone back in the Apple II days, and I didn't like that, either. I keep trying them, and still don't like them. I'm not an MS advocate, either. But, I'll take XP over OSX any day. Of course, i do have a lot of desktop enhancements running right now...I'm not even sure what XP looked like to begin with anymore....
What about cost versus the cost of an equal PC?
What about actual software available for the OS?
Of course, I really don't like Macs....never did. i had an Apple clone back in the Apple II days, and I didn't like that, either. I keep trying them, and still don't like them. I'm not an MS advocate, either. But, I'll take XP over OSX any day. Of course, i do have a lot of desktop enhancements running right now...I'm not even sure what XP looked like to begin with anymore....
paxx
Reply #37 Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:34 AM
Reply #37 Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:34 AM
JavaBrain: Apple make superior computers, and that's a fact. I'm sure what you say you don't like about Macs isn't the machine but the OS. I don't like the OS either.
If I was rich enough to buy a good dual 1Ghz G4 and could uninstall the Mac OS and install XP instead, now that would be the dream computer!
(and yes, I know you can run Windows with Virtual PC, but then you loose in performance what you gained with having an Apple computer in the first place)
If I was rich enough to buy a good dual 1Ghz G4 and could uninstall the Mac OS and install XP instead, now that would be the dream computer!
(and yes, I know you can run Windows with Virtual PC, but then you loose in performance what you gained with having an Apple computer in the first place)
migellito
Reply #38 Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:45 AM
Reply #38 Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:45 AM
paxx - i've used both doing the same things, and my imac g3 400 at home did them at about the same speed as the 1ghz [sorry, i said 1.2 earlier] that i had for awhile at work. as far as the os, yes os9 and its predecessors suffered from frequent crashes. such is the life of shared memory. you should try osx though. as i said, in the months that i've had it installed, it has never crashed. not once. others i know using osx get the same performance. and most definitely, the reason i like osx is not because of how it looks, or the perfect smoothness of the gui animation. it's the power it has. the things it does automatically. the way drivers are handled. the choices it gives me for file management. the ease and speed of all software installation and removal [and the completeness of that removal.] the ability to go to a command line and control things i can't control from a dos command line.
as far as software, the ms office suite for x is written far better than the windows version. the only popular titles i can think of which aren't on x yet are autocad, 3dmax, maya and access. maya is on the way, and is shaping up to be far superior to the windows version. the others have comparable counterparts, one of which [filemaker pro] is often preferred to access after people have tried both.
but we have a windows machine too - much of our children's software is win only. unfortunately, it's -still- not online (basically due to the fact that comcast is the embodiment of all evil.)
as far as software, the ms office suite for x is written far better than the windows version. the only popular titles i can think of which aren't on x yet are autocad, 3dmax, maya and access. maya is on the way, and is shaping up to be far superior to the windows version. the others have comparable counterparts, one of which [filemaker pro] is often preferred to access after people have tried both.
but we have a windows machine too - much of our children's software is win only. unfortunately, it's -still- not online (basically due to the fact that comcast is the embodiment of all evil.)
craeonics
Reply #39 Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:31 AM
Reply #39 Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:31 AM
Oh christ, not a mac versus pc discussion... I think I prefer the religious discussions on DevArt.
By the way, Maya is evil, it crashed my XP.
By the way, Maya is evil, it crashed my XP.
JavaBrain
Reply #40 Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:39 AM
Reply #40 Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:39 AM
You mean computers aren't a religion? Hmmm...I think some people will disagree
Yeah, three things not to talk about: religion, politics, and Mac vs. PC (hey, if we are going to debate, though, can I through in OS/2 and Linux?)
Yeah, three things not to talk about: religion, politics, and Mac vs. PC (hey, if we are going to debate, though, can I through in OS/2 and Linux?)
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Reply #21 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:17 AM
To be a 'God' is one thing...
To be a 'Godess' is something else entirely...