3D icons for TriDComm
Monday, June 25, 2001 by tridcomm | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
TriDComm is a 3D file manager or explrer replacement or shell enhancement for windows. Its home is
http://www.geocities.com/tridcomm
I'd need 3D icons for it. Can somebody make them?
http://www.geocities.com/tridcomm
I'd need 3D icons for it. Can somebody make them?
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Jafo
Reply #22 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:23 AM
Reply #22 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:23 AM
Jafo looks about himself....am I back in skinz again?.....
ess-vid
Reply #23 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:34 AM
Reply #23 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:34 AM
You know I love ya Dor =P
Anyway, in my experience, those that don't know any better are the worst of the lot for exactly that reason.
Let me explain: as I've said, I've done free stuff in the past. Not all of it was a nightmare. Particularly, doing work for Mian and Gorman were memorable experiences. Why? Because they knew how to work with people, and have had experience doing it with people for pay. When I did some free stuff for them conversations were full of "please," "thank you," "if you have the time," "if you want to," and so on an so forth. People not like this get you every time because they never seem to grasp the concept that you're doing this work for them in your spare time out of the kindness of your heart. They're demanding, they treat it like it's real work that you're obligated to. Some can be downright abusive. And this is consistent, not just isolated incidents.
The thing about all work is there must be some incentive there. For the stuff with Mian and Gorman, it was being associated with them for a relatively small amount of work. Another factor is you must go in hoping to be accepted, but never expecting it. For instance, a while back I approached Brad with a project I had long since tooled on (an icon editor). The incentive I pushed was that they would own the project (with the small caveat that I wanted to direct the development to a degree... after all, it is my baby, don't want to have it mutate too much). They said no, and that was that. It explains what worthy incentive is though... I didn't say "I'll link you on CleffieNET" or anything of that nature. Provide something really worthwhile, and your chances dramaticlly improve (but are never assured).
Anyway, in my experience, those that don't know any better are the worst of the lot for exactly that reason.
Let me explain: as I've said, I've done free stuff in the past. Not all of it was a nightmare. Particularly, doing work for Mian and Gorman were memorable experiences. Why? Because they knew how to work with people, and have had experience doing it with people for pay. When I did some free stuff for them conversations were full of "please," "thank you," "if you have the time," "if you want to," and so on an so forth. People not like this get you every time because they never seem to grasp the concept that you're doing this work for them in your spare time out of the kindness of your heart. They're demanding, they treat it like it's real work that you're obligated to. Some can be downright abusive. And this is consistent, not just isolated incidents.
The thing about all work is there must be some incentive there. For the stuff with Mian and Gorman, it was being associated with them for a relatively small amount of work. Another factor is you must go in hoping to be accepted, but never expecting it. For instance, a while back I approached Brad with a project I had long since tooled on (an icon editor). The incentive I pushed was that they would own the project (with the small caveat that I wanted to direct the development to a degree... after all, it is my baby, don't want to have it mutate too much). They said no, and that was that. It explains what worthy incentive is though... I didn't say "I'll link you on CleffieNET" or anything of that nature. Provide something really worthwhile, and your chances dramaticlly improve (but are never assured).
tridcomm
Reply #24 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:43 AM
Reply #24 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:43 AM
ess-vid: how much should I pay for one 3d icon ?
how much should somebody pay for me integrating her/his icon into TriDComm ?
Just say numbers.
how much should somebody pay for me integrating her/his icon into TriDComm ?
Just say numbers.
ess-vid
Reply #25 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:12 AM
Reply #25 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:12 AM
I can't answer that with a solid number... it all depends on the artist doing it. I'd say start at $50 USD. If that doesn't work, raise it a few bucks (10-25) and try again. Be sure to check out the person's work (and make sure it's -their- work they're showing you) before starting the job.
A bit of advice: it's best to pay for stuff like this, as it develops a business relationship, and potentially a friendly one. If you pay someone to do jobs for you, eventually you'll be able to leverage that relationship to gain what you want occasionally without money (you'll still pay, to be sure, but with a favour to be called on in the future, stuff like that). This is certainly a good thing.
Also, I do hope you know I have nothing personal against you. As I said, this is all an act to provoke a response :>
A bit of advice: it's best to pay for stuff like this, as it develops a business relationship, and potentially a friendly one. If you pay someone to do jobs for you, eventually you'll be able to leverage that relationship to gain what you want occasionally without money (you'll still pay, to be sure, but with a favour to be called on in the future, stuff like that). This is certainly a good thing.
Also, I do hope you know I have nothing personal against you. As I said, this is all an act to provoke a response :>
ess-vid
Reply #27 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:56 AM
Reply #27 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:56 AM
Because I'm not sure whether it's sarcasm or simply poorly worded ("never attribute malice where you can ignorance", as the saying goes). The second question sounds like you're asking how much someone should pay you to make the icon for you.
craeonics
Reply #28 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:56 AM
Reply #28 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:56 AM
Another approach might be this: is the icon user definable or are you looking for new default ones. Case one means someone has to be dedicated to make those new default icons, so the ess-vid approach might me handy there. Case two means it is user definable, so then it's up to the user to make those icons (without any obligation to share that with the world).
Besides, what kind of format do those icons have anyhow?
Besides, what kind of format do those icons have anyhow?
tridcomm
Reply #29 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:11 AM
Reply #29 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:11 AM
See here:
http://www.skinbase.org/msgboard.php3?topicid=42
http://www.skinbase.org/msgboard.php3?topicid=42
craeonics
Reply #30 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:25 AM
Reply #30 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:25 AM
Saw that, but that's an unknown format to me. Waht is it? is it a basic textfile or do you need special software to make it?
ess-vid
Reply #31 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:32 AM
Reply #31 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:32 AM
crae, reread the post there: http://www.anim8or.com
kenray
Reply #32 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:47 AM
Reply #32 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:47 AM
if you just wanted to incorporate existing icons into your program, i think it woudl be fair to offer US$20 for each one, or make soem kinda package purchase from a designer.
Since the proposed designer has already done hte work, offering soem less for them is fine, because there's no additional output form the artist, you are liscensing intellectual property.
and i think ess's quote on the icons @ US $50 is fair...
NEWBEEZ:
Read the interview with ess vid in Teknidermy issue #4
www.teknidermy.org
vastly entertaining
Since the proposed designer has already done hte work, offering soem less for them is fine, because there's no additional output form the artist, you are liscensing intellectual property.
and i think ess's quote on the icons @ US $50 is fair...
NEWBEEZ:
Read the interview with ess vid in Teknidermy issue #4
www.teknidermy.org
vastly entertaining
tridcomm
Reply #34 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:01 AM
Reply #34 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:01 AM
kenray: sorry I don't understand you. Who has already made the design work ?
ess-vid
Reply #35 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:04 AM
Reply #35 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:04 AM
heheh, my interview was OK... only problem with it I saw was the timing... you can't tell that it was a three hour chat on IRC, so things said after a couple minutes of silence look like I said them immediately after. Makes me sound far too impatient :>
tridcomm
Reply #36 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:49 AM
Reply #36 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:49 AM
ess-vid:
my offer:
-you make 3d icons and you can ask money for it
-you put a link on your site to my site
-you are not allowed to intervene what code I
put in tridcomm
-I make tridcomm capable of handling 3d icons
in .an8 format
-I put a link on my site to your site
-I don't ask money for your 3d icons
-I don't ask money for tridcomm
-I am not allowed to intervene what kind of 3d
icons you make
my offer:
-you make 3d icons and you can ask money for it
-you put a link on your site to my site
-you are not allowed to intervene what code I
put in tridcomm
-I make tridcomm capable of handling 3d icons
in .an8 format
-I put a link on my site to your site
-I don't ask money for your 3d icons
-I don't ask money for tridcomm
-I am not allowed to intervene what kind of 3d
icons you make
ess-vid
Reply #37 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:42 PM
Reply #37 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:42 PM
Eh? Sorry , never said that I specifically would take the job. I have a couple of big projects I'm working on right now so I'm not really taking on anything that doesn't pay at least a few hundred dollars. Likely someone else will pick it up though, if you state a dollar amount on the pay.
Doreen
Reply #38 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:03 PM
Reply #38 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:03 PM
tridcomm
this guy does outstanding icons at around $25 an icon but worth it, I myself never had any work done by him but I use to talk to him about a year ago...
his name is Igarashi Susumu and here is his website:
http://www.tcp-ip.or.jp/~s-iga/
this guy does outstanding icons at around $25 an icon but worth it, I myself never had any work done by him but I use to talk to him about a year ago...
his name is Igarashi Susumu and here is his website:
http://www.tcp-ip.or.jp/~s-iga/
tridcomm
Reply #39 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:22 PM
Reply #39 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:22 PM
ess: as I said I don't pay for anything
Doreen: s/he makes 2d icons, tridcomm needs 3d icons
Doreen: s/he makes 2d icons, tridcomm needs 3d icons
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Reply #21 Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:39 AM
by ess-vid - 6/26/2001 1:02:50 AM
who ya callin sickeningly sweet! I'll kick your icons ess!!!
hehe
ess you know there will be another small time programmer coming around the corner any minute, so get ready!
most of these kind hit "all" the skinning community boards in a sweep in hopes of getting one catch out of 5 posts or so nothing will stop them cuz most really don't know any better and do it innocently asking for help, however I do agree w/ you on the ones that are downright vultures that know the game and rip off ppl, but it's all about "Beware" for the graphic artist who chooses to do the work.
usually it only takes one rip off to learn a good lession...