i WANT this resolved.......
Friday, November 16, 2007 by Vampothika | Discussion: Community
when does a community skin become a community skin when the community is not involved? Where was the post to inivite skinners for harmoney and whitefire2?
there wasnt a post, it was created by maxstyles crew (and maybe a secret select few from the community)
and yet, suddenly its a community skin?
to me, a community skin is when someone posts they want to make a community skin, and people are allowed to volunteer their services to the skin. The WHOLE community knows about it....(unless they live under a rock) its not a secret and suddenly released as community skin.
yet again i ask, why is maxstyles skins being promoted as community skins when its clear that they are not.
This isnt a flame against Maxstyles.....I just am totally confused.........
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messiah1
Reply #102 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:05 PM
Let me tell you something chum, juniors like you don't and can't get "my ass hurt". I've dealt with boys like yourself who thought they were all hot sh!t. I never had a punk I couldn't put in his place. You'd do well with some life experience and a stint in the Armed Forces, don't go Marines though, they'd eat you for breakfast. I'd like to see you try to create a stink with some of those fellas.
Reply #102 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:05 PM
your getting ass hurt on a subject not even worthy of fighting over! go cry about this topic why dont you!
i am getting harassed by journey men and masters!
i am getting harassed by journey men and masters!
Let me tell you something chum, juniors like you don't and can't get "my ass hurt". I've dealt with boys like yourself who thought they were all hot sh!t. I never had a punk I couldn't put in his place. You'd do well with some life experience and a stint in the Armed Forces, don't go Marines though, they'd eat you for breakfast. I'd like to see you try to create a stink with some of those fellas.
sublime187
Reply #104 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:07 PM
Reply #104 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:07 PM
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sublime187
Reply #105 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:08 PM
Reply #105 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:08 PM
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sublime187
Reply #107 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:09 PM
Reply #107 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:09 PM
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HG_Eliminator
Reply #108 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:09 PM
Reply #108 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:09 PM
From the beginning there have been variations of skins/suite types.
1.Private skins. where only one artist or Team like TSF etc make the skin/suite
2. Closed community skins. where a selected group or teams get together and build a skin, while not advertising it to the public til it's release.
3. Open community skins. Where it is advertised to the general public and all who offer up can take part...
4.the envelopment of Master skins in to the "Community skins" has been a new twist on the two "community skin" types. as now there are "Master community skins" (open and closed).
I for one, welcome it. Any thing to bolster the progression of skinners and their crafts, cant be a bad thing
Kitty I can see your confusion .. but it has been this way for a long time...
The only inclusion in to Zoombas post could have been the Master Tag, as it is a "Master" community suite. this would have offered up that some elements of the Suite, if not all.. were of the "Master skin" purchase status...
1.Private skins. where only one artist or Team like TSF etc make the skin/suite
2. Closed community skins. where a selected group or teams get together and build a skin, while not advertising it to the public til it's release.
3. Open community skins. Where it is advertised to the general public and all who offer up can take part...
4.the envelopment of Master skins in to the "Community skins" has been a new twist on the two "community skin" types. as now there are "Master community skins" (open and closed).
I for one, welcome it. Any thing to bolster the progression of skinners and their crafts, cant be a bad thing
Kitty I can see your confusion .. but it has been this way for a long time...
The only inclusion in to Zoombas post could have been the Master Tag, as it is a "Master" community suite. this would have offered up that some elements of the Suite, if not all.. were of the "Master skin" purchase status...
sublime187
Reply #111 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:11 PM
Reply #111 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:11 PM
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messiah1
Reply #112 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:12 PM
Reply #112 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:12 PM
I guess community can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. To me, if folks in the community contribute to a skin, that's a community skin.
Philly0381
Reply #113 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:15 PM
Reply #113 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:15 PM
Amen Night Train. This whole thread along with a couple others right now is nothing more then lets see who I can piss off and make mad. Issues, this hasn't been about issues at all. 
vStyler
Reply #114 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:19 PM
Reply #114 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:19 PM
I ain't buyin it kitty. I had no problems with you at ALL until today... unfortunately for you.. knowing you..Its obvious to me what the thread was about.. and not only me. I won't broadcast it but imo it wasn't about the definition of community. No one goes to these lengths over a definition...period. Especially one that as hairsplitting as this.. but lets say it was about that..really petty.
I know it wasn't and as far as I'm concerned its what I believe that matters.. to me. You burned this bridge and probably a couple more.. I know you'll probably say you don't care or oh well.. thats all well and good.. as long as you understand.. you did.
This is my last comment in this poor excuse of a post.
g'nite..mate.
I know it wasn't and as far as I'm concerned its what I believe that matters.. to me. You burned this bridge and probably a couple more.. I know you'll probably say you don't care or oh well.. thats all well and good.. as long as you understand.. you did.
This is my last comment in this poor excuse of a post.
g'nite..mate.
killajosh
Reply #115 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:25 PM
Reply #115 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:25 PM
look, I really have NO input on this subject at all. I'm not a skinner, but I am a customer. If anyone actually took the time to look up the word "community" in the dictionary, this is what they would find....
com·mu·ni·ty
noun
Definition:
1. people in area: a group of people who live in the same area, or the area in which they live
ex. a close-knit fishing community
2. people with common background: a group of people with a common background or with shared interests within society
ex. the financial community
3. nations with common history: a group of nations with a common history or common economic or political interests
ex. the international community
4. society: the public or society in general
ex. a useful member of the community
Even though the general public may not have been asked to submit skins, objects, etc. for Harmony, it was still a community project. It wasn't just MaxStyles (although MaxStyles is a community by definiton). Outsiders were included.
I'm not taking sides. Honestly, I could care less. But some kind a clarification needed to be made. A "community effort" doesn't HAVE to include everyone from the skinning community.....
com·mu·ni·ty
noun
Definition:
1. people in area: a group of people who live in the same area, or the area in which they live
ex. a close-knit fishing community
2. people with common background: a group of people with a common background or with shared interests within society
ex. the financial community
3. nations with common history: a group of nations with a common history or common economic or political interests
ex. the international community
4. society: the public or society in general
ex. a useful member of the community
Even though the general public may not have been asked to submit skins, objects, etc. for Harmony, it was still a community project. It wasn't just MaxStyles (although MaxStyles is a community by definiton). Outsiders were included.
I'm not taking sides. Honestly, I could care less. But some kind a clarification needed to be made. A "community effort" doesn't HAVE to include everyone from the skinning community.....
Vampothika
Reply #116 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:29 PM
Reply #116 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:29 PM
I also had no problem with you until today also, but you have taken my comments the wrong way.
ZubaZ
Reply #117 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:36 PM
Reply #117 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:36 PM
ENOUGH. 
Moderators don't like locking threads. we'd rather stay out of the way. But enough is enough.
There are consequences to behavior and I'm getting ready to lay some down.
Take you private issues to a private forum. We don't need to see them here.
Take you juvenile threats and language somewhere else. They are not needed or wanted here.
I STRONGLY suggest that the vocal posters in this thread step away from WC for a while.
None of you are promoting the "community" you are arguing about.
Moderators don't like locking threads. we'd rather stay out of the way. But enough is enough.
There are consequences to behavior and I'm getting ready to lay some down.
Take you private issues to a private forum. We don't need to see them here.
Take you juvenile threats and language somewhere else. They are not needed or wanted here.
I STRONGLY suggest that the vocal posters in this thread step away from WC for a while.
None of you are promoting the "community" you are arguing about.
sublime187
Reply #118 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:36 PM
Reply #118 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:36 PM
ok i just want a little bit of say as well, im sorry came across as harsh or corrosive, i just think that maybe the higher ups of this site should reword some stuff and call it for the actuall stuff involved in any case and what i mean is,its ok if you want to call it a "community" skin but at least spill your spill about what your preferences on how to go about the builing and recruiting for the "community skins or widgets or whatever, take your pic!
RadialFX
Reply #120 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:38 PM
Reply #120 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:38 PM
Is all of this in response to the topic on this thread, or did the question that's being talked about originate in another thread? Maybe I'm missing something here. RAD
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Reply #101 Friday, November 16, 2007 10:05 PM