Mozilla 1.0 Officially Released!
Wednesday, June 5, 2002 by jark | Discussion: WinCustomize News
It's finally here! The popular Mozilla browser's first major release, after 4 years of being in development, is now available for download!
UBoB
Reply #2 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 8:46 PM
Reply #2 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 8:46 PM
4 years of spyware development! It should be very stealthfull by now. 
messybuu
Reply #3 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 9:11 PM
Reply #3 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 9:11 PM
Spyware? Well, I must say that this spyware is great! I prefer Netscape because it feels more polished, but I think the point is that Gecko is more than just a great insurance company!
Agit0168
Reply #4 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 9:28 PM
Reply #4 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 9:28 PM
Fast! Themes look good so far, and it's only 11MB installed instead of 40-70mb for the other browsers..... Excluding opera.
GOOD WORK MOZ TEAM!!!
GOOD WORK MOZ TEAM!!!
starone
Reply #5 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 10:11 PM
Reply #5 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 10:11 PM
You might want to try crazy browser. It tabs everything instead of moving from one place to another.
craeonics
Reply #6 Thursday, June 6, 2002 8:44 AM
Reply #6 Thursday, June 6, 2002 8:44 AM
Crazy Browser = IE engine = evil.
craeonics still wants to see the changelog, where did they hide it?
craeonics still wants to see the changelog, where did they hide it?
_Coolballer
Reply #7 Thursday, June 6, 2002 2:07 PM i like IE... but hey.. everyone needs a little spyware
Reply #7 Thursday, June 6, 2002 2:07 PM
i like IE... but hey.. everyone needs a little spyware
cambie
Reply #8 Thursday, June 6, 2002 4:04 PM
Reply #8 Thursday, June 6, 2002 4:04 PM
what in the world are you people talking about spyware for? i have been using mozilla in place of IE for a while now, and i am truly impressed.
dagwinn
Reply #9 Thursday, June 6, 2002 4:05 PM
Reply #9 Thursday, June 6, 2002 4:05 PM
Mozilla 1.0 is such an improvement over Netscape 6. Even the themes are better.
Unfortunately, it still follows the "Let's keep everything trapped in Netscape" formula that I hate. At least with IE, I can set Xnews as my newsreader and Outlook as my e-mail program. With Mozilla, I still have to use what they want me to use.
So close to stealing me away from IE....
Unfortunately, it still follows the "Let's keep everything trapped in Netscape" formula that I hate. At least with IE, I can set Xnews as my newsreader and Outlook as my e-mail program. With Mozilla, I still have to use what they want me to use.
So close to stealing me away from IE....
Risky1
Reply #10 Thursday, June 6, 2002 4:43 PM
Reply #10 Thursday, June 6, 2002 4:43 PM
Spyware..........? Fill me in would you. I have seen no mention of spyware after doing alot of surfing on this new build. I know it is nothing to "advertise"........
UBoB
Reply #11 Thursday, June 6, 2002 7:33 PM
Reply #11 Thursday, June 6, 2002 7:33 PM
Using a packet sniffer I found lots of communications between mozilla and netscape fetching rdf files from 'mychanelvip.netscape.com' and 'mychanelvip2.netscape.com'.
Also, if I switch tabs in the sidebar, especially the history tab, mozilla tries to contact 'find.com', which exists and uses 'ns1.idealab.com' as the dns. The dns returns to 'redirect.la.idealab.com.
I don't know about you but it seems something fishy is going on.
Also, if I switch tabs in the sidebar, especially the history tab, mozilla tries to contact 'find.com', which exists and uses 'ns1.idealab.com' as the dns. The dns returns to 'redirect.la.idealab.com.
I don't know about you but it seems something fishy is going on.
GreenReaper
Reply #13 Friday, June 7, 2002 2:15 AM
Reply #13 Friday, June 7, 2002 2:15 AM
See http://www.mozilla.org/rdf/doc/ for information on what rdf is and why it's used. I think this is also related to the second activity.
craeonics
Reply #14 Friday, June 7, 2002 3:56 AM
Reply #14 Friday, June 7, 2002 3:56 AM
Dagwud, what are you talking about? I use Mozilla as my browser and Calypso as my email client. Works without a single hitch.
dagwinn
Reply #15 Friday, June 7, 2002 9:55 AM
Reply #15 Friday, June 7, 2002 9:55 AM
Craeonics,
Are you suggesting that when you click on the "Mail&Newsgroups" button in Mozilla, it opens up Calypso?
Obviously, you can use the programs independently - I'm using Mozilla as I write this. But with IE, I can integrate them. If I select "Read Mail" from the toolbar or click on a "mailto:" link, Outlook opens up. If I select "Read News" from the toolbar, Xnews opens up. I get to choose the programs I want to use to handle the different protocols. Netscape and Mozilla don't give you the ability to choose. If you want your programs integrated, you have to use their programs.
Are you suggesting that when you click on the "Mail&Newsgroups" button in Mozilla, it opens up Calypso?
Obviously, you can use the programs independently - I'm using Mozilla as I write this. But with IE, I can integrate them. If I select "Read Mail" from the toolbar or click on a "mailto:" link, Outlook opens up. If I select "Read News" from the toolbar, Xnews opens up. I get to choose the programs I want to use to handle the different protocols. Netscape and Mozilla don't give you the ability to choose. If you want your programs integrated, you have to use their programs.
Aaron W.
Reply #16 Saturday, June 8, 2002 7:17 PM
Reply #16 Saturday, June 8, 2002 7:17 PM
I like Moz, but I don't like:
The splash screen (it's both ugly AND annoying!)
The fact that I can't select images on HTML pages! Why only text? WHY?!
The fact that I can't use Hotmail as my mail client, and UltraEdit as my source viewer.
That is all
IE loads quickly, renders all pages nicely (unless they're seriously fubar, which can only be blamed on the drunken designers) and no bloody splash screen.
The splash screen (it's both ugly AND annoying!)
The fact that I can't select images on HTML pages! Why only text? WHY?!
The fact that I can't use Hotmail as my mail client, and UltraEdit as my source viewer.
That is all
IE loads quickly, renders all pages nicely (unless they're seriously fubar, which can only be blamed on the drunken designers) and no bloody splash screen.
craeonics
Reply #17 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:51 AM
Reply #17 Monday, June 10, 2002 8:51 AM
Ah, I don't have mail/news installed, so I don't have those icons. Whenever I click on a mailto link, it launches the appropriate maill app (in this case Calypso).
dagwinn
Reply #18 Monday, June 10, 2002 9:36 AM
Reply #18 Monday, June 10, 2002 9:36 AM
Craeonics, thanks for the tip. I stand "educated", if not corrected. If you install only the browser, it does use your default e-mail program for mailto: links. And this is a definate improvement over Netscape's browser-only installation which still used a Netscape window for e-mail.
craeonics
Reply #19 Monday, June 10, 2002 9:54 AM
Reply #19 Monday, June 10, 2002 9:54 AM
True (but I use Netscape as my mail app at home, so I don't mind that).
scratch_pentagon
Reply #20 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:39 PM
Reply #20 Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:39 PM
Sypher, try http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS in Mozilla, then try it in IE. You're going to tell me that the official CSS page is fubar and the w3c developers are drunken? The only reason IE displays most pages properly is because most designers design them specifically for IE. IE's standard compliance has improved a lot since 5.0, but it is still not as good as Mozilla's. It's not even as good as Opera's (although IE's DOM compliance blows Opera out of the water...)
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Reply #1 Wednesday, June 5, 2002 7:38 PM