My new toy...

I pensioned off the P4/3.0 and dragged my system into the 90's

Monday, June 8, 2009 by Jafo | Discussion: Personal Computing

The old box served well for over half a decade ..... but eventually life was passing me by.... particularly during the FULL boot time being around 10 minutes....

It was [in its day] a fairly decent machine...P4/3.0 in an ASUS P4P800e Deluxe mobo with 2 gig [4x500] ram and eventually about the 'fastest' AGP card still around....a HD3850 with 512 GDDR3...all in an old Lian Li P60, powered by a TruePower 550 Watt PSU.

Then I got hacked....ending up as a mule server for email spam [I think] ... along with my having a Win 7 RC to experiment with prompted me to 'do it' sooner, rather than later.

So, off I went to my fave Comp shop armed with a list...

...and a credit card.

Just a little time later.... I had a boot full of boxes and not much money left.

Thursday last it was....as I get it all home and eagerly started poking and prodding and lots of RTFM-ing.

Friday, and out came the drill and jigsaw to cut a hole into the MoBo tray of the Case ..... so the after-market cooler would fit.... bugger of a bloody big thing it was, too.

By Saturday arvo I was sitting at the dining table with fingers in my ears as I switched it on...no OS, etc....no Keyboard or Mouse .... just to see if lights would come on....and there'd be NO smoke......

They did...and there wasn't.

Sunday...was OS time...so in went Win7 RC1 [32 bit].

Took 4/5ths of eff-all time to install and there it was in all its quasi-Vista 'splendour'.

About the only way to describe it all  [other than black - as in the box] was/is "fucking fast".

I ain't got the MoBo drivers all in [Win7 compatibility]...and haven't rebooted yet since the Graphic Card driver install....

Can't even see it in real detail/scale as it's currently on a 17" CRT ....

...and I'm learning all about what won't always work as expected [like Sysmetrix]...but darn it's good...

The 'bits' I already have....to migrate across to the new machine ar the bits that plug in .... The DiNovo Edge KB ...the MS Explorer mouse ...the ASUS M221u LCD....scanners....printers....Logitech G15 wheel and pedals...etc.

What I got....

Lian Li PC-A6010 case [black]

Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w PSU

ASUS P6T-se  X58 i7 MoBo

Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz LGA1366 CPU

OCZ 6G-Triple [3x2G] PC12800 Gold Ram

CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler [that bloodey big thing]

Vantec EZ2 Sata hot-swap racks x2

1TB Seagate Sata2 7200 HD x2 [for backup/data]

250G Seagate Sata2 7200 HD x2 [for OS]

ACR-105 Multi card reader

LG Sata DVD-RW x2

XFX 1G GTX285 Black Edition [vid]

 

When Win7 is finally released I'll opt for the 64bit ver...and possibly double the ram....

Funniest thing is....I thought sysmetrix wasn't working....looking at CPU load and ram usage.....till I looked closer....

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starkers
Reply #21 Monday, June 8, 2009 10:44 PM

[October-ish], by which time a further 6 gig may be somewhat cheaper.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that if I were you.  I've been watching Oz prices for some months now (due to my own upgrade), and while some prices are minimally dropping, DDR3 RAM is either static or going up a few dollars here and there.  That's partly why I went with an AMD Phenom II x4 920 instead of the i7... DDR2 (which I already had) works with the Phenom. Yup, I would have gone the i7 route, but the DDR3 priced me right out of going that way, being I had to replace my PSU and GPU as well.

Come October, though, who knows???

A lot depends on how well the AUD is faring against the greenback at the time, whether or not suppliers pass on any savings IF it improves... which, given my recent experience purchasing the Phenom, is something they hold off on for as long as possible.... if they do at all. Some will claim "old Stock", but my CPU was manufactured and shipped in April 09, after the AUD had risen to 70c + against the USD, yet I still paid the February price, when the AUD was hovering around 50c -55c to the US $

*Can blame Paul Keating for a lot of that... he's the one who floated the AUD, deregulated banks (so they can cash in on it all with currency conversion and other exorbitant fees) and dismantled price control/indexation.*

We in Oz have always paid more for our PC harware/software than our US counterparts, so let's hope things improve some and that DDR3 (plus other items) drops in price... cos yeah, I'd also like to upgrade to an i7 next year sometime.

pjdark
Reply #22 Monday, June 8, 2009 10:52 PM

Congrats on the new rig Jafo!  

storm347
Reply #23 Monday, June 8, 2009 10:54 PM

congrats on your new system

Jafo
Reply #24 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:07 AM

We in Oz have always paid more for our PC harware/software than our US counterparts, so let's hope things improve some and that DDR3 (plus other items) drops in price... cos yeah, I'd also like to upgrade to an i7 next year sometime.

The pain of the 'bottom line' was the entire kit and kaboodle ended up almost exactly $3000 AUD.

V8 fan is pointing the right way...so all's good there...no need to alter it.

Only thing 'wrong' was the HD Led connection was arse-about and thus not working - 'tis now...

ASUS MoBo disk keeps saying it's not compatible with the OS....so I've been installing drivers, etc manually.

Re the price.... I think back to that first 'new' computer I ever bought [that wasn't a hand-me-down] .... a P100 with 8 meg of ram and a 1 gig drive and 4 meg graphic card .... it was over $2100 way back when the USD was worth more than dunny paper....

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #25 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:28 AM

ASUS MoBo disk keeps saying it's not compatible with the OS....so I've been installing drivers, etc manually.

That will be changing here really fast in the next few weeks I think Paul.

Bunch of new drivers are in the making for those asus boards. Specfic win7... Really not much to change to get it to work.

Glad you figured your work around.

Dr.Gonzo
Reply #26 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:53 AM

Super Pi to 1.0m numbers, do you have them?

 

-DrGonzo

starkers
Reply #27 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 1:29 AM

Re the price.... I think back to that first 'new' computer I ever bought [that wasn't a hand-me-down] .... a P100 with 8 meg of ram and a 1 gig drive and 4 meg graphic card .... it was over $2100 way back when the USD was worth more than dunny paper....
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Given the way things have been recently, the Oz dollar isn't worth dunny paper, even.  Maybe a snotty, used tissue, but not a lot more.  Moreover, given that PC parts have dropped in price around the World since your P100, considerably more than here, we are still paying too much.... and probably always will be.  Sad, isn't it, cos we're 'downunder' people think we're the arse end of the World and uneducated as to what PC parts should cost.

Irrespective of all that, my anger that we're being ripped off, I'm glad that you got the upgrade you wanted.  May you get many years of enjoyment from it...

... though I imagine several years of frustration for yrag.

Despite not being able to afford an i7 upgrade this time around, my Phenom II is the bees knees compared to what I had and I'm happy with its performance.

Jafo
Reply #28 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:32 AM

Well....it's still going strong....even the 'important' proggies [Games] work ....simple copy/paste from the other machine too.... [Important means.... rFactor and GTR2].

Only difference is...I set it all to the max and it flies....at last.....real frame-rates....

Hawawaa
Reply #29 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 11:57 AM

Im sooo close to my new PC AHGGGG!! DAMN  IT ALL SOOO CLOSE!

starkers
Reply #30 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:21 PM

Only difference is...I set it all to the max and it flies....at last.....real frame-rates....

See!!!  Told you that you were an effing show off, and this ^ proves it... wink, wink, nudge nudge - say no more.

Zyxpsilon
Reply #31 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 12:51 PM

starkers
A lot depends on how well the AUD is faring against the greenback at the time, whether or not suppliers pass on any savings IF it improves...

Which reminds me, commerce never had a knack for timely but fair adjustments to pricing variations as with the GST tax proved twice & over in Canada -- regional principles aside, we buy a Japanese car here and get shipping & handling costs MUCH higher than in Australia.

Strangely, even the US tried that gimmicky process on our Lumber under free-trade agreements. I guess they couldn't keep their word and that their signature is still worthless.

When a barrel of crude black gold spikes at 140$ and within months plunges back to 60$ or less, it puts Dinars in perspective and fills your tank with delayed truth for abusive costs.

PC hardwares included.

Trouble is, who keeps track of a dealer cards at a poker table when your hands are loaded with luck & bluff rules any result.

CAD at 90+ rather than 75 lately, is the greenback losing its value or MY purchasing power gaining on it? Get in some stores and see for yourselves.

starkers
Reply #32 Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:47 PM

CAD at 90+ rather than 75 lately,

At present the AUD is trading at 80c in the US dollar. Now while 20c mightn't seem like a lot, it soon mounts up on larger purchases, so you can well imagine PC component prices when we were trading at just on 50c - 55c in the USD... even on *say* Gigabyte motherboards for Taiwan, because (just like oil) USD is the recognised/accepted currency.

Which reminds me, commerce never had a knack for timely but fair adjustments to pricing variations

As was proven with my purchase of the Phenom II!   It was manufactured and shipped in April 2009, purchased in May when the AUD was trading at 74c... yet I paid the (old stock) February price when it was trading at below 55c.  Had the saving been passed on, I would have paid around AUD $270 ish and not the $330 retail price... 310 with store discount for valued customers.  And like the store owner explained, his markup was less than 5%, so somebody is profiteering bigtime.

Strangely, even the US tried that gimmicky process on our Lumber under free-trade agreements. I guess they couldn't keep their word and that their signature is still worthless.

Ah yes, the 'Free Trade Agreement"!!!  When John Howard was 'trying' to negotiate that for Australia, opposition to it came crawling out of the woodwork from all over, for that very reason.... that we'd get screwed.  And sure enough, with the Oz dollar never on a par with the greenback (and deliberatley kept that way), that's exactly what's happening.... we are paying more for imported goods and getting less for our exports, given that the USD is the accepted currency, even in Asia.  Of course that's not the only reason we pay more... we have our own profiteering Capitalist pigs who seek constantly to screw their own people.

 

Jafo
Reply #33 Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:09 AM

Getting there.....the Toy now has Impulse and SDC installed.....

canadakiller
Reply #34 Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:44 AM

I'm thinking of upgrading my graphics card. I have a run-of-the-mill proc, a Core 2 Extreme X6800 (the fastest back in its day), but I hear that ARMA II doesn't like the 8800 very much, so I may upgrade to a GTX295. I have this notion that I must only upgrade to whatever is top of the line, so I can upgrade less in the future.

gmc2
Reply #35 Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:59 PM

canadakiller
I'm thinking of upgrading my graphics card. I have a run-of-the-mill proc, a Core 2 Extreme X6800 (the fastest back in its day), but I hear that ARMA II doesn't like the 8800 very much, so I may upgrade to a GTX295. I have this notion that I must only upgrade to whatever is top of the line, so I can upgrade less in the future.

I think to an extent that is true however I would also think that the rest of the equipment could have some impact on performance as well???

starkers
Reply #36 Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:19 PM

Getting there.....the Toy now has Impulse and SDC installed....

Ah, so now it really IS heavy artillery.   Glad to hear it's all going well.

Thrawn2787
Reply #37 Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:29 PM

Getting there.....the Toy now has Impulse and SDC installed.....

 

Wait what? Stardock central? Ithought that died quite awhile ago...

ShelbyGT_The_Car
Reply #38 Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:39 PM

Nothing ever dies for a Member Elite! We have it all and can always get whatever it is there ever was or is.

With the new updates that just rolled out Jafo - you should have very little problems with win7 anywhere! Glad to hear things are going well.

Jafo
Reply #39 Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:50 PM

Ah...one 'quaint' issue.....Win7 decided to put a 'system reserved' partition [100meg] on my 'D' HD....the one I want to be able to hot-swap out ....and now I can't.

So I either have to work out a way of relocating the partition....or re-install the OS...and make sure I don't have the drive connected at the time.

Error is 'explorer has been removed...do you want to delete it?'

Now I'm so 'lost' I'm not even confident which drive has the OS....both are identical [250g seagates]...

yrag
Reply #40 Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:16 AM

What...????????????

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