My new toy...
I pensioned off the P4/3.0 and dragged my system into the 90's
Monday, June 8, 2009 by Jafo | Discussion: Personal Computing
The old box served well for over half a decade ..... but eventually life was passing me by.... particularly during the FULL boot time being around 10 minutes....
It was [in its day] a fairly decent machine...P4/3.0 in an ASUS P4P800e Deluxe mobo with 2 gig [4x500] ram and eventually about the 'fastest' AGP card still around....a HD3850 with 512 GDDR3...all in an old Lian Li P60, powered by a TruePower 550 Watt PSU.
Then I got hacked....ending up as a mule server for email spam [I think] ... along with my having a Win 7 RC to experiment with prompted me to 'do it' sooner, rather than later.
So, off I went to my fave Comp shop armed with a list...
...and a credit card.
Just a little time later.... I had a boot full of boxes and not much money left.
Thursday last it was....as I get it all home and eagerly started poking and prodding and lots of RTFM-ing.
Friday, and out came the drill and jigsaw to cut a hole into the MoBo tray of the Case ..... so the after-market cooler would fit.... bugger of a bloody big thing it was, too.
By Saturday arvo I was sitting at the dining table with fingers in my ears as I switched it on...no OS, etc....no Keyboard or Mouse .... just to see if lights would come on....and there'd be NO smoke......
They did...and there wasn't.
Sunday...was OS time...so in went Win7 RC1 [32 bit].
Took 4/5ths of eff-all time to install and there it was in all its quasi-Vista 'splendour'.
About the only way to describe it all [other than black - as in the box] was/is "fucking fast".
I ain't got the MoBo drivers all in [Win7 compatibility]...and haven't rebooted yet since the Graphic Card driver install....
Can't even see it in real detail/scale as it's currently on a 17" CRT ....
...and I'm learning all about what won't always work as expected [like Sysmetrix]...but darn it's good...![]()
The 'bits' I already have....to migrate across to the new machine ar the bits that plug in .... The DiNovo Edge KB ...the MS Explorer mouse ...the ASUS M221u LCD....scanners....printers....Logitech G15 wheel and pedals...etc.
What I got....
Lian Li PC-A6010 case [black]
Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w PSU
ASUS P6T-se X58 i7 MoBo
Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz LGA1366 CPU
OCZ 6G-Triple [3x2G] PC12800 Gold Ram
CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler [that bloodey big thing]
Vantec EZ2 Sata hot-swap racks x2
1TB Seagate Sata2 7200 HD x2 [for backup/data]
250G Seagate Sata2 7200 HD x2 [for OS]
ACR-105 Multi card reader
LG Sata DVD-RW x2
XFX 1G GTX285 Black Edition [vid]
When Win7 is finally released I'll opt for the 64bit ver...and possibly double the ram....![]()
Funniest thing is....I thought sysmetrix wasn't working....looking at CPU load and ram usage.....till I looked closer....![]()
Reply #142 Monday, August 17, 2009 11:56 AM
Halfway through installing all the crud one needs these days just to do 'stuff'....
....keeping an eye on my C drive usage....only got 60gig to play with....![]()
Darn thing seems to be quick, though....![]()
Reply #143 Monday, August 17, 2009 12:01 PM
That's why I'm going to wait until SSd's come down in price some... a lot. Leaving plenty of room to spare, I'd need a 120 - 180 gig to manage all my 'crud'
Reply #144 Monday, August 17, 2009 12:55 PM
That along with 64 bit ![]()
Reply #145 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:02 AM
I think the biggest thing I have learned with messing about with Win 7 is....
NEVER EVER install it while you have more than one Harddrive attached to the system.
ONLY have the one you intend the OS to install to.
Latest trick...the Win 7 64 MBR {system] is on my H drive....not on my 'C'....
Not even on a new, hidden unmarked partition on my 'C'.
No, Doze has decided a 1 TB data disk is just spiffingly appropriate to stick the bootloader on.
Now I gotta decide whether to disconnect ALL the drives except 'C' and attempt a fixboot from the DVD....or even IF that'll work.
Or do I just say 'fuck it all'....reformat... DISCONNECT the other drives....and start all over again.
No other OS install has ever been so screwed up.
In case you're wondering...the reason it's an issue is....if you are doing a SYSTEM Image/backup it bloody-well thinks the entire effing 1 TB is 'system' ....along with the piddly 60 gig OS drive.
Reply #147 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:14 AM
NEVER EVER install it while you have more than one Harddrive attached to the system.
Odd.... I had 4 physical drives (and a kazillion partitions) in the box when I installed Win7, and had Vista installed already....
Didn't screw up anything, other than shuffleing the drive letters around - only in Win7 though.
Reply #148 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:30 AM
Not even on a new, hidden unmarked partition on my 'C'.
Hehe, the best, smartest OS MS has ever made.... and you still manage to fuck it up.
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Guess that's another bet yrag has won... the bookies don't stand a chance, do they!! ![]()
Reply #149 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:39 AM
All that cash on a glorified adding machine - what an obscenity ![]()
Reply #150 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:48 AM
At least he didn't spend it on wine, women and a wild night out. ![]()
Reply #151 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:41 PM
Already contacted him as to where to send the money.....
Ain't that the fuckin' truth.
In a perfect world, he could do both.....
In the final analyze I think Jafo is the computer nemesis..... who else could get the OS to install on C drive and the MBR loads up at Grandma's house.....
Reply #152 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:51 PM
Odd. Running three drives, zero issues with both the beta and RC of 7.
Reply #153 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:37 PM
Looks like the 'pain' was due to an earlier install...of Win 7 RC 64bit on another [removable] drive...which popped its bootloader onto the 1TB 'H' drive....then, when installing the new Win 7 RTM 64bit it added itself to the same bootloader thus showing two Win 7s on boot.
'simplest' way was to partition 'away' from the bootloader area and create my own 'hidden' part to leave the crap on.
Now I don't end up with a silly 200gig Image file on each backup....just a 'normal' one...![]()
I think it's now 'safe' to say I have it all the way I want it....even WinAMP's vol control goes both ways with the scrollwheel of the mouse....
It's the little things....![]()
Reply #154 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:46 PM
.....the end of the world is at hand
Reply #155 Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:57 PM
So when does it arrive... um, that was to my place, wasn't it? ![]()
but find a woman (women) who pays for the wine... and the wild night out. ![]()
Like NOT having 200 gig backup files... x2. ![]()
Reply #156 Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:42 PM
System is surprisingly stable.
There are only two issues...PowerDesk Pro 7 sometimes becomes unresponsive when accessing network drives and/or large folders.
and
Kaspersky [still beta] complains it has 'ceased running...please restart, etc' when it is undertaking a full system scan .....and it's dumps are effing huge.
I still haven't added the other 6 gig of ram yet....am wondering what sort of 'hit' I'll take on my 'C' with hyberfil and pagefile.....they'll be even bigger.....and the drive is only 60 gig.
Reply #157 Sunday, November 8, 2009 4:54 AM
Yep....installed the other six once I'd got back from my trip OS.
Now I can have 'several' big Virtual Machines running and still not notice a resource hit.
I thought it was all pretty good getting 106fps ave. with the Benchmark demo of Resident Evil 5 in DX10....
...but then I got back into one of my fave games... SimBin's GTR2....downloading the 2009 mod of the F1 season....and one of the 'old' fun tracks from GP Legends...[Spa 67] and managed between 220 and 280fps at full definition....and even over 100fps on the grid with 22 others [typically a resource-hungry time].
It's a safe bet to say that Win 7, 64bit or otherwise doesn't hurt your game-playing one little bit...![]()
Reply #158 Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:12 PM
Dl'd the Demo of 'Crysis' last night.... to see what it's like.
Appears to be badly coded for workable frame-rates....Res Evil 5 looks just as 'good' but so far appears to be upwards of 4 times faster.
Default average settings give me about 50 to 60 fps.
Pretty hopeless, considering....![]()
Reply #159 Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:18 PM
Bloody ridiculous, ain't it!! The average user/gamer doesn't have/can't get/will never afford a rig capable of running these ultra high-speed games... yet the gaming co's still keep pumping them out. Makes no sense, does it!!
It would be alright if the majority could actually access these extreme speeds, but it can't, so these ultra, rapid rate games pale into insignificance when only a small minority can. I mean, your rig is no slouch (beats mine hands down... and mine ain't exactly slow, either) yet there you are complaing it isn't up to par for Res Evil 5 at default settings. Sorta makes the game redundant if you can't play it (hardware restrictions) to its full potential.
I recently priced parts for an i7 based rig with a GTX295 and 12 gigs of RAM... came up with $3879.95 (AUD) as the best possible price. Not exactly affordable for the average person, is it!!! And how many gamers are gonna be able to come up with that kind of cash after paying out for the latest and greatest games?? Not too many, me thinks.
Like I said, given the high prices on the top-end hardware they were designed for, it makes little sense to keep producing faster and faster games.
Reply #160 Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:10 PM
No...it pisses it in with RE5...no problems at all.
The issue is with Crysis [demo] ...which has much on 'high'...not 'very high'....but at 1680x1050 [native screen res] it's typically 50 to 60 fps.
High-end driving sims...even with 3rd party tracks and vehicle mods can be anywhere between 200 and 300 fps at the same res....![]()
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Reply #141 Monday, August 17, 2009 12:32 AM
Good to hear this news. Was a bit wondering if you where gona get that ss drive and how it was going to act. Win7 64 rtm made a bit of a difference I bet too!
Keep it running there Paul.