Hyperdesk

by The Skins Factory

Sunday, April 13, 2008 by messiah1 | Discussion: Customization Software

So with Hyperdesk just around the corner, is this finally some competition for WindowBlinds?  How well will TSF and Stardock play together?  I know TSF used to contribute here, but they don't show up much anymore, at least with content.  I'm anxiously awaiting the release and can't wait to see DarkMatter.  Hurry up Jeff.  

What are your thoughts?

 

*UPDATE:  Hyperdesk is live.  Go check it out and leave your constructive  comments about it here.  (Notice I didn't say "only leave your good comments or bash it".  Constructive comments can be positive or negative but should be supported with facts.)

 

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messiah1
Reply #41 Monday, April 14, 2008 10:00 PM
I've always been a big fan of the art produced by the SF...the only downside was the medium...WMP just dosnt look good with its bitmapped edge limitaions.(thats why I switched to Xion,I just wanted something to play music that matched my WB's)(that wasnt bitmapped)


I've wondered for some time how awesome a TSF Xion skin would be...
Jafo
Reply #42 Monday, April 14, 2008 10:06 PM

Skinning's 'engine' has moved on over the years.  Anyone who skinned for pre '1' Windowblinds has seen the development/improvement/s that people now enjuy with the skinning of WB '6'.

The same applies for/with Winamp...from the days when Fli7e found it could be skinned [last millenium - always sounds good like that] to the current vers...enhanced by the kJofol coder [name escapes me] back around WA3 there's a very real difference in "what can be done".

The same applies with WB vs a uxtheme.dll patch.

Sure it takes [maybe more] skill to create a 'wow-factor' skin within old tech, but the reality is going to be that more success will be had wow-ing the public with new tech's capabilities.

TSF's team managed to successfully push WMP skinning to its artistic boundaries, and likely may just do similarly with theme patching the MS GUI, but it's not so much a case of gilding the lilly as gilding the dinosaur.

I find it hard to see how a tech that can and is frequently broken by updates to the OS it's intended to skin can be seen as 'stable'.  Someone has a whole new definition of 'stable' previously unimagined...

BBX_TSF
Reply #43 Monday, April 14, 2008 10:15 PM
With regards to limiting ourselves to WMP skins - this is an assumption. Ask yourself, have you seen 1-bit masks in any of the glimpses in the teasers? Have you seen anything that states WMP exclusivity?
PurrBall
Reply #44 Monday, April 14, 2008 10:15 PM
XPSP3 is coming right around the corner, how well do you think the reception will be when everyone's themes that they paid $12 for will stop working?
PurrBall
Reply #45 Monday, April 14, 2008 10:17 PM
Edit: Forums wonky today, double post.
BBX_TSF
Reply #46 Monday, April 14, 2008 10:44 PM
We could bounce back and forth with countless analogies to illustrate our respective opinions with regards to art vs. tech, but this would be pointless. The vast majority of potential end-users have never skinned their OS - they're running the stock OS interface. To this demographic customization is pure geek esoterica or something they never even considered beyond switching wallpapers - not a single one cares how it all works. But again, we're running circles based on inaccurate assumptions here. We're confident that we've got the proper partners, distribution channels and gameplan in place... guess we'll all find out soon enough. I just hope the FUD cools down to a civilized level in the meantime.
BBX_TSF
Reply #47 Monday, April 14, 2008 10:47 PM
We're up and running just fine in XPSP3. Not a single problem to speak of. Again, inaccurate assumptions.
Leo the Lion
Reply #48 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:03 AM
It will not matter what technology - patching or otherwise - is involved. The success or failure of a venture like this will be down to two things.

Will it provide the end user with the experience they desire - both in terms of stability, ease of use and artistic content - and will they be willing to pay the price being asked?

Can you encrypt your offering? If you cannot protect it then for every suite you sell there will be a thousand plus freeloaders picking it up from the numerous pirate sites around net for free. Anticipated income will fold and the rest will fall like a pack of cards. MyColors themes are appearing all over the place so this is something you have to consider seriously.

Good luck on the venture, Bill and I look forward to seeing what you have to offer   

Z71
Reply #49 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:20 AM
Skinning's 'engine' has moved on over the years. Anyone who skinned for pre '1' Windowblinds has seen the development/improvement/s that people now enjuy with the skinning of WB '6'.


Enjoy. Finally, we find out he's human.

Well, the fact that (6) people associated with Stardock has been a part of this conversation, has my interest piqued now. Actions speak volumes.

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #50 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:03 AM
I can't help but think of Babya


 

Maybe he's hired aafus?
messiah1
Reply #51 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:35 AM
Will it provide the end user with the experience they desire - both in terms of stability, ease of use and artistic content - and will they be willing to pay the price being asked?


That's what I'm waiting to see and I hope it does deliver.
Frogboy
Reply #52 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:30 AM

Hi Bill,

I certainly wish you guys luck. My skepticism isn't based on some sort of deep seated issue with The Skins Factory.  My skepticism is based on a pretty considerable level of experience with the capabilities of uxtheme patching and its repricussions.

 

Lantec
Reply #53 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:49 AM
Maybe he's hired aafus?


Teddy got a job?
vStyler
Reply #54 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:42 AM
Would take an arm and a leg to get me skinning or using anything other than WB now that i've seen its vast advantages and capabilities and i've skinned both very extensively.

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #55 Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:34 PM
Its not a skinning platform John...its a delivery method for their own original suites.They wont be accepting uploads.  (tho they might ask you to make some)
zakai1369
Reply #56 Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:23 PM
Looks good but nothing over the top spectacular. From what you can see anyways.



WWW Link
Bebi Bulma
Reply #57 Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:25 PM
Yeah saw that on dA, my response was *yawn.*
ZubaZ
Reply #58 Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:00 PM
Awesome icon work.
Leo the Lion
Reply #59 Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:56 PM
Looks pretty nice. It says the cost is free and that will interest a lot of people   
Cerebus1970
Reply #60 Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:20 PM
Will it work with windowblinds.No,ahh well save my money for more windowblinds skins

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