Widgets running but not showing....
Thursday, October 11, 2007 by Richard Mohler | Discussion: DesktopX
Does anybody have a clue why a widget is running but it doesn't show? Do you think maybe it has something to do with Vista? Let me know..I unloaded widowblinds 6 and stopped the windowblinds service and now they seem to show now.. I guess I don't need windowblinds anyway.. Although it was a nice change.. 
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starkers
Reply #2 Friday, October 12, 2007 12:03 AM
Reply #2 Friday, October 12, 2007 12:03 AM
I don't think this is purely Vista related...I'm currently running XP and your 'corner' widget was showing as running in widget manager, but not showing on the screen. What I did was close it in widget manager and reapply it, from there I made sure 'run at startup' was unchecked and now it only shows when I re-open it.
Hope this is of help.
Hope this is of help.
Richard Mohler
Reply #3 Friday, October 12, 2007 12:22 AM
Reply #3 Friday, October 12, 2007 12:22 AM
As soon as I unloaded windowblinds 6 and stopped service everything straightened out. Don't know if it was just one of the beta updates or not but everythings fine now.. Maybe they should look into this...
milksama
Reply #5 Friday, October 12, 2007 10:46 AM
Reply #5 Friday, October 12, 2007 10:46 AM
Richard: Were there any widgets in particular you were running that were giving you a problem?
Could you also post your WB Sys Info here?
-Mike
[Stardock Support]
Richard Mohler
Reply #6 Friday, October 12, 2007 12:55 PM
Reply #6 Friday, October 12, 2007 12:55 PM
Just the new ones I just made. The system ones..And a solitaire shortcut widget I made..As for sys info Do I have to run it again to get that? Right now it's unloaded and the service is stopped. Let me know..
Richard Mohler
Reply #7 Friday, October 12, 2007 1:19 PM
Reply #7 Friday, October 12, 2007 1:19 PM
This is without beta updates..
Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 4.3
Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 4.4
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6.0 (build 49 x86 - Vista Edition)
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
(Dell 2405FPW (Digital)) 1 is attached to NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Wblind.dll 2007/10/01 11:46:20
Wbsrv.dll 2007/09/24 15:57:26
Wbconfig.exe 2007/10/01 17:35:33
Wbload.exe 2007/09/27 16:42:44
Wbhelp.dll 2007/07/11 15:06:07
Tray.dll 2007/09/12 18:52:21
Wbload.dll 2007/09/12 18:58:28
Screen.exe 2007/09/30 15:18:24
Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 4.3
Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 4.4
WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 6.0 (build 49 x86 - Vista Edition)
WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
(Dell 2405FPW (Digital)) 1 is attached to NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Wblind.dll 2007/10/01 11:46:20
Wbsrv.dll 2007/09/24 15:57:26
Wbconfig.exe 2007/10/01 17:35:33
Wbload.exe 2007/09/27 16:42:44
Wbhelp.dll 2007/07/11 15:06:07
Tray.dll 2007/09/12 18:52:21
Wbload.dll 2007/09/12 18:58:28
Screen.exe 2007/09/30 15:18:24
Richard Mohler
Reply #8 Friday, October 12, 2007 1:27 PM
Reply #8 Friday, October 12, 2007 1:27 PM
I reinstalled windowblinds without getting beta updates and two of my widgets are running but not showing. The calendar one (System) and solitaire shortcut widget..I'm gonna go ahead and remove it again..
ZubaZ
Reply #9 Friday, October 12, 2007 1:33 PM
Reply #9 Friday, October 12, 2007 1:33 PM
Just because I want to remove it from the discussion . . . are the coordinates for the widgets in Builder mode on screen?
shortcut_
Reply #10 Friday, October 12, 2007 2:37 PM
Reply #10 Friday, October 12, 2007 2:37 PM
I am having a similar problem...but with an interesting change. Weather widgets are the main culprit for me and I'm ready to unload Desktop X altogether this has frustrated me so much!
I was running Hyalo weather widget when I noticed that it was no longer showing one day, but registered as running. I went into create desktop and went into the list to see if the coordinates were off (out of my resolution range) and do you think I could determine what the heck to move (which coordinates to change)??? I tried a couple other weather widgets and in compact mode they all showed until I went to 'detailed' or expanded view then voila!, they disappeared too!! A new trouble has also arisen, the weather widgets keep having a error pop up that my location (which was fine before) isn't a valid zip code and whatever I put in doesn't work, it just says the same thing over and over - and all this while I can't even see the widget to begin with!! I have tried clearing out the widget and object cache, rebooting, all to no avail.
My ineptness to correct this has been very frustrating to say the least. Like all good things once I've had weather forecasts on my desktop it is hard losing them, but frankly isn't worth the trouble if they keep going 'phantom' on me... any help/suggestions would be appreciated!
I was running Hyalo weather widget when I noticed that it was no longer showing one day, but registered as running. I went into create desktop and went into the list to see if the coordinates were off (out of my resolution range) and do you think I could determine what the heck to move (which coordinates to change)??? I tried a couple other weather widgets and in compact mode they all showed until I went to 'detailed' or expanded view then voila!, they disappeared too!! A new trouble has also arisen, the weather widgets keep having a error pop up that my location (which was fine before) isn't a valid zip code and whatever I put in doesn't work, it just says the same thing over and over - and all this while I can't even see the widget to begin with!! I have tried clearing out the widget and object cache, rebooting, all to no avail.
My ineptness to correct this has been very frustrating to say the least. Like all good things once I've had weather forecasts on my desktop it is hard losing them, but frankly isn't worth the trouble if they keep going 'phantom' on me... any help/suggestions would be appreciated!
shortcut_
Reply #11 Friday, October 12, 2007 2:42 PM
Reply #11 Friday, October 12, 2007 2:42 PM
Oh, I forgot something that may have consequence - Hyalo weather widget was running but I couldn't see it on the screen...when I went into the 'create' mode to get a list to see the coordinates Hyalo appeared on my screen, and would only stay visible while Desktop Create was running. As soon as it shut done the widget disappeared...
I could run the widget without the Create Desktop running, but it was not visible, just running somewhere in the background, then when I started the Creat Desktop it showed 2 Hyalos running (and the one associated with the create desktop appeared again). Weird.
I could run the widget without the Create Desktop running, but it was not visible, just running somewhere in the background, then when I started the Creat Desktop it showed 2 Hyalos running (and the one associated with the create desktop appeared again). Weird.
Richard Mohler
Reply #12 Friday, October 12, 2007 2:53 PM
Reply #12 Friday, October 12, 2007 2:53 PM
Don't know about coordinates thing, I'll check it out..
milksama
Reply #13 Friday, October 12, 2007 3:08 PM
Reply #13 Friday, October 12, 2007 3:08 PM
Thanks for providing the information.
The reasons I can imagine why objects/widgets/gadgets wouldn't be showing up are
- Coordinates off-screen (as Zubaz mentioned)
- Opacity set to a less-than-visible amount
- Visible attribute set to False
As the problem you've mentioned does seem to be affected whether WB is loaded, that sounds like a clear concern of some kind of incompatibility.
I have run DesktopX items here without a problem myself, however, and I'm using WB 6 on all of my machines.
One other thing to try -- hold down the CTRL key while launching a widget. Does that have any effect?
shortcut_: This sounds like it may be something associated with that particular widget. When you go into builder mode and bring up the object navigator (right click the system tray icon and choose List Objects), the values you will want to make sure are within your screen's resolution are under the X and Y columns. Just click on the number there and you can edit it. Press Enter when you're done.
-Mike
[Stardock Support]
Richard Mohler
Reply #14 Friday, October 12, 2007 3:26 PM
Reply #14 Friday, October 12, 2007 3:26 PM
In DX builder mode they seem to load alright, then I switched to DX client and restarted and they showed for a minute. Some kind of weird flash occured and the calendar diappeared. At least the solitaire one stayed..Being widgets they don't show in Dx builder mode in object navigator.Do your widgets show in object navigator? As long as I've had DX widgets never showed any kind of information in object navigator..
milksama
Reply #15 Friday, October 12, 2007 3:32 PM
Reply #15 Friday, October 12, 2007 3:32 PM
True... when running them explicitly as widgets (by simply clicking on them) they wouldn't show. If you were to right click the system tray icon and choose the 'Import' option and instead load them this way, they would show up in the Object Navigator. This obviously can only provide information on objects. Sorry for not being clearer before!
-Mike
[Stardock Support]
shortcut_
Reply #17 Friday, October 12, 2007 6:15 PM
Reply #17 Friday, October 12, 2007 6:15 PM
Thanks Mike, but I don't know which to change...there are like a kazillion different objects.
As well, (and I'm not sure what happened here) but whenever I doubleclick on ANY weather widget now either out of Desktop creator or just by going to the widget folder it always gives the 'zip error..' window which reads 'This doesn't appear to be a valid postal code Please try again' and no matter what I type it just comes back with the same error - it won't accept anything (I've used places that worked before just fine). This is all very strange - while posting this the error just keeps popping up like it's on a timer ( I left the widget running).
Is there a way to COMPLETELY clear out the widget's cache and begin again?
As well, (and I'm not sure what happened here) but whenever I doubleclick on ANY weather widget now either out of Desktop creator or just by going to the widget folder it always gives the 'zip error..' window which reads 'This doesn't appear to be a valid postal code Please try again' and no matter what I type it just comes back with the same error - it won't accept anything (I've used places that worked before just fine). This is all very strange - while posting this the error just keeps popping up like it's on a timer ( I left the widget running).
Is there a way to COMPLETELY clear out the widget's cache and begin again?
Richard Mohler
Reply #18 Friday, October 12, 2007 6:50 PM
Reply #18 Friday, October 12, 2007 6:50 PM
Did you unload widget first before clearing widget cache? Which weather widget are we talking about?
shortcut_
Reply #19 Friday, October 12, 2007 7:37 PM
Reply #19 Friday, October 12, 2007 7:37 PM
Hyalo 2xWeather by adni18. It's an awesome widget. Yeah, I unloaded the widget before clearing the cache.
I'm not sure what happened to start all this...I haven't recently installed anything or changed resolutions. I did go from 2 monitors to just one but the widget was working fine for about a week before it disappeared and all these problems started. I really appreciate the help and comments, and feel like a noob b/c I haven't been able to solve what I did or what has happened.
I'm not sure what happened to start all this...I haven't recently installed anything or changed resolutions. I did go from 2 monitors to just one but the widget was working fine for about a week before it disappeared and all these problems started. I really appreciate the help and comments, and feel like a noob b/c I haven't been able to solve what I did or what has happened.
Richard Mohler
Reply #20 Friday, October 12, 2007 7:56 PM
Reply #20 Friday, October 12, 2007 7:56 PM
It's the same script as my Clearness widget.If you feel confident in working in registry we can try that if not I don't know anything else to try..Let me know..
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Reply #1 Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:09 PM
ummmmmmm...........bump