Nope, I won't ever vote for him (takes quite a few years to get citizenship). And it's right there at the end of my message: "I know Obama, Biden and a lot of other politicians are probably much the same".

Petty, really? She's the one campaigning on a fiscal responsibility platform. And what about all those earmarks? She asked for quite a lot of them and now she's saying those are bad. Again, the problem is not the debt or the earmarks in themself, it's the gap between what she says now and her past actions. And what does her popularity has to do with that? You rightly pointed out that democrats are popular among non-tax paying voters, and this sure does not make their tax proposals any better.

There is another yahoo email she used, and thankfully was not hacked into. I'm not arguing that there's anything damaging to her reputation in here. The point is she has to use the state provided emails for conducting state business. It's not that hard, do not use non-secure private emails for state business! And she was found in violation of ethics rules. That's not bias, that's fact. Now, we can argue whether complying with state rules is important or not from an ethic viewpoint. Some won't find it to be a big deal and that's fine. But I do find it pretty important.

Highly biased, huh ok. I'm not saying that she does not want people to see she's incompetent, that would be biased. She did interviews and debates as mayor and governor, and none of those are bad. So, why do you think she doesn't want do take a few hours and do interviews? Every other candidate does. I don't understand her strategy here really. What would be an unbiased viewpoint according to you?

And I bet you would probably make them look like idiots. But you're not running for office, she does. If she's indeed qualified, there are plenty of journalists waiting to ask her questions... She did incredibly bad in her few interviews, and I think she needs to correct that perception. If she did not take much interest in it in the past, there is nothing wrong with that, but at least be humble about it.

If you had the possibility to meet with foreign leaders as part of your job, would you pass the opportunity? She had the money to travel, the credentials to meet with the right people and she sure wants to further her carreer. Why she didn't do it earlier I would like to know.

Indeed there are, but at least he's talking... And I didn't bring up the witchcraft thing, the various links to AIP, the fact that she seems to think God gave her a mission (scary to me for the potential implications). All those things are starting to surface and there is not enough information to really know if they are important or not (some of them will probably end up being just false accusations, others need some explanation from Palin). And yep, it's the same thing with Obama, ACORN and his past relationships with some people. 

And the original question was about Palin, still you bring up Obama all the time, as if the fact that he's done the same or worse would make her own actions look better. We can discuss Obama too, I have a long list of things I don't like about him. In fact, the list is probably longer since I actually know about his policies...

We'll agree to disagree on this one... but I liken it to my giving up drinking...I am a former drinker

Aw, now that's not nice... just cos he was playing catch the handgrenade with a Taliban general. hoping of course it would go off in the other guy's hand.

I have tried to go through this post with an open mind, very hard to do.

What I see here is that if we expect 'Fair & Balanced Reporting' from the media we all will be waitng for a long time.

Also, based on the recent campaign shouting, if we expect honest and truthful comments from either politicial candidates/parties, it will be snowing in that hot place before that happens.

Of course this is just my opinion, hopefully worth at least as much as everyone's own.

So being a drinker is now the equivalent of being a cop killer? Riiiight. Not exactly the best example you could make.

Sigh...no more living beyond my means...starting first thing...tomorrow.

OMG!  McCain is immortal!

Dude Who First Called Barack Obama a "Muslim" Not Exactly a Kosher Character

"Holy God. This is Anthony R. Martin-Trigona? Oh, yeah. I grew up on Martin-Trigona nuttiness in Champaign in the 70s. He has a history as long as your arm. He has been in some seriously strange stuff"

Meet Andy Martin, the man responsible for starting the whole "Barack Obama is a Wahhabi jihadist who pals around with terrorists" rumor that has since been picked up and repeated ad nauseum by everyone from nativist idiots at McCain-Palin rallies to Governor Palin herself!

Back in 2004, Martin—described in the New York Times with the funniest caption of all time, "Andy Martin is known for filing many lawsuits"—put out a press release claiming that "Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion." Four years later, his demonstrably false claim has managed to gain traction, to the point that nice ladies are calling Obama an "Arab" at town-hall-style meetings.

Last week, Martin went on Fox News' Hannity's America to argue—with no resistance from Sean Hannity himself—that Obama had once trained to overthrow the government. The Times did some digging into Martin's background, and, not so surprisingly, found a man who is not exactly mentally balanced. Literally: "[Martin] is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of 'moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.'"

During his 30-year career as a failed politician and "prodigious filer of lawsuits," Martin also once referred to a judge as a "crooked, slimy Jew who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race," and noted, "I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did."

A producer for Hannity's America defended the decision to have Martin on the program by saying that he was expressing his opinion and not necessarily fact. Well, yes: while technically true, that does not not necessarily make it any less absurd that Fox did not disclose the fact that Martin once ran for Congress as a Democrat in Connecticut to try "to exterminate Jew power."

Still, Martin, who in March claimed that Barack Obama "locked the grandmother who raised him away in a closet" in order to allow him to "pretend he has no white relatives," says he is not responsible for random people on the Internet taking his words and twisting them. "They Google 'Islam' and 'Obama' and my stuff comes up and they take that and they use that—like a Christmas tree, and they decorate it," he says. Oh, the pratfalls of being a respected "citizen journalist!"

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His own family says he was Muslim when he was younger and doesn't know why he is denying it. What more proof do you need?. If he acknowledges he is Muslim he will lose votes due to our conflict with Muslim Extremists, which is why he obviously hasn't.

Neither is Obama, for all you know he has Cancer and could end up dying 6 months into his Presidency. It's not like he hasn't hidden anything from the American people, right?

I am sure that you are well aware that Palin's remarks were in regard to Ayers and not about Obama being a Muslim or a jihad terrorist so why do you mix the two together and then complain of others dispensing false information?   Oh well, just more "pot and kettle" stuff!

So what if he is/ was Muslim?  There are some scary people involved that are just as dangerous with their religion.

You may want to watch the movie Obsession for your answer. I am confident you will change your tune.  This was filmed a few years ago (well before Obama) and one of the quotes by the Muslim extremists (besides cutting off American heads) was that they would enter the White House from within.  They would get in and change the White House in the same way (we know now) they got into this country and trained by this country to bomb our towers.

Now that is a scary quote when you watch this like three years later especially with Obama saying if push comes to shove he will side with the Muslims. 

Is this what we want in the White House?  Are we going to be infiltrated from within much like England is now?  They are having problems over there in their small towns.  My friend sent me an email and this is a portion of what she said:

"I agree with the movie ... Americans are putting their heads in the sand to avoid confrontation.  It will happen much too soon.  I agree with your friend from England.  When I was over there last year, my friend drove me through Keighley.  Every person I saw was Pakistani (or Pakistani descent).  An entire town!  It used to be a quaint English town.  No longer."

I still haven't found out how Obama was funded for his education.  How did he get into Harvard?   One rumor that has persisted is that he was funded by the Muslims. 

If this is true (and I can't find anything to the contrary) then how do we know what we're in for if he becomes President.

Obviously not your intention, but IMHO, you are making Craig's point!

You missed the point.  Biden is, by far, more able to take over than Palin.

LOL, the irony!  THE IRONY!  Has McCain released his medical records yet?

If I remove all the fear from your post I am left with the possibility that Obama has taken what good he got from Muslim beliefs and adapted to form his own christian beliefs.

How did you come to form your beliefs?

Personally I beleive we should be feeding the aborted babies to the starving polar bears.  

I vote we feed the homeless to the hungry.

Ya know, if they could just find some way to collect all the volatile organic compounds and methane from all the human fertilizer being dumped into threads like this we would be energy independent by now.  Nobody light a match now the whole web go down.

For all you partisan peoples, CNN has a good article on Obama's policy agreements in common with Bush. And then theres this slew of links http://boards.real.com/showthread.php?t=29259. We're hosed either way it goes. All everyone is arguing about now is the length and color of the hose. Oh, and whether or not we go with nylon brading or straight up rubber.

Ohhh I like this one too..

That's some very minced meat there, Seansky -

First of all, Palin herself never said anything about 'Wahhabi jihadist'.  You're as bad as Martin when it comes to confabulating unrelated shit together.  Bill Ayers is what he is, and BO did more than just 'pal around' with him.