Thrills! Chills! and uh... well, you just have to see

Monday, December 3, 2001 by Third Eye | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

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http://www.segway.com.edgesuite.net/consumer/home_flash.html

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Third Eye
Reply #21 Wednesday, December 5, 2001 4:01 PM
Yes it is "neat" but seriously, how much more lazy do we need to get? Already so many will just get in their car and drive 2 blocks to go to a corner store... Hello?!!

I am all about gadgets and gizmos but I have to agree with Crea on this and say that it is certainly not an advancement in human transportation. It is more like an advancement in human laziness. Yes it has it's purposes and it will definitely help the disabled immensely but as far a person that has no problem walk... Get out and get some exercise!



But I do have to say if they have an option to trick it out then give me the mud tires and the hydraulic suspension! I'm takeing this baby off road!
Frogboy
Reply #22 Wednesday, December 5, 2001 4:35 PM
I'm going to get one as soon as they're available for us mere mortals. I live in suburbia and there are all sorts of stores and other things that I would like to go to without a car.

I have a bike (I ride my bike a lot and would continue to) but I don't feel comfortable riding my bike in the city areas because of cars and my own...lack of confident in my ability to keep from getting creamed.

For me this thing's main attraction is control. Ease of moving. I'm not willing to walk 2 miles to the video store or comic book store or grocery store to pick up a few things and I hate currently having to drive my car on a nice day for only 1 or 2 miles.
paxx
Reply #23 Wednesday, December 5, 2001 5:17 PM
OK, so you get to the store... What do you do with the device? Can't leave it outside, at the price it costs! Can't really bring it inside either, it's too big and heavy...
No again, I see 3 problems with this device before it can be considered acceptable: too heavy, too big, too expensive.
But, what's wrong wth riding your bike to the store again? I didn't understand that part... Too dangerous?? How is the Segway safer than a bike? You'd have to ride in the street too, since it could be hazard to pedestrians on the sidewalk.
But again, as I said to BoXXi, this is a free world, you can waste your money the way you want.
Third Eye
Reply #24 Wednesday, December 5, 2001 5:30 PM
Anyone remember Arc2? gimme a jetpack baby and fly!
Transmutate
Reply #25 Wednesday, December 5, 2001 5:37 PM
"But I do have to say if they have an option to trick it out then give me the mud tires and the hydraulic suspension! I'm takeing this baby off road!
by Third Eye - 12/5/2001 4:01:21 PM"

...hell yeah.....now that would be fun

But seriously, I wouldn't have any use for it either. I'll ride my bike (which would be much faster than the Segway) to anywhere I need to go, or simply 'walk' to the corner shops
XX
Reply #26 Thursday, December 6, 2001 1:20 AM
heh like i said before i always walk to work. it will be very much useful for me. i dont like driving thats why.
craeonics
Reply #27 Thursday, December 6, 2001 5:12 AM
If you'd take that thing off road, you'd break your neck.
paxx
Reply #28 Thursday, December 6, 2001 6:18 AM
XX, there are cheaper alternatives than Segway to walking or driving: bicycle, scooter (motorized or not), rollerblades...
That's the thing I don't undestand. I don't see what's so new about this thing, other than it stands upright by itself...
Third Eye
Reply #29 Thursday, December 6, 2001 9:13 AM
But Crae, it doesn't fall over. Duh!

Frogboy
Reply #30 Thursday, December 6, 2001 1:10 PM
Reality check:

People don't walk and ride their bikes. Many people do but many don't. I don't care whether people think I should ride my bike to the stores or walk to them. I don't want to. I want something easier that doesn't require me to use a car. This fits that need.

We live in a world in which people drive their cars .25 miles. Sure, they SHOULD ride their bikes or walk but they're too much hassle for whatever reasons. The Segway is a lot less hassle to deal with (that's the theory anyway, we'll see in practice but I feel it's going to be less hassle). You can't easily steal the thing as it has a key and if you pick it up without the key it'll scream bloody murder. Sure, I wouldn't go to a bad part of town with it but for my needs it'll work fine.

But my main point is that the arguments about hwo we should use our bikes or walk are pointless because most people don't. When I ride my bike to the store, I'm the only one on the side walk. Discussing how things SHOULD be is meaningless. We're talking about how things actually ARE.
paxx
Reply #31 Thursday, December 6, 2001 1:45 PM
OK Frogboy, I hear you. But please explain how this is less hassle than a bicycle?
XX
Reply #32 Thursday, December 6, 2001 4:11 PM
heh pretty many benefits. its powered for one.

no unconfortable seat ( thats why i hate bicycles its those seats thats actally smaller than my err ass crack. )

for me i like walking more than riding. this is much more familiar to me.

once i could do initial payment its much cheaper than car in terms of maintance or insurance ( none for ginger ) all it needs is some recharging and range is bit more than enough for traveling to work and back.
paxx
Reply #33 Thursday, December 6, 2001 4:31 PM
You can buy an electric scooter for the same benefits you mentionned. Plus it's 1/10th of the price.
I don't mean to argue, I really just want to see a single benefit for this. So far I can't.
Chris
Reply #34 Thursday, December 6, 2001 5:18 PM
I just saw a few people driving around using IT/Ginger/Segway in the parking lot (their R&D office is two buildings down from mine in N.H.). It looked pretty cool. I wanted to pull over and ask to try it. Though I think their wheel chair was far cooler and would have more of an immediate benefit.
BoXXi
Reply #35 Thursday, December 6, 2001 5:33 PM
BoXXi thinks Paxx has shares in a bicycle company, hence the vehemence.

BoXXi
Reply #36 Thursday, December 6, 2001 5:39 PM
Anyway, knowing our government, (England) they hate anything innovative, so they will declare it dangerous and make users have a man with a red flag walk 10 paces in front of them!!

(And you all think I'm joking. I wish I was!)
Frogboy
Reply #37 Thursday, December 6, 2001 7:09 PM
From what i've read, it's principally a matter of control. That one really feels like they're in total control. A bike is unstable unless it's moving. So when I come to a stop, I have to get off the bike and stand. Not a big deal but in the city, I just don't feel like I have the same control.

I want walk really but be able to walk faster and without getting tired. This thing is like enhanced walking.
Transmutate
Reply #38 Thursday, December 6, 2001 10:09 PM
well....if you ride a bike often enough you can learn to balance without having to move...you must have seen bicycle courier's doing this, plus you become more comfortable riding in city traffic the more you actully do it

...hey...I don't care if any of you want a Segway, go right ahead, if I had a spare $3000 just lying around I'd prolly buy one too, just have some fun on.

I prefer a really good mountian bike (which can cost must more than a Segway)...each to there own 'eh
DavidK
Reply #39 Friday, December 7, 2001 3:15 AM
needs a lawnmower attachment....
Transmutate
Reply #40 Friday, December 7, 2001 5:39 AM
needs at least 7" travel suspension, big fat off road tyres, disc brakes, wider handle bars, lighter construction, more grunt...

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