fully dynamic contents ?
Monday, March 17, 2008 by atlana | Discussion: Animated Wallpapers
salute peers
the concept of Animated wallpapers via video-loops isn't new. VLC (www.videolan.org) can do that for years natively, flipping the "wallpaper mode" switch in it's video-output settings, which works under any win32s OS, not just Vista
It becomes interesting if DeskScape allows REAL dynamic contents - I'm talking about full support to the D3D/directX APIs and subsequent full use of a 3D-accelerators capabilities.
I want to design/code a real-time calculated time-of-day/season-of-the-year/weather live 3D wallpaper, that draws it's information from a weather-forecast widget-API on the dashboard and the PC's time/clock. Imagine a scene like the winXP native "grassy hill" picture w. a couple trees, in which the sun/daylight and moon/night will change, according to the system-time, clouds, rain, snow, fall, spring, everything in motion calculated in real-time through the 3D-accelerators v2 or v3 vertex & pixel shader and such.
Optionally some 3D model of a simple plane or blimp can fly through the sky, pulling a banner which is essentially a clickable RSS-news feed. Or showing a Guy or Woman, reading newspaper which would show the top 1-3 news-headlines from RSS-feed or a frog on a ladder in a glass-jar showing the immediate weather forecast.
As you can see, possibilities are endless.
My question is, what is supported in that regards?
cheers
@
the concept of Animated wallpapers via video-loops isn't new. VLC (www.videolan.org) can do that for years natively, flipping the "wallpaper mode" switch in it's video-output settings, which works under any win32s OS, not just Vista
It becomes interesting if DeskScape allows REAL dynamic contents - I'm talking about full support to the D3D/directX APIs and subsequent full use of a 3D-accelerators capabilities.
I want to design/code a real-time calculated time-of-day/season-of-the-year/weather live 3D wallpaper, that draws it's information from a weather-forecast widget-API on the dashboard and the PC's time/clock. Imagine a scene like the winXP native "grassy hill" picture w. a couple trees, in which the sun/daylight and moon/night will change, according to the system-time, clouds, rain, snow, fall, spring, everything in motion calculated in real-time through the 3D-accelerators v2 or v3 vertex & pixel shader and such.
Optionally some 3D model of a simple plane or blimp can fly through the sky, pulling a banner which is essentially a clickable RSS-news feed. Or showing a Guy or Woman, reading newspaper which would show the top 1-3 news-headlines from RSS-feed or a frog on a ladder in a glass-jar showing the immediate weather forecast.
As you can see, possibilities are endless.
My question is, what is supported in that regards?
cheers
@
atlana
Reply #2 Monday, March 17, 2008 9:47 AM
Reply #2 Monday, March 17, 2008 9:47 AM
That sounds/reads like it's just switching/exchanging static pictures/video-clips (I'm at the moment under winXP-Pro, so i can't test it out) I'm talking about *real-time* 3D-rendered(!) scenery (more or less "flattened") that does smooth transitions in scenery. In principle like in todays 3D-games environmental renderings. So there is NO "random" pictures/movies flipping/exchanging.
It would be able to go even to the point to show in the far background/horizon, a remote city-skyline if you live near a bigger city, or pine-forest, or mountains, or farm fields, or desert/plains - depending on your Zip code, which can be correlated via NASA's World Wind (Google Earth^2), what's in your vicinity.
So, in short where do I go, whom do I have to murder (/joke) to get detailed API info's/instructions to be able to pull that off via DeskScape ?
cheers
@
It would be able to go even to the point to show in the far background/horizon, a remote city-skyline if you live near a bigger city, or pine-forest, or mountains, or farm fields, or desert/plains - depending on your Zip code, which can be correlated via NASA's World Wind (Google Earth^2), what's in your vicinity.
So, in short where do I go, whom do I have to murder (/joke) to get detailed API info's/instructions to be able to pull that off via DeskScape ?
cheers
@
ZubaZ
Reply #3 Monday, March 17, 2008 9:58 AM
Reply #3 Monday, March 17, 2008 9:58 AM
That's just a "quick example of what is possible" with triggers.
So we know DS handles triggers . . and we know it handles video . . and we know it can render on the fly(look at any of the other Stardock Design dynamic dreams).
I think it's just a matter of time before we see all three.
I wonder what kind of resources that would put on a vid card?
So we know DS handles triggers . . and we know it handles video . . and we know it can render on the fly(look at any of the other Stardock Design dynamic dreams).
I think it's just a matter of time before we see all three.I wonder what kind of resources that would put on a vid card?
ZubaZ
Reply #4 Monday, March 17, 2008 10:00 AM
Reply #4 Monday, March 17, 2008 10:00 AM
So, in short where do I go, whom do I have to murder (/joke) to get detailed API info's/instructions to be able to pull that off via DeskScape ?
The SDK has not been released yet. (
atlana
Reply #5 Monday, March 17, 2008 10:25 AM
Quite a bit, but it'll be scalable (turn certain features like shadows on/off or reduce number of rendering objects, use volumetric rendering for clouds or "standard" texturing and such stuff). But the average user, when "on desktop" doesn't utilize the 3D-hardware per sey, and if some full-screen app is going active, it will suspend/turn off as it's already the case w. DeskScape now.
Is there word out when it will be ?
cheers
@
Reply #5 Monday, March 17, 2008 10:25 AM
I wonder what kind of resources that would put on a vid card?
Quite a bit, but it'll be scalable (turn certain features like shadows on/off or reduce number of rendering objects, use volumetric rendering for clouds or "standard" texturing and such stuff). But the average user, when "on desktop" doesn't utilize the 3D-hardware per sey, and if some full-screen app is going active, it will suspend/turn off as it's already the case w. DeskScape now.
The SDK has not been released yet.
Is there word out when it will be ?
cheers
@
ZubaZ
Reply #6 Monday, March 17, 2008 10:30 AM
Reply #6 Monday, March 17, 2008 10:30 AM
Is there word out when it will be ?
I haven't heard a release date (or even if it's complete).
Zoomba
Reply #7 Monday, March 17, 2008 1:33 PM
Reply #7 Monday, March 17, 2008 1:33 PM
ZubaZ
Reply #8 Monday, March 17, 2008 1:37 PM
Reply #8 Monday, March 17, 2008 1:37 PM
Thanks for linking those Zoomba.
I agree with the OP though . . it'll be cool when blissful dream reads weather data from accuweather or wherever and show the wind blowing extra hard (like it is here) or rain when it's raining.
I don't doubt that SD will be doing something along those lines sooner or later . . I'm just hoping for sooner.
I agree with the OP though . . it'll be cool when blissful dream reads weather data from accuweather or wherever and show the wind blowing extra hard (like it is here) or rain when it's raining.
I don't doubt that SD will be doing something along those lines sooner or later . . I'm just hoping for sooner.
atlana
Reply #9 Monday, March 17, 2008 4:54 PM
yah, it's getting there, but not quite still - wish there would be a SDK already out for API interfacing, if all fails I've to make an executable myself and splice it through the DirectDraw as VLC did (see further up/1st post) - but that looks rather ugly, coding wise this workaround.
cheers
@
Reply #9 Monday, March 17, 2008 4:54 PM
Dynamic Dreams:
Winter Snow
Photo Dream
Liquid Dream
Desktop Collage
Desktop Earth
Also, the cube dream bundled with DeskScapes 2.0 preview is a dynamic dream, with the cube being rendered on your desktop in real-time.
Winter Snow
Photo Dream
Liquid Dream
Desktop Collage
Desktop Earth
Also, the cube dream bundled with DeskScapes 2.0 preview is a dynamic dream, with the cube being rendered on your desktop in real-time.
yah, it's getting there, but not quite still - wish there would be a SDK already out for API interfacing, if all fails I've to make an executable myself and splice it through the DirectDraw as VLC did (see further up/1st post) - but that looks rather ugly, coding wise this workaround.
cheers
@
amunchkin
Reply #10 Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:19 AM
Reply #10 Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:19 AM
What about Flash files? (swf)
Flash a LOT of capability towards making dynamic content and animations. They may not be 3D (unless you use Papervision 3D), but they could be REALLY cool!
I remember a long time ago, a company released a Flash wallpaper application and I wanted it but I didn't wanna buy it so I said the heck with it, but if this was included with DeskScapes, that would rock!
Stardock, consider this for future releases! How hard would it be? Load a SWF, scale it, there you have it!
Flash a LOT of capability towards making dynamic content and animations. They may not be 3D (unless you use Papervision 3D), but they could be REALLY cool!
I remember a long time ago, a company released a Flash wallpaper application and I wanted it but I didn't wanna buy it so I said the heck with it, but if this was included with DeskScapes, that would rock!
Stardock, consider this for future releases! How hard would it be? Load a SWF, scale it, there you have it!
AllDoneHere
Reply #11 Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:30 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:30 PM
I've not seen a dream that carries any Dynamic Content. You could create a widget like the ones used with sidebar, or set the background as Active Desktop and run ASP or PHP in the background to connect to http:// content.
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Reply #1 Monday, March 17, 2008 9:20 AM
From the description:
What you describe should be possible . . we'll just have to wait and see.