Hyperdesk
by The Skins Factory
Sunday, April 13, 2008 by messiah1 | Discussion: Customization Software
So with Hyperdesk just around the corner, is this finally some competition for WindowBlinds? How well will TSF and Stardock play together? I know TSF used to contribute here, but they don't show up much anymore, at least with content. I'm anxiously awaiting the release and can't wait to see DarkMatter. Hurry up Jeff. 
What are your thoughts?
*UPDATE: Hyperdesk is live. Go check it out and leave your constructive comments about it here. (Notice I didn't say "only leave your good comments or bash it". Constructive comments can be positive or negative but should be supported with facts.)
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GeekRulez
Reply #222 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:58 PM
Reply #222 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:58 PM
Wow, I'm shock at how stardock guys implicitly refuse competition.
I want to say some things,
1. System Icon Missing ? Who cares ? How many ? Most people do usual and common activities. What matters is overall impression with combination from skin, icon, widget, etc.
2. How much do you guys pay for WB, Icon Packager, and the remaining transforamtion application ? And not to mention the additional price for the additonal content. From what I've seen, Stardock application so called technology doesn't apply much in the preinstalled content. It's the additional content that matters and that means additional price. HyperDesk price is good enough with its all around content.
3. It's cool. Every skin application is cool, but at the later times people get bored. However, it will be less boring if there is combination. Combination compensates what others lack.
4. Bugs ? Error ? Old technology ? What is sure is even WB has graphic corruption (I've above decent computer 4 WB requirement). It's unstable in long term use of PC. What people want is how beautiful it's not the technology who gets boring at the later time. After all, every skin for WB has one fact, underneath it's all the same with variation this and that. XP is old too.
5.Keep your manner WB guys, I've taken a serious misinformation and disregard here. Competition is good and please be fair in assessing. Don't hide facts and just give little detail or direct what people think in the wrong direction. Good comparation gives value to customer.
6.Media player ? Winamp ? Itune ?
Most people nowadays use Media player and media player classic not Winamp. Itune in fact doesn't offer much either. I see the reason why WMP is chosen. It's simple and spacious and not too much complicating features. After all people just want to hear song from their library while catch the eye. Not many peole want to install additional softwares (u know the reason from simple to advance). The decision for WMP is appealing. Oh, winamp skin is included.
7. It's elegant, the hyperdesk and simple.
I want to say some things,
1. System Icon Missing ? Who cares ? How many ? Most people do usual and common activities. What matters is overall impression with combination from skin, icon, widget, etc.
2. How much do you guys pay for WB, Icon Packager, and the remaining transforamtion application ? And not to mention the additional price for the additonal content. From what I've seen, Stardock application so called technology doesn't apply much in the preinstalled content. It's the additional content that matters and that means additional price. HyperDesk price is good enough with its all around content.
3. It's cool. Every skin application is cool, but at the later times people get bored. However, it will be less boring if there is combination. Combination compensates what others lack.
4. Bugs ? Error ? Old technology ? What is sure is even WB has graphic corruption (I've above decent computer 4 WB requirement). It's unstable in long term use of PC. What people want is how beautiful it's not the technology who gets boring at the later time. After all, every skin for WB has one fact, underneath it's all the same with variation this and that. XP is old too.
5.Keep your manner WB guys, I've taken a serious misinformation and disregard here. Competition is good and please be fair in assessing. Don't hide facts and just give little detail or direct what people think in the wrong direction. Good comparation gives value to customer.
6.Media player ? Winamp ? Itune ?
Most people nowadays use Media player and media player classic not Winamp. Itune in fact doesn't offer much either. I see the reason why WMP is chosen. It's simple and spacious and not too much complicating features. After all people just want to hear song from their library while catch the eye. Not many peole want to install additional softwares (u know the reason from simple to advance). The decision for WMP is appealing. Oh, winamp skin is included.
7. It's elegant, the hyperdesk and simple.
Astyanax
Reply #223 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:10 PM
Just the Sony theme, the payware ones aren't flat and unskinned.
Reply #223 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:10 PM
Flat, unskinned system buttons? I'd expect more from a pay theme.
Just the Sony theme, the payware ones aren't flat and unskinned.
Bebi Bulma
Reply #224 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:17 PM
Ah, ok then.
GeekRulez, I've never had a problem with any Stardock products, and I run a lot of them and have been for 4 years now over 2 machine builds, no instabilities here. And I also exclusively use Winamp, always have, always will.
As for #2: Hyperdesk would only really be a competitor to MyColors, which is also a theme manager that applies a Windows skin, icons, wallpaper, and gadgets. They run $20 (or $10 for ODNT subscribers), and come fully skinned and work for XP AND Vista.
Reply #224 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:17 PM
Flat, unskinned system buttons? I'd expect more from a pay theme.
Just the Sony theme, the payware ones aren't flat and unskinned.
Just the Sony theme, the payware ones aren't flat and unskinned.
Ah, ok then.
GeekRulez, I've never had a problem with any Stardock products, and I run a lot of them and have been for 4 years now over 2 machine builds, no instabilities here. And I also exclusively use Winamp, always have, always will.
As for #2: Hyperdesk would only really be a competitor to MyColors, which is also a theme manager that applies a Windows skin, icons, wallpaper, and gadgets. They run $20 (or $10 for ODNT subscribers), and come fully skinned and work for XP AND Vista.
bmetelsky
Reply #225 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:36 PM
Reply #225 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:36 PM
I believe that screenshots do not always do justice when it comes to "skinnables". If you don't have a particular hyperdesk suite, or windowblind, or icon package installed on the computer in front of you, then I believe that it may be hard for you to really critique it.
GeekRulez
Reply #226 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:42 PM
Yap, 20 bucks...
How about the price of the content ? The excellent ones.
You don't have problem ? I do. To get product distributed, it's must be mostly compatible not just for some people of the world.
Wow, the payware is fully skinned ... Thanks 4 the info.
Should buy..
Reply #226 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:42 PM
Flat, unskinned system buttons? I'd expect more from a pay theme.Just the Sony theme, the payware ones aren't flat and unskinned.Ah, ok then.GeekRulez, I've never had a problem with any Stardock products, and I run a lot of them and have been for 4 years now over 2 machine builds, no instabilities here. And I also exclusively use Winamp, always have, always will.As for #2: Hyperdesk would only really be a competitor to MyColors, which is also a theme manager that applies a Windows skin, icons, wallpaper, and gadgets. They run $20 (or $10 for ODNT subscribers), and come fully skinned and work for XP AND Vista.
Yap, 20 bucks...
How about the price of the content ? The excellent ones.
You don't have problem ? I do. To get product distributed, it's must be mostly compatible not just for some people of the world.
Wow, the payware is fully skinned ... Thanks 4 the info.
Should buy..
MadDeez
Reply #227 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:48 PM
Reply #227 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:48 PM
mycolors is free. some of the suites are free. some suites cost as much as $19.95. mycolors skins xp and vista.
hyperdesk is free. some of the suites are free. some suites cost as much as $19.95. hyperdesk skins xp.
that's all i'm going to say.
hyperdesk is free. some of the suites are free. some suites cost as much as $19.95. hyperdesk skins xp.
that's all i'm going to say.
vStyler
Reply #228 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:49 PM
Most everyone I know
If we didn't care why use any icons at all. Having a mix of mostly XP and a few skinned icons is worse than using stock XP IMO.
Reply #228 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:49 PM
System Icon Missing ? Who cares ? How many ?
Most everyone I know
If we didn't care why use any icons at all. Having a mix of mostly XP and a few skinned icons is worse than using stock XP IMO.
GeekRulez
Reply #229 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00 PM
Reply #229 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00 PM
Wow
It's been resolved. Please see the post before me. The payware doesn't have the issue. The free does have. Advertising tactic.
And, oh yeah, a little missing icons don't add much weight. Most everyone u know ? How many of them compared to people of the world ? Skin community is good, but the fact is a lot of people outside know about skinning too.
System Icon Missing ? Who cares ? How many ?Most everyone I know If we didn't care why use any icons at all. Having a mix of mostly XP and a few skinned icons is worse than using stock XP IMO.
It's been resolved. Please see the post before me. The payware doesn't have the issue. The free does have. Advertising tactic.
And, oh yeah, a little missing icons don't add much weight. Most everyone u know ? How many of them compared to people of the world ? Skin community is good, but the fact is a lot of people outside know about skinning too.
vStyler
Reply #230 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:13 PM
Oh.. the Pay themes are fully skinned and have full iconsets?? Ohh.. well why didn't you say that??
Silly me... Screeny please
Reply #230 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:13 PM
The payware doesn't have the issue.
Oh.. the Pay themes are fully skinned and have full iconsets?? Ohh.. well why didn't you say that??
Silly me... Screeny please
Xan
Reply #231 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:25 PM
Oh now we're 'stardock guys'. Love hyperdesk or you're a stardock guy. and I suppose the people who criticize WindowBlinds themes are all hyperdesk guys now?
Hyperdesks problem is that it is the phantom menace of skinning. It was hyped but endlessly in screenshot teasers for months and months and when it shows up you end up with a really fancy pretty website that when you download the one free 'hypertheme' it turns out to be a pretty mediocre, buggy, theme.
Can any 'hyperdesk guys' honestly say that the free sony theme is even as good as an average visual style you can find on deviant art? It's no where near as good as one of Studio28's skins.
Like Phantom Menace, hyperdesk isn't terrible, it's just not very good and because of the hyperhype its makers gave it expectations were higher. All I can tell is that the Hyperdesk guys are very good at making pretty screenshots and fancy websites.
Reply #231 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:25 PM
Wow, I'm shock at how stardock guys implicitly refuse competition.
Oh now we're 'stardock guys'. Love hyperdesk or you're a stardock guy. and I suppose the people who criticize WindowBlinds themes are all hyperdesk guys now?
Hyperdesks problem is that it is the phantom menace of skinning. It was hyped but endlessly in screenshot teasers for months and months and when it shows up you end up with a really fancy pretty website that when you download the one free 'hypertheme' it turns out to be a pretty mediocre, buggy, theme.
Can any 'hyperdesk guys' honestly say that the free sony theme is even as good as an average visual style you can find on deviant art? It's no where near as good as one of Studio28's skins.
Like Phantom Menace, hyperdesk isn't terrible, it's just not very good and because of the hyperhype its makers gave it expectations were higher. All I can tell is that the Hyperdesk guys are very good at making pretty screenshots and fancy websites.
Xan
Reply #232 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:29 PM
What a load of crap.
I can buy Object Desktop for $50 and get thousands of skins and themes, gadgets, widgets, more for free.
Reply #232 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:29 PM
Wow, I'm shock at how stardock guys implicitly refuse competition.
I want to say some things,
1. System Icon Missing ? Who cares ? How many ? Most people do usual and common activities. What matters is overall impression with combination from skin, icon, widget, etc.
2. How much do you guys pay for WB, Icon Packager, and the remaining transforamtion application ? And not to mention the additional price for the additonal content. From what I've seen, Stardock application so called technology doesn't apply much in the preinstalled content. It's the additional content that matters and that means additional price. HyperDesk price is good enough with its all around content.
3. It's cool. Every skin application is cool, but at the later times people get bored. However, it will be less boring if there is combination. Combination compensates what others lack.
4. Bugs ? Error ? Old technology ? What is sure is even WB has graphic corruption (I've above decent computer 4 WB requirement). It's unstable in long term use of PC. What people want is how beautiful it's not the technology who gets boring at the later time. After all, every skin for WB has one fact, underneath it's all the same with variation this and that. XP is old too.
5.Keep your manner WB guys, I've taken a serious misinformation and disregard here. Competition is good and please be fair in assessing. Don't hide facts and just give little detail or direct what people think in the wrong direction. Good comparation gives value to customer.
6.Media player ? Winamp ? Itune ?
Most people nowadays use Media player and media player classic not Winamp. Itune in fact doesn't offer much either. I see the reason why WMP is chosen. It's simple and spacious and not too much complicating features. After all people just want to hear song from their library while catch the eye. Not many peole want to install additional softwares (u know the reason from simple to advance). The decision for WMP is appealing. Oh, winamp skin is included.
7. It's elegant, the hyperdesk and simple.
I want to say some things,
1. System Icon Missing ? Who cares ? How many ? Most people do usual and common activities. What matters is overall impression with combination from skin, icon, widget, etc.
2. How much do you guys pay for WB, Icon Packager, and the remaining transforamtion application ? And not to mention the additional price for the additonal content. From what I've seen, Stardock application so called technology doesn't apply much in the preinstalled content. It's the additional content that matters and that means additional price. HyperDesk price is good enough with its all around content.
3. It's cool. Every skin application is cool, but at the later times people get bored. However, it will be less boring if there is combination. Combination compensates what others lack.
4. Bugs ? Error ? Old technology ? What is sure is even WB has graphic corruption (I've above decent computer 4 WB requirement). It's unstable in long term use of PC. What people want is how beautiful it's not the technology who gets boring at the later time. After all, every skin for WB has one fact, underneath it's all the same with variation this and that. XP is old too.
5.Keep your manner WB guys, I've taken a serious misinformation and disregard here. Competition is good and please be fair in assessing. Don't hide facts and just give little detail or direct what people think in the wrong direction. Good comparation gives value to customer.
6.Media player ? Winamp ? Itune ?
Most people nowadays use Media player and media player classic not Winamp. Itune in fact doesn't offer much either. I see the reason why WMP is chosen. It's simple and spacious and not too much complicating features. After all people just want to hear song from their library while catch the eye. Not many peole want to install additional softwares (u know the reason from simple to advance). The decision for WMP is appealing. Oh, winamp skin is included.
7. It's elegant, the hyperdesk and simple.
What a load of crap.
I can buy Object Desktop for $50 and get thousands of skins and themes, gadgets, widgets, more for free.
Bebi Bulma
Reply #233 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:39 PM
Funny thing is....Kol/studio28 is the person who made the hypersuites.
Reply #233 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:39 PM
Can any 'hyperdesk guys' honestly say that the free sony theme is even as good as an average visual style you can find on deviant art? It's no where near as good as one of Studio28's skins.
Funny thing is....Kol/studio28 is the person who made the hypersuites.
Astyanax
Reply #234 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:39 PM
It's also been around A LOT longer, if HyperDesk was around for the amount of time lets say ThemeManager was then they'd have thousands to choose from as well.
Reply #234 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:39 PM
can buy Object Desktop for $50 and get thousands of skins and themes, gadgets, widgets, more for free.
It's also been around A LOT longer, if HyperDesk was around for the amount of time lets say ThemeManager was then they'd have thousands to choose from as well.
TheD2JBug
Reply #236 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:06 PM
There's like dozens of WB3 skins that look better than that. Hope that's not a pay one.
Reply #236 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:06 PM
Dark Matter: Subspace
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There's like dozens of WB3 skins that look better than that. Hope that's not a pay one.
Bebi Bulma
Reply #237 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:14 PM
Reply #237 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:14 PM
^$10. Love how the previews didn't actually show any open window contents.
WebGizmos
Reply #238 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:24 PM
Reply #238 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:24 PM
And seriously now.....who the hell doesn't "Hype" they're stuff around here? And I don't mean just WC or Stardock. Everyone always thinks/claims they have the next best thing. If anyone's stuff is that good...it will speak for itself...no hype is needed. Man....its like coming home in the morning and turning on the TV only to find nothing but infomercials anymore. Then when you finally get this next best thing...well...it ain't all it was cracked up to be. 
And if I come here one day to find Billy Maze or whatever his name is selling stuff I'm throwing this damn pc out the window! 
Man....its like coming home in the morning and turning on the TV only to find nothing but infomercials anymore. Then when you finally get this next best thing...well...it ain't all it was cracked up to be. And if I come here one day to find Billy Maze or whatever his name is selling stuff I'm throwing this damn pc out the window! 
Bebi Bulma
Reply #239 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:28 PM
Reply #239 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:28 PM
It cleans carpets, removes stains, and makes babies stop crying too! 
Wizard1956
Reply #240 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:36 PM
I agree,same with Vista without proper folders.1/4 done is worse than not done at all.
Lucky me,I have Vista-no Vista hyperdesk anytime soon.
But still with the same limitations,x1,000's,while WindowBlinds continues to innovate,improve and evolve.(Did I mention it works with Vista?)
And one other point,before I go.People are free here to voice their opinions and complaints about Stardock products.It's something I've come to respect the company for.Feedback,both good and bad is a vital part of product development,imo.Only a company that has no interest in its customers or the future of its products would want to ignore it.
Reply #240 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:36 PM
Having a mix of mostly XP and a few skinned icons is worse than using stock XP IMO.
I agree,same with Vista without proper folders.1/4 done is worse than not done at all.
Lucky me,I have Vista-no Vista hyperdesk anytime soon.
if HyperDesk was around for the amount of time lets say ThemeManager was then they'd have thousands to choose from as well.
But still with the same limitations,x1,000's,while WindowBlinds continues to innovate,improve and evolve.(Did I mention it works with Vista?)
And one other point,before I go.People are free here to voice their opinions and complaints about Stardock products.It's something I've come to respect the company for.Feedback,both good and bad is a vital part of product development,imo.Only a company that has no interest in its customers or the future of its products would want to ignore it.
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Reply #221 Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:44 PM
What I'm reading here in this post is that Hyperdesk seems to fall short in matching the capabilities of Stardock.