Hannukah and Christmas - An explanation for my non-Jewish friends
Thursday, December 11, 2008 by DrJBHL | Discussion: Community
2. Christmas is a major holiday. Chanukah is a minor holiday with the same theme as most Jewish holidays: They tried to kill us, we survived, let's eat.
3. Christians get wonderful presents such as jewelry, perfume, stereos, etc. Jews get practical presents, books, etc., and mostly gifts for the children.
4. There is only one way to spell Christmas. No one can decide how to spell Chanukah, Chanukkah, Chanukka, Channukah, Hanukah, Hannukah, etc. (in Hebrew there's only one way to spell it, not that it helps us any explaining why there are so many spellings).
5. Christmas is a time of great pressure for husbands and boyfriends. Their partners expect special gifts. Jewish men are relieved of that burden. No one expects a diamond ring on Hanukah.
6. Christmas brings enormous electric bills. Candles are used for Chanukah. Not only are we spared enormous electric bills, but we get to feel good about not contributing to the energy crisis.
7. Christmas carols are beautiful...Silent Night, Come All Ye Faithful. Chanukah songs are about dreidels made from clay or having a party and dancing the hora. Of course, we are secretly pleased that many of the beautiful carols were composed and written by our tribal brethren. And don't Barbara Streisand and Neil Diamond sing them beautifully?
8. A home preparing for Christmas smells wonderful like the sweet smell of cookies and cakes baking. Happy people are gathered around in festive moods. A home preparing for Chanukah smells of oil, potatoes and onions. The home, as always, is full of loud people all talking at once.
9. Christian women have fun baking Christmas cookies. Jewish women burn their eyes and cut their hands grating potatoes and onions for latkes (potato pancakes) on Chanukah. Another reminder of our suffering through the ages.
10. The players in the Christmas story have easy to pronounce names such as Mary, Joseph and Jesus. The players in the Chanukah story are Antiochus, Judah Maccabee and Mattatiahu whatever. No one can spell it or pronounce it. On the plus side, we can tell our friends anything and they believe we are wonderfully versed in our history.
11. In recent years, Christmas has become more and more commercialized. The same holds true for Chanukah, even though it is a minor holiday. It makes sense. How could we market a major holiday such as Yom Kippur (The Day of Atonement)? Forget about celebrating. Think observing. Come to synagogue, starve yourself for 27 hours, become one with your dehydrated soul, beat your chest, confess your sins, a guaranteed good time for you and your family. Tickets a mere $200 per person. Better stick with Chanukah. However you spell it.
Reply #22 Friday, December 12, 2008 5:06 AM
Zu, all yr family you just mentioned, you all have been given biblical names, even yrs Aaron, was that done on purpose? I know alot of families do that..... its not an issue, its cool with me, just wondering.
In relation to xmas....i was actually brought up in the belief that it was pagan, and we didnt celebrate it... (religious family)
nowdays...i dont really have many feelings for xmas, but i do love the pressies and I do love how people's mood changes from grumpy to really happy ect..... its nice.
We used to celebrate passover as well.........
Reply #23 Friday, December 12, 2008 7:28 AM
AuFish, Tailsgirl and Kitty thanks for noticing the post and for having fun here! Kaazz thanks!
I think all names are good...except those that start with 's' and end with 't'.
Before you start Po', "Skinhit" isn't a name, it's a 'nick' and therefore exempt from the above!
Reply #24 Friday, December 12, 2008 7:35 AM
Heya Doc, you always find interesting stuff to post, of course we noticed ![]()
Reply #26 Friday, December 12, 2008 8:08 AM
Love that post. As i was reading it, I could even hear Adam Sandlers "Eight Crazy Nights"....with a bit of Bing Crosby "White Christmas" weaving through the melody. Yikes...that is scary. ![]()
Reply #27 Friday, December 12, 2008 8:25 AM
Nightmarish at best, Immy. Now I won't sleep tonite! I may never post again. Seems always to go awry, somehow. ![]()
Reply #28 Friday, December 12, 2008 8:46 AM
Doc, ya didn't know her daddy, when he did look at me when I went to pick her up, I'd have been dead if eyes could kill. He rarely spoke to me.
Reply #29 Friday, December 12, 2008 9:08 AM
Well WOM, it was his loss. People who can't celebrate diversity are losers imo. They lose the wonderful variety of people to enjoy and understand better thereby improving their own lives and the lives of others...a 'ripple' thing, you know.
My memories are full of wonderful little spicey and pungent flavors...my cooking, but seasoned by others....a feast! ![]()
Reply #30 Friday, December 12, 2008 9:42 AM
As far as that bit about the onions and potatoes, I can tell you, that smell can be a familiar Christmas smell, too, if you happen to have immigrant grandparents from Germany (can you imagine the smell of cookies, kuchens, AND pototoes and onions?)
OK, sweety...you know me and Murphy's Laws, right? Weeeeelllllll......
I'm gonna try to help you understand "us" from within....by our tool: Humor. I'll put translations in parentheses so (as Molly Goldberg would say) "You should understand noch besser (better yet)." Translations and explanations in brown...the color of my luck. (You shouldn't know from it!). Sephardic (Eastern) Jews use words in Arabic or Ladino (Hebrew + Spanish) to convey similar concepts. European Jews use Yiddish (Hebrew + German).
We've all heard it, read it, and, as Jews, definitely lived it: "Murphy's Law" or some version of: "If anything can go wrong it will."
But who is this Murphy anyway? Do we know him? Does he know from "going wrong?" We all know who the real experts are in this department. Us.
Who, more than Jews have had higher hopes and rainier parades? Step one: Ironic/sardonic humor while addressing our (admittedly) not so hot history (VICTIMS)! LAUGH ABOUT WHAT HURTS (but stick the needle in so "they" should understand).
Remember: "They tried to kill us, we beat them, EAT!" (summing up our holidays).
I say, Murphy-Shmurphy! His real name was probably Hyman Murphosky, an old-world haberdasher from Minsk, who, expecting to prosper, bought a used steam machine that shmutzed and burned so much of his inventory, that Hymie's son, Melvin, had to forego his medical education to pinch fedoras. "Oy-oy-oy," cried Murphosky the elder, while his son sat, hunched over and pinching.
"If anything can be farpatshekt (messed up), trust me - hold onto your hat! Personally, there should be a law. "
From there, it was only a hop, skip, and jump to a compendium of Murphosky's Law(s). So in honor of Hymie and Melvin Murphosky, I bring you examples of MURPHOSKY'S LAW ...plus a few corollaries.
MURPHOSKY'S LAWS
* When guests ask what you'd like for your Birthday and you say: "Feh! All I want is your company," that's all you'll get. You minimize and hope for more: Forget it. Practical presents or gor nisht (nothing).
* If you tell your child he should take up a career that makes him happy, he'll become a mime.
* After you've won the "Manischewitz Matzoh ball Cook-off," your mother-in-law will always say: "Could use a little salt." You can NEVER satify a "Jewish Mother". To do so you would remove the WMD: Guilt!
* If you're right 100% of the time, who cares? No one will listen anyway. Abandon hope all ye who enter here! In other words it's pointless, "I'll never succeed because to do so they'd have to admit I'm right and WORSE: I'm no longer a victim!"
* No matter how much of a bargain you get, your sister-in-law will get it cheaper To wit: You can't win NYAHHHH!
* Tell your daughter and son-in-law, "Go on vacation, darlings, there will be other Mother's Days," and you'll get a postal card from Aruba. Ahhhh....the WMD in action! Guilt! AND, if you don't succeed you win anyway because they'll be miserable there and JUST WAIT til they return and you can tell them how much you were alone and missing them (you weren't and didn't but YOU WIN!).
* If your mother says everything's all right, call 911, as something's very very wrong. You can NEVER believe at face value. The kvetcher (complainer) if a Jewish Mother (and they are pros) NEVER minimalize except to cause guilt and doubt.
* No matter what you cook, everything will taste like chicken. Irony
* The more expensive the carpet, the greater the probability of a borscht stain.
* If anything can go wrong it will ... when Mr. Murphosky's mother is visiting. Whatever can go wrong and will AT THE WORST MOMENT!
* Everything that has gone wrong for anyone else, went less wrong than it did for you. This is close to the nucleus....vital that you are the "Ultimate Victim!"
* Call something a minor problem, and some "maven's" sure to turn it into a big tsimmis. The "Authority" phenomenon will have you travel to the Rochester or Mayo Clinic because your kid's runny nose could well be Bubonic Plague or Brain Cancer (tfoo, tfoo <= against the evil eye). You forgot to plug the computer in....turns into a law suit againt Dell. Based usually on "GUILT" (WMD) which is "the gift that goes on giving".
* Teach your parrot Yinglish, and his first will be "yutz" - to your boss. No matter how hard you try, the results will be farkakt (beshitted).
* Always assume the bottle is half-full- unless it's your last bottle of diet Dr. Pepper in which case your brother-in-law, the chazzer (pig), will drink it.
* Whenever you wake up to write a brilliant joke for your act on a napkin, your mother will decide to "tidy up" - at 6 a.m - for the garbage man or because the maid is coming and "G-d Forbid" the house should be dirty...what would the maid think?.
* No matter how many times you try for roast beef, it'll come out brisket.
* Tell your daughter, "Go, you might meet somebody," and she will - a doctor named Mohammed. Nu? Beginning to understand? Irony. To the older generation you'll get what you want only if getting it will make you unhappy.
* Try to teach a meshugener (crazy person) something, and not only will you become meshugge (crazy), but he'll be better at it.
Reply #31 Friday, December 12, 2008 9:47 AM
Miriam was named Miriam because she was the sister of the biblical Aaron (and his show-off brother Moses) and I wanted one more connection with her.
Had Gwendolyn been a boy she whould have been Anakin George becuase one of my best memories of mt father was going to see Star Wars as a child and my father-in-law is George. After the new trilogy came out we didn't think it a good idea as a boy's name for Miriam. She would have been Elijah George in once-removed rememberance of Isaac Asimov (and biblical still!).
I'm a firm believer that we need to reinforce a connection with our past. Something the Jewish faith/people does so much better than most Christian faiths.
Reply #32 Friday, December 12, 2008 12:36 PM
Doc - THAT was some funny stuff. For the most part, everything you described there has been part of my past. My mother is first generation (and only child) of German immigrants (i.e., "peasants"). There are a few differences in my story from yours, mainly your people seem to be more successful than mine (even though they don't acknowledge it, because they cherish the right to be victims), and mine don't acknowledge they're victims because they're still trying to make the priniciples from the book "The Secret" manifest (gotta make that "power of positive thinking" work, and since it hasn't so far, that means we have to try/lie that much harder!)
I love this saying of yours: "Remember: "They tried to kill us, we beat them, EAT!" I can appreciate it so much more, being married to someone who is Native American (Google "Andrew Jackson" "Creek Indians" and "Battle at Horseshoe Bend" -- everytime my husband looks at a $20 bill, he gets to see the face of the guy who swore he'd exterminate his tribe. Can you imagine what your life would be like if Hitler's face was on the $20?)
...Had Gwendolyn been a boy she whould have been Anakin George becuase one of my best memories of mt father was going to see Star Wars as a child and my father-in-law is George...
I'm a firm believer that we need to reinforce a connection with our past. Something the Jewish faith/people does so much better than most Christian faiths.
Zubaz, I named my kids Biblical names: Levi, Elise (form of Elizabeth), and Josiah. Had I known at the time that we would be losing our faith, I would have named them something else. They've always had to go through life having their name pronounced wrong (for some reason people want to pronounce them Lev-ee, Elsie, and Joshua). They would have liked to have been named Muadib, Ophelia, and John. I'm pretty sure their father wouldn't have been cool with those names, though.
Reply #33 Friday, December 12, 2008 1:11 PM
Karen, glad you enjoyed the funnies.
More seriously: Here's the good news: Hitler and Jackson are both dead while your husband and I are alive and laughing. I do agree, though that seeing his face would be distasteful for yoiur husband...sooooo...(I'm not advocating this, LOL) your husband could draw a mustache/devil horns or vampire teeth on the offending object.
Also re: "success"...baloney. Loving and being loved are the only measures of success that count, really.
Also....I have a Native American name also (worked on the Pima Reservation in 1964). It's "Dances With Germs".
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Reply #34 Friday, December 12, 2008 1:34 PM
Same here kitty. Got my first Christmas tree as an adult. Ironically, my parents started having a tree on Christmas after we all moved out......go figure ![]()
Reply #35 Friday, December 12, 2008 1:36 PM
You sure have a way with words ![]()
Reply #36 Friday, December 12, 2008 1:59 PM
Also....I have a Native American name also (worked on the Pima Reservation in 1964). It's "Dances With Germs".
You are, indeed, a courageous warrior, to earn that name! (Germs aren't as large as a pack of wolves, but they can be just as deadly).
Reply #37 Friday, December 12, 2008 2:06 PM
interesting read doc....amusing comparisons.....thanks for that... ![]()
An article on Santa I always get a giggle reading...
https://forums.wincustomize.com/?aid=57519
(copy/paste to new browser)
Reply #38 Friday, December 12, 2008 3:26 PM
Sydney! Thanx for droppin' by. mate! Throw a great, huge prawn on the barbie for me!!!! Gonna go look now.
Glad you enjoyed!
Reply #39 Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:54 PM
December 25th was actually a pagan holiday. It was the Roman day to celebrate Sol Invivtus Sun God, 4th century AD). During the reign of Constantine the date for Christ's birth was set at December 25th so it would not be a big transition for those who were not yet Christians to accept. Most experts in Biblical archeology agree that Christ's birth would have been in the spring (lambing season) hence the shepards in the fields. It was also probably 3-4 years earlier than noted by our current calender due to errors made when the calender was compiled. By this time the church was made up of Pauline Christians not Jewish Christians.
I know, I watch way too much History Channel.
Reply #40 Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:24 PM
December 25th was actually a pagan holiday. It was the Roman day to celebrate Sol Invivtus Sun God, 4th century AD). During the reign of Constantine the date for Christ's birth was set at December 25th so it would not be a big transition for those who were not yet Christians to accept. Most experts in Biblical archeology agree that Christ's birth would have been in the spring (lambing season) hence the shepards in the fields. It was also probably 3-4 years earlier than noted by our current calender due to errors made when the calender was compiled. By this time the church was made up of Pauline Christians not Jewish Christians.
I know, I watch way too much History Channel.
Well, if you feel that way....it'll be....ahem....history. ![]()
Glad t'see your post here, angus mate!
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Reply #21 Friday, December 12, 2008 4:56 AM
The angel said very cheerfully, "Merry Christmas, Santa. Isn't this a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you. Where would you like me to stick it?"
,,,,,,,, And so began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas tree........
LMAO!!!
I.. don't think I'll be impaling.. err.. placing, any angels on my tree this year 