Weekly Poll: Wallpaper Moderation

Stirring the pot

Monday, February 25, 2008 by Zoomba | Discussion: WinCustomize News

One of the most controversial galleries on WinCustomize is, without a doubt, our wallpaper section.  In the past 90% of all work submitted was rejected out-right.  Now, more is let through, but still the vast majority is placed on a user's personal page instead of the main gallery.  This has met with mixed reactions from wallpaper artists and users alike.  Some do not like the relaxed requirements, claiming that it has ruined the quality of the gallery.  Others contend that we're being too restrictive and driving away wallpaper artists to other sites such as DeviantArt, Interfacelift etc.

So I thought this week we'd put it to an actual vote.  Let everyone voice their opinion on how they would like wallpaper moderation to be handled. 

At the moment, moderators look at a wallpaper submission, and decide whether it's personal-page-only, or main gallery material.  The general metric we use is if something would be rated a 5/10 or higher (or 2.5 stars), it's good enough for the main gallery, 4/10 and lower goes to the personal page.  We only reject broken submissions, submissions with bad preview images, or rips.

So, is our new policy to send some items to the personal page, and others to the main gallery a good one?  Is the 5/10 threshold an acceptable limit, or should it be raised or lowered?  Vote on the poll, and share your opinion in the comments below.

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teddybearcholla
Reply #21 Monday, February 25, 2008 2:13 PM
I'am from the old school. One that was taught to do your best and not settle for second best. As for wallpapers, I'd like to see only the best get posted to the library.


Nothing wrong with that WOM...when I started here, all wallpapers were moderated for the gallery, and I would guess more than 65% were rejected, maybe more... and there was no personal page to put rejections in. I for one preferred it that way. ..just my two cents

victory99
Reply #22 Monday, February 25, 2008 2:17 PM
One that was taught to do your best and not settle for second best. As for wallpapers, I'd like to see only the best get posted to the library. There are plenty of other sites with out standards to upload second best walls. One mod doesn't play God and decide what wall is good enough to make the library, its a consenses of mods that makes that decision. So if I was a maker of wallpapers, I'd try and keep trying to get an upload approved because then I'd know I was one of the best and not one that can get anything uploaded. Thats just my opinion and we know about those.
I completely agree with WOM.

PoSmedley
Reply #23 Monday, February 25, 2008 2:24 PM
And bring an end to the Personal Page Elite ?!?!?!?! I like the way it is. Sending more to the personal gallery (and I am aware this will happen to some of my work) would be better than rejecting them.

messiah1
Reply #24 Monday, February 25, 2008 2:36 PM
I think the old way of only letting in the best here at WC should be brought back. We don't want to become DA...I can't stand having to wade through all the garbage walls at DA to find that one good wall.

Mordalo
Reply #25 Monday, February 25, 2008 2:47 PM
This isn't DA, and as so many others have said, the last thing I'd want is for this place to become another DA. (No worries, I've no intention of starting another DA rant...my feelings are well know, and if you don't, ask me elsewhere.) I rarely submit wallpapers, but when I did, I was surprised to not see it in the main page, but did find it in my personal gallery. Took a little looking, but I found out why...and I was fine with it. I'll support going back to the old way of doing things. Wincustomize always has had a higher standard, and it should be so. The cream will always rise to the top, as it were.

PoSmedley
Reply #26 Monday, February 25, 2008 3:07 PM
Save The Personal Page Elite!!!!!!!!

Skinhit
Reply #27 Monday, February 25, 2008 3:45 PM
At least with this current method it allows people to still view work that didnt quite make it. I believe the old way only discourages and frustrates. I for one am a proud member of the P.P.E.

WOM
Reply #28 Monday, February 25, 2008 4:10 PM
Maybe I need to clearify some.  I think only the best should get approved and most of the rest goes on the PP.  Rips, porn broken and just utter trash gets disaproved.  

PoSmedley
Reply #29 Monday, February 25, 2008 4:14 PM
Thanks, skinhit!
Alright, WOM!
>>> Save The Personal Page Elite!!!!!!!!<<<

Xiandi
Reply #30 Monday, February 25, 2008 4:29 PM
I too am a member... Leave things as they stand. If it ain't broke..don't fix it.

Bandit4edu
Reply #31 Monday, February 25, 2008 4:29 PM
leave well enough alone...either way you're gonna have complaints...and with things as they are...I can wave my winky in the forums

The__Goo
Reply #32 Monday, February 25, 2008 8:17 PM
Well I think the current system doesn't work, and nor did the old way. We have a way to sort the wallpapers by a catagory of numbers downloaded, featured, even sort by rated. Get the users to use the rating system. If we rely on a select few to decide what i like then why have the rating system. What you may think is good I might think is a sorry piece of shoot. But a wallpaper I might find to go along perfect with my desktop theme for my perfect screenshot in the pile of dirt so to speak. If it was rejected i would never know. My vote is on the rating system. We all talk about "if ain't broke why fix it?" what about if "we have why not use it". I think we should not reject anything unless it maitains a score of 1 for specified length of time. I think we should promote usage of the rating system. Award users for being an objective judge to the material of the site. We are a community, so let the community decide what is good and what isn't.

PurrBall
Reply #33 Monday, February 25, 2008 9:47 PM
Reject all but the best. I've had to retreat from WC's Wallpaper gallery because there is just too much junk in there, no offense to some artists
A diamond is harder to find when it's in a pile of dirt.
^^ Great way to put it.

Noiram
Reply #34 Monday, February 25, 2008 9:49 PM
I'm waving my winky and am fine with the way things are, but there is another effective way to wade through the garbage. If you are a wincustomise subscriber, you have the option to view the galleries with only the star rating you choose or above. I'm not sure if thats true for regular members or not. The only problem with that is it works across the board for all galleries (not just wallpapers) I have mine set to see them all because I don't want to miss anything in the other galleries, plus I know our moderators are doing a fine job.  


Bebi Bulma
Reply #35 Monday, February 25, 2008 9:56 PM
Reject all but the best. I've had to retreat from WC's Wallpaper gallery because there is just too much junk in there, no offense to some artists

A diamond is harder to find when it's in a pile of dirt.

^^ Great way to put it.

Same, I don't even browse the wallpaper gallery at all. I get all my wallpapers from release threads on Aqua-Soft (which are of course on dA).

Skinhit
Reply #36 Monday, February 25, 2008 10:09 PM
Reject all but the best. I've had to retreat from WC's Wallpaper gallery because there is just too much junk in there, no offense to some artists


Just sounds elitist to me...Do we reject all but the best of any other library? Granted the wallpaper gallery sees the most action, but henceforth the current moderation policy. Thanks WC

Skinhit
Reply #37 Monday, February 25, 2008 10:14 PM
As a compromise I wouldn't let anything under 6/10 or 3 stars in...

eieio
Reply #38 Monday, February 25, 2008 10:51 PM
Damned if you ... damned if you don't   

Just my opinion but the ratings, and decision of where to place the walls; if not rejected, is up to the personal tastes of the moderators ... not saying that's a bad thing ... it's the way things work.

Now those particular tastes may or may not coincide with that of the majority of WC users ... one man's treasure is another's trash and all that ...

Perhaps the current system of publishing only the best to the public galleries with the rest going to personal pages is fine, although upping the bar to get into the public gallery could have a two-fold benefit ... the public galleries get 'better' and more focus is/can be placed on personal pages as places to mine for those 'unique' offerings.

The__Goo
Reply #39 Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:44 AM
why not let the people who use the site be the judge? why not let all the wallpapers submitted get displayed for a short time in the gallery and then depending on the ratings it gets decides if it remains or get put on to the submitters private page. that way everyone has a chance to see it and the submitter will get some feedback from the community? we claim to be a community, in fact we all had a discussion about this ealier this week. let the community decide what should or should not be???? i'm sure the moderators are doing a fine job but put the power in the hands of the people.

Jeffrey Bombard
Reply #40 Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:22 AM
I think the system is fine as is... well if changing the standards is the only option then it is fine. However, I don't think the standards are the issue. Yes you should continue to reject rips, broken files etc... but... However I think the better option is to just put everything in the gallery, and add another browse option. If I understand it correctly if you add another browse option to filter out everything below 5 it would be the same as it is now. I personally don't browse wallpapers here very often, because there are not enough options for me to find what I'm looking for. If you want people to use the gallery you should give them the ability to browse by at least 2 conditions. I like how Deviantart lets me browse popular and recent at the same time. Just browsing popular shows me mostly the same stuff everytime, just browsing recent shows me too much stuff to find something.

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