SkinStudio Bug/Quirk ?
Thursday, March 11, 2004 by Ingui | Discussion: Skinning
Not sure how I've missed this and I don't know if it's been discussed before so I apologize in advance for any redundancy 
The MoreProgramsArrow in SkinStudio, well.. in the preview the "Pressed" and "MouseOver" states are reversed. At least thats how it works on my machine.
The MoreProgramsArrow in SkinStudio, well.. in the preview the "Pressed" and "MouseOver" states are reversed. At least thats how it works on my machine.
SelfExiled
Reply #2 Friday, March 12, 2004 2:29 AM
Reply #2 Friday, March 12, 2004 2:29 AM
I would never have thought that it mattered. Because when you move the cursor over the "All Programs", it is highlighted, and pressed because the menu shows. So, my question would be, why would it matter? I just think of that image as a two state button.
CerebroJD
Reply #4 Friday, March 12, 2004 11:44 AM
Reply #4 Friday, March 12, 2004 11:44 AM
I think you may be right Ingui.
Just checked: Yes you are right! That explains why my mouseover wasnt working right. Thanks!!
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Just checked: Yes you are right! That explains why my mouseover wasnt working right. Thanks!!
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Koasati
Reply #5 Friday, March 12, 2004 5:32 PM
Reply #5 Friday, March 12, 2004 5:32 PM
Not only is it reversed in SkinStudio, there doesn't appear to be a "pressed" state for the arrow in the actual menu.
Ingui
Reply #6 Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:49 PM
Reply #6 Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:49 PM
Hey Sput, Sounds like you know alot more about skinning than me. I have yet to discover the other issues you mentioned. But Duplicating those 2 states does seem to be the easy answer. Thanx. And that would also answer Chas' question...
Of course I like DarkMist's answer
(BTW- Hey DM, How you been?) Anyway, as I was saying. It would matter to someone like me who, isn't all that familiar with every aspect of SS. I've said before, I don't find "skinning" Windows particularly difficult, just "deep". There is a lot to it, or can be depending on what your final goal is. So Chas makes a good point,
One of those things that you "know" but never gave thought to until you apply your skin and realize your image states are "whack".
I've just never seen this mentioned before and was't sure if it was just some odd behaviour on my end.
A.) Glad it's not
B.) Hope this posts helps others
Ciao
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| So, my question would be, why would it matter? |
Of course I like DarkMist's answer
(BTW- Hey DM, How you been?) Anyway, as I was saying. It would matter to someone like me who, isn't all that familiar with every aspect of SS. I've said before, I don't find "skinning" Windows particularly difficult, just "deep". There is a lot to it, or can be depending on what your final goal is. So Chas makes a good point, | I just think of that image as a two state button |
One of those things that you "know" but never gave thought to until you apply your skin and realize your image states are "whack".
I've just never seen this mentioned before and was't sure if it was just some odd behaviour on my end.
A.) Glad it's not
B.) Hope this posts helps others
Ciao
[Message Edited]
Sput
Reply #7 Saturday, March 13, 2004 1:02 PM
Reply #7 Saturday, March 13, 2004 1:02 PM
Ingui - you might like to add it to the "The Un-Official WindowBlinds/SkinStudio Documentation Project" thread as a tip? It's just the sort of thing that's useful to be there for people 
CerebroJD
Reply #8 Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:45 PM
This is also true. I had noticed this before.
Reply #8 Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:45 PM
| there doesn't appear to be a "pressed" state for the arrow in the actual menu |
This is also true. I had noticed this before.
Sput
Reply #9 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:22 AM
Reply #9 Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:22 AM
Çërêb®øJÐ - with things like this, is it worth still including them in a skin in case they are supported later? Since I'm still learning the foibles of WB/SkinStudio, I'm tending to create these things and then find they don't work as yet, but I'm leaving them in in the hope that someone sometime later might appreciate them if they suddenly start working...but now I know they don't work, I'm tempted to skip them. What are other skinners doing?
SelfExiled
Reply #10 Monday, March 15, 2004 3:20 PM
Reply #10 Monday, March 15, 2004 3:20 PM
Okay, here's one that is really funny. Why does the windows buttons say that there are six states? But, only allow three frames, and in most skins only give an explanation of three states? And, even in the instances where some poor soul did make a six state button, the frame count still only showed as 3. Meaning that only 3 frames were recognized by SS. 
CerebroJD
Reply #11 Monday, March 15, 2004 10:46 PM
I try to do something there, just in case.
I think I found another bug: In the "Task Pane"/"Panel Content"/"Title Bar" section, are the "Down and "Down Mouse Over" images switched? It seems that they are to me, and I have had to correct for this. Does skinstudio have this issue with anyone else?
Reply #11 Monday, March 15, 2004 10:46 PM
| What are other skinners doing? |
I try to do something there, just in case.
I think I found another bug: In the "Task Pane"/"Panel Content"/"Title Bar" section, are the "Down and "Down Mouse Over" images switched? It seems that they are to me, and I have had to correct for this. Does skinstudio have this issue with anyone else?
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Reply #1 Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:33 PM
I have noticed a few other places where things are shuffled slightly. For instance, when working on a universal skin, the vertical task bar button states are in the wrong order (I can't rememeber which way their messed up now). In this case though, the UIS2 editing shows it correctly (unless you designed the buttons based on the "wrong" order and then switch to UIS2 as I've done a couple of times now...in which case you have to shuffle them into the right order!)
There's also some other issues of images being swapped or not converted correctly to actually work as a skin when working on Universal skin format to do with menus, background images and animations which when I get the time, I'll send in as bug reports on the newsgroups - unless they end up fixed before I get to it