I think it was my last wall
Monday, March 10, 2008 by PhoeniXLegenda | Discussion: Wallpapers
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Reply #42 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:38 AM
I'm sure everyone hopes the same thing for you, too.
With that in mind it's therefore helpful to have critical comment, and to also accept that what may be early days is actually a starting point on the road to better things...and the ratings/comments as applied bear testament to that....
Reply #43 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:00 AM
Reply #44 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:08 AM
http://phoenixlegenda.wincustomize.com/
Click on the Gallerie link in the menu above your profile
http://phoenixlegenda.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx
as you can see you wall can be watch from there. So everyone who will visite your Personal Page could see it.
You should read the Post "Personal Page Elite" and put a link and a preview of your wall in there.
Reply #45 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:09 AM
Reply #47 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:57 AM
With half of the stuff that gets through to the main gallery..from cut and paste heroes and logos to a 'plethora' of fractals (which seems to be the 'new' Bryce in as far as the gallery's on a lot of sites being bombarded with them) I just don't get why his wall did not make the main gallery.
Artistic license. His interpretation. How do you fault the reality of stars being 'to low' on the horizon and not go after "Those are not Fairy wings. They're too insect like." or "Trolls are bigger and browner. And they have horns."
And then to suggest that the errors a person points out will have people deleting it..I don't know.
I realize we don't 'normally' discuss things like this when it comes to walls. And I won't drag it out any further after this, but there is a lot of Bryce/3D work that could just as easily be picked apart..and there is just a lot of crappy cut and pastes and things that are technically rips that get by as fan art or fair use...I stand by what I said to begin with. I think his wall deserved to make the main gallery. Nothing personal, but it seems kinda trivial to even bring up a few stars in the trees.
Perhaps it was. I was hoping it would be directed more at the cut and paste stuff of other peoples hard work without so much as a reference or credit and the logos on some slapped together background.
Reply #50 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:39 PM
Reply #51 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:39 PM
That is not the point. It had nothing to do with "whining". What happened was that it was remoderated and was decided that it was good enough to be put back in the library.
However, I will say that I think these type of things can be handled differently. It would be nice if people would email an admin versus starting the rants on the forums. It ends up being anything but constructive.
I think that PhoeniXLegenda has learned not to delete work and re-upload. Lesson learned.
I think we can compare his all to those recently moderated and see that it is acceptable. No problem.
So, case closed. Lesson learned. Wall is where it should be. New artist can submit more walls (not saying that they will all get accepted) and will *not* delete and re-upload.
Reply #52 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:24 PM
sounds like a skin condition
I think the horse is dead...............
Reply #53 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:07 PM
Reply #54 Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:00 PM
Are they going to remoderate everything that didn't make it to the main gallery...this seems like it may create a bigger problem. Now, if somebody's stuff doesn't make the cut, they can whine and complain about it needing to be remoderated. A precedent has been set.
Reply #55 Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:12 PM
Either scrap the library alltogther or have stronger moderation , period. And it's the same for all, no matter what your bloody rank is on here.
Reply #56 Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:49 PM
No, it's not so black and white.
Let me ask this- should the moderators never listen to a complaint? Are complaints never founded? What type of place is this if we never take a step back and look at what happened and change the outcome if we made a mistake?
To me, I rather be balanced. I rather say:"Yep, that can be changed" sometimes to balance out the "Nope, that stays where it is." Otherwise, all we are doing is saying that we never look at anything with a fresh perspective.
And, what does that have to do with this? If anything, you just disproved your own point. The person that this thread is about has only been here 2 months. So, how does that pertain to your statement? How did he become a "respected" after 2 months? He's a new user. New users make mistakes.
Are you saying that we play favorites? I guess I'm not getting what you are saying here.
Reply #57 Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:57 PM
The point is this was in the main library. The uploader, being new to the site, mistakenly deleted the wall and reuploded it not realizing that wasn't the right thing to do. The second upload was sent to pp. It was then realised this was a moderation error and so the wall was made public again.
There is no sinister change of policy here which the conspiracy theorists will read into the situation no matter what anyone says.
People make mistakes - thankfully. It shows they are human and not machines
Reply #58 Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:10 PM
Nowhere am I so desperately needed as among a shipload of illogical humans.
Reply #60 Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:53 PM
Yep, that's *exactly* what I am saying.
This discussion has been had in the past regarding what was or was not allowed in the wallpaper gallery. I can recall instances where I've submitted walls and were declined because they were photos and thus not 'wallpaper worthy', and then when I look in the wallpaper gallery at the time , I see walls that , lo and behold , were photos. I can only conclude from this that there were, at least at the time, differing standards for what is considered postable.
Now , this isn't really a demand or anything. Stardock and the higher ups in the community run this site , they can do what they want, including what was or is acceptable for uploading to the wallpaper gallery. I'm just posting my opinion.
Do with it what you will.
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Reply #41 Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:31 AM
I see his works its so cool but what about me it my 1 space wall and i work only 3 month with photoshop with time i know i will be better and i hope it.