Carbon Footprint

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 by loukeeya | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

i am getting so bored with all this carbon-neutral clap trap - everywhere you have ppl saying how carbon neutral they are, big companies and even airlines bleating on about how green they are! how can an airline be carbon neutral? then at work there are cushy new jobs created "Carbon Neutral Observers" these are staffed by cronies of the the management who get paid huge amounts to run around whittering on about being carbon neutral. surely all that hot air cant be good for the enviroment can it?  lol

 

i think instead of worrying about stuff we cant see we should be more worried about stuff we can see so i am proposing we all become Beige Neutral   lol

no more beige 

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WebGizmos
Reply #41 Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:19 PM

WG, I hope you understand I was trying to say there isn't a topic to debate.

Hey no problems here!

starkers
Reply #42 Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:03 AM

On the "it's natural" argument...

Oil spreading on certain ocean is all natural therefore its fine.

Mercury is all natural. It's a elemental!

Hemlock is natural too.



You need better arguments than "it's natural".

The oil most likely would not be floating on the world's oceans if man had not interfered/dug it up/drilled for it.

And the rising mercury levels in some world rivers... that would be man's doing again, manufacturing effluent being washed into waterways.

Hemlock, was used for remedial/medicinal purposes, not just sinister ones.

The thing here is that all these natural element are largely inert if left in their natural states.  It is usually mans intervention when environmental disasters occur involving these (and other) elements.  So yes, mankind needs to clean up its act and be more 'planet friendly', but at the same time, we need truth from out governments and corporations.... and right now we're not getting it.

'global warming' thing is a crock of shit, designed by corporations to part us from more of our money.

Try talking to a scientist about it.

No point talking to scientists!   Most of them are corporate lackies being paid to do corporate bidding... to find favourably for corporate agendas/aspirations.  And many of the rest of them are eccentric peculiarities studying the mating habits of green tree frogs or some other exotic creature.

The bottom line in all this is... if corporations actually gave a shit about the planet, they'd have employed better business practices years ago... before they stuffed up the environment.  No, the truth is that most corporate big-wigs are capitalist pigs who care only about profit and getting rich quick.... amassing as much wealth as possible and bugger at what or whose expense.  This has been going on since the advent of the industrial revolution, greedy, profit-driven capitalists exploiting all and sundry, people and resources, and now that they have a few scientists on the payroll (like somebody has to employ them or the university loans never get repaid)  to prove they have/had planetary impact, the bastards want us to pay for their greed and monumental cock-ups through increased power and fuel levies.

When power and fuel goes up, so does everything else, but does anyone here honestly believe that our paying through the nose to 'so-say' fix global warming is actually going to work???  Pigs arse it will!!!!   We will pay more for less, few if any environmental measures will be implemented, and the big corporate bastards will reap hugely increased profits and run laughing all the way to the bank.

For the most part, science is based on theory and is often dis-proven and or amended later on... and I'll bet my balls this global warming thing (as is presented) will be dis-proven and revealed as being a fallacy to derive greater corporate profits.

 

Koasati
Reply #43 Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:47 AM

G3mpi3


Try talking to a scientist about it. It seems anyone will find an excuse to avoid dealing with evident problems. The chemical properties of carbon dioxide cannot be debated, as well as its correspondence to mass extinctions throughout history.

Climatologist, author, former NASA scientist.....  http://www.drroyspencer.com/

G3mpi3
Reply #44 Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:17 AM

No point talking to scientists! Most of them are corporate lackies being paid to do corporate bidding... to find favourably for corporate agendas/aspirations. And many of the rest of them are eccentric peculiarities studying the mating habits of green tree frogs or some other exotic creature.

Thanks.

Climatologist, author, former NASA scientist.....

First of all, it's naive to think scientists will ever agree on one subject. Second, it seems he and I agree about a lot of things. Yes, climate change is a natural process.....I pointed that out in my first post. I'm just saying we're accelerating the process, when we should be concentrating on slowing it down. Temperature isn't the important outcome of global warming, it's all of the other effects that I stated before. Yes, carbon dioxide is slowly increasing, and it would appear that one extra particle per 100,000 isn't statistically important, However, in science we know small things can have huge side effects. For example, one drop of Clostridium botulinum is potent enough to kill thousands of people. There's really no excuse for not being more responsible when it comes to taking care of the environment.

Ausvet
Reply #45 Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:31 AM

Maximising space. a solution.

WebGizmos
Reply #46 Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:54 PM

Maximising space. a solution.

loukeeya
Reply #47 Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:03 PM

oh are greenhouse gases a bit like curried cabbage gases? 

starkers
Reply #48 Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:36 PM

oh are greenhouse gases a bit like curried cabbage gases?

Similar, but nowhere near as much fun.

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #49 Friday, May 21, 2010 2:56 AM

Global warming deniers need a carbon footprint on their backsides...

 

It's all the fault of McDonalds really. More burgers = more beef, more beef = more cows, more cows = more cow farts

loukeeya
Reply #50 Friday, May 21, 2010 7:13 PM

i am fond of beige macdonalds    

loukeeya
Reply #51 Friday, May 21, 2010 7:15 PM

oh and whats all the fuss about the place warming up? it will flood a few tin pot little countries no one has heard of and maybe here in the uk we might get a nice summer for a change   lol

 

 

ps: i live on a hill so bring it on 

DrJBHL
Reply #52 Friday, May 21, 2010 7:22 PM

loukeeya
oh and whats all the fuss about the place warming up? it will flood a few tin pot little countries no one has heard of and maybe here in the uk we might get a nice summer for a change   lol

 

 

ps: i live on a hill so bring it on 

Even on a hill, you might find the agricultural changes and climatic changes leaving us all a tad hungry.

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #53 Friday, May 21, 2010 8:12 PM

Hum, yeah. Midwest USA will turn into a dust bowl - is that a problem?

DaveRI
Reply #54 Friday, May 21, 2010 8:51 PM

We will need all that dust to provide a nice contrast to all that oil which will apparently still be spewing in off the Gulf.

loukeeya
Reply #55 Saturday, May 22, 2010 5:50 AM

DrJBHL

Quoting loukeeya, reply 51oh and whats all the fuss about the place warming up? it will flood a few tin pot little countries no one has heard of and maybe here in the uk we might get a nice summer for a change   lol

 

 

ps: i live on a hill so bring it on 

Even on a hill, you might find the agricultural changes and climatic changes leaving us all a tad hungry.

 

 

lol doc by the time the world starts running out of food i will be dead and in oblivion. oh and have ppl not heard of contraception? there are almost 7 billion ppl isnt it time they slowed down a bit? 

DrJBHL
Reply #56 Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:43 AM

Fuzzy Logic
Hum, yeah. Midwest USA will turn into a dust bowl - is that a problem?

Was in the '30's.

lol doc by the time the world starts running out of food i will be dead and in oblivion. oh and have ppl not heard of contraception? there are almost 7 billion ppl isnt it time they slowed down a bit?

You'd be surprised. Also, I thought one of our plusses as a species was being able to think beyond the next 20 minutes.

natas2
Reply #57 Saturday, May 22, 2010 12:32 PM

 

oh and have ppl not heard of contraception? there are almost 7 billion ppl isnt it time they slowed down a bit?

Blame it on Catholics...

DrJBHL
Reply #58 Saturday, May 22, 2010 12:40 PM

Hey now! None of that crap here! I simply will not see any religion disrespected in these forums.

Stay away from religions and people's beliefs. Please edit your response.

natas2
Reply #59 Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:43 PM

DrJBHL
Hey now! None of that crap here! I simply will not see any religion disrespected in these forums.

Stay away from religions and people's beliefs. Please edit your response.

Settle down dude.  And don't tell me what to do.  Not sure who you think you are, but no matter what you think, you don't get to tell me what to do.  My comment was meant in jest, as most everyone knows that Catholics don't allow contraception.  Which is stupid imo.  So I edited it...with a smiley. 

If you feel it's so bad, pm a mod and whine to them and see if they feel the need to slap me down or remove my post.  But like I said, it was in jest. 

DrJBHL
Reply #60 Saturday, May 22, 2010 8:15 PM

Went over like a lead balloon.

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