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Carlitus
Reply #21 Saturday, August 11, 2001 3:58 PM
I have Win2k, and really works well, more than Mac Classic, ond more more more than winMe!!!
Winxp have more Direct3D gaming compatibility, for this i go to update to winxp! Also, is a great change of win9x! Update all of you!
paxx
Reply #22 Saturday, August 11, 2001 4:43 PM
Tarkus: how much for the full version? I never "upgrade" an OS. I reformat/install anew...
Tarkus
Reply #23 Saturday, August 11, 2001 7:18 PM
paxx: You can do a clean install of a Windows upgrade. You only have to have a qualifying OS disc handy when it asks you for one, so it can ensure that you're really upgrading.

If you don't have a qualifying Windows disc (restore discs don't work), I believe the full prices are $200 for Home and $400 for Pro, but I'm not sure.
Jim
Reply #24 Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:31 AM
I think I'm going to hold off for a awhile, maybe to WindowsXPSE, because I have a Win95 CD (full), Win98 CD (upgrade), and a Win98se CD (upgrade). Its starting to look like a Hermans Hermits Box Set. I'm feeling a little to invested with Microsoft.
SpaceGhost
Reply #25 Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:43 AM
paxx, 800 bucks? Where did you here that? Damn that is ridiculous.
SpaceGhost
Reply #26 Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:45 AM
meant "hear"
hoverboy
Reply #27 Sunday, August 12, 2001 4:20 PM
"...If you run Win2k, the reasons may be less compelling..."

Unless you're looking for Win9x compatability while using the NT kernel. What's not compelling about that? Sure, I dig Win2k, but it can be a pain in the rear when it comes to games and similar software, not to mention Win2k's hardware compatability.

WinXP is a gamers dream come true

"You mean that when a game crashes that it doesn't take your whole system down with it?"

...exactly
hoverboy
Reply #28 Sunday, August 12, 2001 4:36 PM
juni - Minus 100 credibility points for each $ used when spelling Microsoft.

Total damage = 200 lost credibility points

Result: Comments from poster regarding Microsoft are no longer credible.

... no I'm not an employee, I'm just tired of seeing that corny dollar sign pop up in the spelling of MS, implying that they make money...

duh
paxx
Reply #29 Sunday, August 12, 2001 4:58 PM
I asked that question before but no one answered. Win2k also has a "Compatibility Mode" tab. How is the XP one different?
Tarkus
Reply #30 Sunday, August 12, 2001 5:46 PM
The XP tab has Windows 2000 in it.
SickPuppy
Reply #31 Sunday, August 12, 2001 6:05 PM
Paxx, the Win2K compatibility relies on Microsoft releasing app compatibility hotfixes, I'm sure you've seen the list and download. In XP it's built right in and works like a dream,you can choose which version of Win to run the app as, see the other Upgrade ?? thread....
Frogboy
Reply #32 Sunday, August 12, 2001 6:55 PM
Hoverboy, do you know any recent games that don't work on Windows 2000? I use Win2K at home and all my games work fine on it.

Win2K users are not hurting in the game department.

For me, the remote control features win me over.
paxx
Reply #33 Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:42 PM
Frogboy: do you know VNC? It's free, it's tiny and it work like a charm. It's even cross-platform. You can connect from and to different Windows, Mac and/or Linux...
Oh and one thing that won't work under 2k is my Sidewinder joystick, from Microsoft. Funny, isn't it?
paxx
Reply #34 Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:46 PM
BTW: here is the link for VNC: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ (less than 1 meg download, and that include the server part asd well as the client part)
Istari
Reply #35 Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:21 PM
VNC is no where near as nice as what's built into XP. It's like comparing CGA to SVGA, the difference staggering.
juni
Reply #36 Monday, August 13, 2001 1:26 AM
Micro_$_oft making money??? Nah
misterME
Reply #37 Monday, August 13, 2001 1:59 AM
I'm on WinXP RC1 right now, from a disc I got for attending the OfficeXP launch in Charlotte. Before that, I ran Win2k since the month before its release.

Win2k *did* have some compatibility issues for me (most notably the way it handled my USB DSL modem, which was to use a horrid piece of third-party software to manage the connection by fooling the program into thinking it was running under a different OS). So far, WinXP has given me no compatibility problems, save for the few that were easily fixed by running the Compatabilty Wizard and emulating (natively) an earlier MS OS.

Also, WinXP has a much smoother interface (even without all the "Luna" stuff). Draws seem to be much faster and smoother on XP than 2k, and the ClearType (a native font anti-aliasing that works on *all* sizes of fonts) is a wonderful thing once your eyes adjust to it. I use it on a 1280x1024 19" display, and it makes everything look so much better (I *hate* jaggies).

Working for a major retailer has its advantegs too, since I qualify to attend the WinXP Roadhsow from MS in September, where I'll get a free full-retail version of WinXP Pro. If it weren't for that, however, I would still be paying for an upgrade, since I love having the Win2k stability and the Win9x compatability and versatility all in one shiny pretty package.

Those of you who haven't had the opportunity to try it, I really can't tell you why it's so much better. But it is. This is the one that MS got right. There's a lot of fluff in it (almost of all of which can be turned off or ignored), but it's also chocked full of *useful* enhancements: Better Profile defining and usage, Remote Assistance (the tech's dream for customer support: just take control of their PC from your office, fix the problem while they watch, explaining each step as you go along so they won't have to bother you with the same problem again), excellent compatabilty and performance tweaks for games and other graphic-intensive apps, built in backup and recovery options that are both useful and easy-to-use, a better and more useful interface (even with Luna turned off), *intelligent and useful* wizars to complete almost every complicated internal task, better skinning support and enhanced APIs for more thorough customization, and the list goes on.

Is all this worth $200 or $300? IMHO, yes. But you shoudl decide for yourself (after evaluating it and giving it a fair shake before you pass judgement or boycott it based on anti-MS sentiment).
AJCrowley
Reply #38 Monday, August 13, 2001 3:42 AM
Frogboy said it best, and it's what I said from the first time I installed XP. It's definitely a step up from 9x/ME, but not really that much from 2k IMO, actually from what I've seen at this point, I'd recommend 2k over XP to users of 9xAJCrowley looking to upgrade as well.
paxx
Reply #39 Monday, August 13, 2001 6:38 AM
Tandis: how is it much better?
I switched from PCAnywhere to VNC for a few reasons: it does the same thing, it's fast, it's free under the GNU licence, and it's crossplatform. The only thin it doesn't do at the moment is file transfer, but I got an FTP server t take care of that.
Querstion: can you connect to non-XP machines with he remote desktop feature?
skinner7892
Reply #40 Monday, August 13, 2001 7:52 AM
Not me, at least, not if they hang on their idea of WPA (as the majority of people according to reviews I found in magazine). XP is actually a little revamp of W2K which is already the best OS Microsoft did to date. So why would I feel the need to upgrade after only a year and a half of great pleasures with W2K (and only few months of full 3rd party drivers support :0)? For skinning, ODNT already offers me that possibility. And for WPA, I recommend that you read that short article http://www.win2000mag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=21579 on www.win2000mag.com.

This is my 0,04$ CDN (0,02$ US )

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