Blog: Konfabulous sour grapes, Tiggz stalking, and more..

Friday, November 5, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize News

Get ready for some spicy stuff.  I think one of the reasons people like Stardock is that we operate a lot like how many people who have thought of running their own business would run their business.  Simply put, we're candid. We don't have any venture capital powering the company. We operate because of people like you guys who buy our products, subscribe to our sites, etc. send us money and we then take that money and create stuff you want. That makes us totally independent. We don't have corporate masters. You guys are our masters. So you don't get any of that patronizing politically correct crap that you see from so many "larger" companies (even though Stardock itself is a multi-million dollar corporation now all from many thousands of individual purchases each year).

My rant of the day is that apparently the Konfabulator for Windows beta comes out next week. How do I know this? It was on freakin Slashdot. It was on News.com. And it was on dozens of other sites. Wow. Konfabulator for Windows. Must be doing something earth shattering? Friends, I have Konfabulator on my Macintosh. It's a great Mac program. I think its developer is a very talented guy. But to be perfectly honest, it's not even competitive with Kapsules let alone something like DesktopX.

But given the coverage Konfabulator always gets, you'd think it was some sort of miracle program. Sure, it costs more than DesktopX, does a lot less than DesktopX, has fewer users than DesktopX, is harder to create stuff for, has less content, but it's special because it came from a Mac and everyone knows that people who use Macs are...you know...a better breed of human than us yokals who use PeeCees. 

Not that Konfabulator content is bad. Why this past week a cool weather widget came out for it. And an RSS reader.  And a terror alert status. In other words, the same kinds of things that have been avaiable on DesktopX, Kapsules, Samurize, and countless other programs for a long time. But Konfabulator gets credit for being somehow unique even though it was preceded by DesktopX by 3 years.

Probably the most insulting part was that Konfabulator big coverage came from CNET which has acted like it was somehow unique even as DesktopX on CNET has been on its top 10 most popular desktop enhancement downloads category for the past 203 consecutive weeks.  That's about 4 years straight (Konfabulator was released on the Mac in 2003 to keep things in perspective).

I'm going to start showing my son (who's 7) how to make widgets for DesktopX. I think he'd have a good time and it'll teach him some valuable skills such as how to use a graphics package, how to do some basic programming, and best of all, you he'd get some immediate gratification. When I was his age I was playing around with basic programming on my dad's Apple II. Those were the days.

Meanwhile, I must find Tiggz and snuff him out.  In the advocacy competition he's beating me. ME. How is this happening? Now I know how a Kerry voter must be feeling right now. How is Tiggz able to get more people to WinCustomize them myself? Personally I'm blaming it on the voter machines in Ohio. The new WinCustomize tracks the # of people you bring to the site from links you create on other sites.  Obviously he's cheating. That's the only explanation.  But this week he has brought 1,157 people to WinCustomize.com from links he's made to his personal page and his skins from other sites.

Meanwhile, Steven Grenier has taken the lead in the WindowBlinds most popular skin contest. His WindowMax2 skin has passed up many other skins to be the current leadrer demonstrating that it's not how quick you get your skin up but how much people like it.

This Tuesday DesktopX v2.2 will be released so hopefully people will be able to finally compare Konfabulator to DesktopX head to head. I'm looking forward to that. Finally and apples and apples comparison between the two.

Meanwhile, the Utopia Icons are doing really well. It's always good to see long time community skinners like Paul Boyer do well. He did this on his own folks, I know he spent many many weekends working on Utopia to make sure it was really good.

So next week things will definitely be getting interesting. New builds of a bunch of programs coming out and lots of news. And WinCustomize v4 will be available to more people. Stay tuned!

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Mav Phoenix
Reply #21 Saturday, November 6, 2004 3:21 PM
^It's his site he can do what he wants, lol.
lilstarfish
Reply #22 Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:51 PM
For interesting info on Konfabulator and what it means:

Konfabulator for Windows... on its way!
http://www2.konfabulator.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4672

Also, check out the interesting
"Ten Days In The Wild"
A look at how two very different things can be the same
http://www.konfabulator.com/ten.html
BruB
Reply #23 Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:54 PM
Stardock is a multi-million corporation ?
Frogboy
Reply #24 Saturday, November 6, 2004 5:18 PM

Joe:


That's the thing, you don't have to run DesktopX to use its widgets. That's its big advantage. With Konfabulator, you HAVE to run its environment. With DesktopX, you just need it installed. Its widgets are EXEs.

Mav Phoenix
Reply #25 Saturday, November 6, 2004 9:02 PM
^I don't really see the point of that since then instead of managing 1 app (DX) you have to manage many (5 on my desktop currently). How does that make anyone's life easier having their notification area populated by little apps?
yehuda
Reply #26 Saturday, November 6, 2004 9:41 PM
Stardock is too much of a computer crasher!
BruB
Reply #27 Saturday, November 6, 2004 11:59 PM
Stardock is too much of a computer crasher!


Don't you just love this type of comments if you don't like the show, change the channel.
yehuda
Reply #28 Sunday, November 7, 2004 1:06 AM
I have changed the channel....stylexp is much better!
Mackintosh
Reply #29 Sunday, November 7, 2004 6:15 AM
I haven't had a WB "release" build crash on me since maybe 1.2 or so. Some alphas and betas did, but that's understandable.
MarkMcQ
Reply #30 Sunday, November 7, 2004 6:25 AM
StyleXP is totally different from DX, Yehuda. If you're going throw out worthless comments, at least have them in context.

As for the Konfab vs DX thing, while DX can do all that Konfab can, and more, from what I see, the DX widget thing never really took off till Konfab became popular, to be frank. Most of the better DX widgets are essentially Konfabesque, although thankfully now people are starting to do more unique stuff, instead of just repeating what's already been done. While DX may have been around longer and had the abilities, Konfab 'did it' first, while DX themers were busy making clocks and themes.
cybermessiah
Reply #31 Sunday, November 7, 2004 9:31 AM
yup...agree with Hippy there...its not what is available in the product, its what people are doing with it that puts it in the public eye and favor. Think desktopX is great and far more functionable than Konbab, just needs more of a push in its creative abilities. If Stardock is a 'multi-million' dollar company, how about creating some more tutorials on creating and scripting objects other than calendars and rainys. There is so much more that can be done with DesktopX.
If Konfab is going to get more coverage in the skinning community than DesktopX, then complaining about the fact isnt going to change it..you're going to have to find ways to push your product more and make it just as or more appealing.
Davebo
Reply #32 Sunday, November 7, 2004 11:24 AM
Brad, when DesktopX first came out I'm sure it was covered in all the press to a greater degree than this is. So, In a way, sour grapes is an appropriate title for this rant.

Personally, brand loyalty is ridiculous. Whatever runs the best on my machine is what I use. Right now that's AveDesk - running 4 desklets @ 5 MB RAM total. If I fire up one DesktopX widget I'm looking at 5MB+ for that single widget. I'm an OD subscriber, so DX is bought and paid for - it's resource usage that keeps me from using DesktopX. Windowblinds is an example of Stardock "getting it right". It's hands down the best way to skin Windows today, due to what it can do, and how cheaply it does it resource-wise.

If Konfab does better resource wise I may take a look at it. However - AveDesk is still free and improving with each release. So Konfab will have to be killer indeed to pry me away...
Majd Abdel Ahad
Reply #33 Sunday, November 7, 2004 12:04 PM
actually it seems that most people don't know about this. Som1 lately posted this in a stardock newsgroup and what it does is truly amazing.

Let me put it this way, before this solution, when i had DX/objectdock running, my computer would be so slow i couldn't even scroll. After the solution it's like i don't have any of them running.


Here's what you do.

1) go to http://www.download.com/RAMDiskXP/3000-2094_4-10227155.html?tag=lst-0-2

2) download ramdiskxp

3) create a new ram disk with about 100-200 mb (i use only 50mb cause i only use OD on it)

4) install all your stardock applications to it and behold the revelation.



This is working AWSOME on my computer.

If you are interested here are my computer specs:

2.8 GHZ pent. 4 w/ HT technology
128 mb ATI radeon 9200
512 mb ram
80 gig hard drive.


Hope this helps som1
Septimus
Reply #34 Sunday, November 7, 2004 2:52 PM
Hold on a sec, a 2.8Ghz PC and you couldn't even scroll? That doesn't sound right.

Even with DX1.1 on a Celeron 500 w/ 256MB Ram I could run DX and the machine wouldn't bog down that much.

With 2.21 on a 3.0HT, I can have any reasonable amount of widgets and the CPU never budges from 0/2% on the DX thread. How would a RAM disk help that? The program is called from disk every second so HD access won't cause that.

Not trying to dispute you, but it doesn't make any sense.
Septimus
Reply #35 Sunday, November 7, 2004 2:55 PM
Edit - (as I can't > ) The program "isn't" called from disk*
Mav Phoenix
Reply #36 Sunday, November 7, 2004 5:05 PM
I agree with Septimus, I don't think it's DX's fault on that one. Perhaps the object's fault.
Majd Abdel Ahad
Reply #37 Sunday, November 7, 2004 6:47 PM
to tell u the truth i don't know how it works it just does lol.

i don't know what it is about my computer that's slowing it down...could be spyware/adware but yeah i hate 512 mb i want 1 gb.
Frogboy
Reply #38 Sunday, November 7, 2004 9:34 PM

Sounds to me like a widget someone tried was doing a lot of disk accesses or something.


DesktopX is just an environment, it shouldn't slow down your computer at all. Badly written widgets, like any program, will slow things down.

kith
Reply #39 Sunday, November 7, 2004 10:42 PM
Frog - don't feel bad. Alex St. John mentioned your little DX fish and Wincustomize in the last paragraph of his article in CPU magazine this month. Well it isn't front page stuff but the little things do add up. There is also the PC Mag Editors choice for Desktop Customization for months on end now. I know it's hard getting the respect you deserve, but slashdot is far from a Windows paradise. bill
dukeofchutney
Reply #40 Monday, November 8, 2004 4:04 AM
It's amazing what a mention in a news item can do for you - Tiggz has overtaken Steven Grenier on the leaderboard.



Some one better keep an eye on Frogboy, at this rate he might follow through...

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