What would you like to see in future Deskscapes releases?

Thursday, March 25, 2010 by Neil Banfield | Discussion: Animated Wallpapers

I was just wondering what Deskscapes users and potential users would like to see in Deskscapes 3.2

I know there is interest in having some form of timed animations back, but I was wondering if there were other features you would like to see, or if there are any issues you have encountered with Deskscapes 3.1.

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Neil Banfield
Reply #21 Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:35 PM

Aleatoric
More ability to customize and work on multiple monitors.

For example, right now I have liquid dream running on three monitors. The way it works now, the effects and the background image are the same on all three (clones), which isn't bad, but I'd like to be able to get a more seamless experience with something like a properly tiled background. Or let me specify a different background (or effect) on any of the different monitors, even if using the same dream.

I'd like to be able to configure it so that a different wallpaper is used on each of the screens (or, if possible, have it set up so that it will properly tile a 3 monitor wallpaper across the screens, in the same manner that the tile feature in windows does).

Even better, let the dream be configured to span the entire space defined by the multiple monitors. For example in my 3 monitor setup (3 x 1680 x 1050), let the dream be configured to present a single experience across all three monitors.

I think it would be appropriate to treat the whole workspace as a single workspace, no matter how many monitors are involved. This might not be easily possible with video dreams, but it should be doable with dynamic dreams.

I'm pretty happy with the current state of multi monitor support, it's definitely better than what we had before, but I think it would be nice if we could get more contol over *all* of the presentation for a multi monitor setup.


Dynamic dreams can already treat the entire space as a single workspace if they wish.  Likewise video dreams can be stretched to fill multiple screens - just see the stretch over monitors and fill monitors background settings modes.

It is unlikely multiple screens with the same dream will ever get different effects.  It simply isn't worth the overhead that such a feature would introduce.

The background image used by a dynamic dream would again be specific to the dream and if the dream was aware of multiple screens then it could load up multiple images for a background.

The SDK for the dynamic dreams was supposed to be released by now.  I will try to get this out soon as all the files were finished up a long time ago.

Aleatoric
Reply #22 Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:34 PM

Dynamic dreams can already treat the entire space as a single workspace if they wish. Likewise video dreams can be stretched to fill multiple screens - just see the stretch over monitors and fill monitors background settings modes.

Cool. I guess I just didn't notice those settings.

 

Apparently the liquid dream isn't specifically aware of multiple monitors, no matter what background I give it, it gets applied to them all (even if I rename a copy of it to use on another screen). Oh well

Thanks

GregII
Reply #23 Monday, March 29, 2010 9:26 AM

Neil, I'm having a problem with "Stars".  I accidently deleted it and when I downloaded it again it crashes Deskscapes.  All other dreams work fine.  Is there something I'm missing?  Thanks.

Aleatoric
Reply #24 Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:23 PM

just see the stretch over monitors and fill monitors background settings modes.

 

I don't actually see any settings in the configuration window that resembles the above. I've got the latest version, according to Impulse, and I don't see those in either the 'Background Options' dropdown, or on any pane of the 'Settings' dialog.

Is this maybe a feature that hasn't escaped out to the wild yet?

Thanks

Excalpius
Reply #25 Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:08 PM

Note that by copying a new renamed version of a given dream into the Dream directory (say Photodream-B, Photodream-C, etc.) you can have different settings/backgrounds/etc. for each monitor's dream in a multimonitor environment.

I am running my tri-monitor setup that way, so that each monitor is Photodream'ing a different image.  In my case, I selected the same tiling background for all three, so that while the animating image is different on each screen, the background looks seamless between them all.

I hope that helps!

Oh, and the CPU usage in this scenario is basically nil, as each separate dream/screen is GPU accelerated separately.  8)

Neil Banfield
Reply #26 Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:45 PM

Aleatoric

just see the stretch over monitors and fill monitors background settings modes.


 

I don't actually see any settings in the configuration window that resembles the above. I've got the latest version, according to Impulse, and I don't see those in either the 'Background Options' dropdown, or on any pane of the 'Settings' dialog.

Is this maybe a feature that hasn't escaped out to the wild yet?

Thanks

The background options drop down?

The background options should be a tab at the bottom of the UI.

I assume you have Deskscapes 3 or higher?

Aleatoric
Reply #27 Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:09 PM

Unless there's something odd with the installation, I've got what Impulse says is the latest version (about info pasted below).

 

I see the tabs at the bottom of the UI, but there's nothing there about options (I see, with the Desktop Ripples dream, three tabs, Backgrounds, Dynamic Dream Settings, and Effects). None of these produce an option to stretch over monitors, etc.

 

I get exactly the same results (and apparent lack of those options) when I use the individual monitor setup, or the all monitors setup (and for Excalpius, this dream, at least, doesn't do anything different when I copy and rename it, the dream settings persist, regardless).

 

Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 5.9
Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 7.4

DeskScapes appears to be activated on this PC
DeskScapes engine appears to be running
(Generic PnP Monitor) 1 is attached to ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
(Generic PnP Monitor) 2 is attached to ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
(Generic PnP Monitor) 3 is attached to ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

Deskscape.dll                  2010/01/15 11:19:01
Deskscapes.dll                   2009/11/02 10:01:35
DreamControl32.dll                 2009/11/09 09:43:17
DeskscapesConfig.exe                  2010/01/15 11:19:50
UI\Deskscape.dll                2010/01/11 17:27:33
UI\DeskscapesVideo.dll         2009/11/02 10:01:54
DreamTasks.exe                   2009/11/09 12:51:57
DeskscapesVideo.dll              2010/01/11 17:27:22

Neil Banfield
Reply #28 Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:54 PM

The stretch over monitors option only applies to static wallpapers and video dreams not dynamic dreams.

Aleatoric
Reply #29 Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:39 AM

Okay, that's interesting.

The stretch over monitors option only applies to static wallpapers and video dreams not dynamic dreams.

Dynamic dreams can already treat the entire space as a single workspace if they wish. Likewise video dreams can be stretched to fill multiple screens - just see the stretch over monitors and fill monitors background settings modes.

Which of these answers (both from you) is correct, then?

Saying that a dynamic dream can treat the entire space as a single workspace implies that it can be set to present a uniform display over the area defined by multiple monitors.

And if it is a fact that dynamic dreams currently cannot do this, it seems appropriate to state that providing that feature would be an acceptable answer to the question that started this post.

And, I'm not really convinced by the argument that providing these features are too much of a performance hit. How about we get the option, and we can choose to use the feature, or not, as we see fit?

So, that's my answer to your original question. Give us the option to allow dynamic dreams to treat a multiple monitor setup as a single space.

Or, perhaps, since the 'Desktop Ripples' dream is a Stardock premium dream, maybe it can be updated to better handle multiple monitors. Just a thought.

Deskscapes is still better than it was, so that's a net plus, but I'd like to see multiple monitors supported more fully.

Aleatoric
Reply #30 Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:41 AM

Edited, deleted for multiple post (posted the response, but it didn't show up)

Aleatoric
Reply #31 Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:41 AM

Deleted, triple post, posting issue.

Neil Banfield
Reply #32 Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:46 AM

Aleatoric
Okay, that's interesting.


The stretch over monitors option only applies to static wallpapers and video dreams not dynamic dreams.



Dynamic dreams can already treat the entire space as a single workspace if they wish. Likewise video dreams can be stretched to fill multiple screens - just see the stretch over monitors and fill monitors background settings modes.


Which of these answers (both from you) is correct, then?

Saying that a dynamic dream can treat the entire space as a single workspace implies that it can be set to present a uniform display over the area defined by multiple monitors.

And if it is a fact that dynamic dreams currently cannot do this, it seems appropriate to state that providing that feature would be an acceptable answer to the question that started this post.

And, I'm not really convinced by the argument that providing these features are too much of a performance hit. How about we get the option, and we can choose to use the feature, or not, as we see fit?

So, that's my answer to your original question. Give us the option to allow dynamic dreams to treat a multiple monitor setup as a single space.

Or, perhaps, since the 'Desktop Ripples' dream is a Stardock premium dream, maybe it can be updated to better handle multiple monitors. Just a thought.

Deskscapes is still better than it was, so that's a net plus, but I'd like to see multiple monitors supported more fully.

Dynamic dreams can do what they want, but it is up to the developer of those dreams to decide what they want to do.

DrJBHL
Reply #33 Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:17 AM

Neil, thanks for the prompt answer...didn't know the F5 trick. Sorry the thanks are belated. 

Shin-Sabaki
Reply #34 Friday, April 2, 2010 3:43 PM

Hi Neil

I'm not as tech savvy as many of the other guys on here so my ask is rather simple. I want Dreams. More specifically, Dreams created from scratch and not those created from videos.

1. Windmill Dream - Setting Holland, slow turning windmill with tulips swaying in the forground. Triggered Dream maybe?

2. Aquarium Dream - This is a long time coming. An aquarium Dream created for us. Tropical setting, coral, brightly coloured fish.

3. Animated Waterfall - Yeah, as my other requests, fairly generic but if rendered correctly, this could be awesome.

4. Animated Karateka - Setting, Buddhist Temple, karateka in gi performing a kata. Or ninja doing weapons forms.

 

Sorry it's not as intriguing as the others but Deskscapes is ultimately about my desktop and that's what I'd want on it.

Philmoore1
Reply #35 Saturday, April 3, 2010 9:39 AM

I would like to see dreams that will work with desktop X. That would be badass!!! Of I could use a dreamscape background against a desktop x desktop that would be a wonderful thing. Can u do that?

Diamond12a
Reply #36 Thursday, April 8, 2010 3:30 PM

Hi Neil,

 

I am one of the folks having trouble with running Dreams and Fences together on WIN 7 64 bit (Fences "dissappear" and all icons become visible when any dream runs - have worked with tech support for some time with no result that has lasted). I LOVE both programs, and would like to see them run together again soon.

 

I am suspicious that it is the new Feature of Deskscapes 3 that allows users to make icons transparent that is causing Fences to dissappear - so the feature I would love to see is a setting where you can fully disable Deskscapes from having any interaction with icons on the Desktop, and all of its hooks in that regard are removed from the OS.

Thanks!

PS - if you would like me to beta test anything for you let me know  

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