Good Bye Forums
It hasn't been fun
Friday, May 18, 2007 by Z71 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
About every 6 months, I try to come to the forums and be a part of the community. Been doing it for about the last 5 years.
But the same thing happens every time. I make a comment and someone will critique, add to, take it the wrong way or just state the obvious about something I've said.
I've even tried to help people and there will always be other people that will come in and just totally rip what advice I give. Some people think it's fun to give little jabs. I'm not the only one this happens to, I'm just the one going away. It's not worth it anymore. I haven't given up just don't need the BS anymore.
This isn't a pitty party. I'm just letting everyone know that I won't be around the forums. If anyone would like help or advice, they can contact me.
If I have an announcement I'll post but that will be about it.
I know this will hurt my chances of moving up in the ranks here at Wincustomize, but it's the price I'll have to pay. No one else.
I guess I'm not a people person cause the forums are just not for me.
Now, please, have fun picking this apart....
But the same thing happens every time. I make a comment and someone will critique, add to, take it the wrong way or just state the obvious about something I've said.
I've even tried to help people and there will always be other people that will come in and just totally rip what advice I give. Some people think it's fun to give little jabs. I'm not the only one this happens to, I'm just the one going away. It's not worth it anymore. I haven't given up just don't need the BS anymore.
This isn't a pitty party. I'm just letting everyone know that I won't be around the forums. If anyone would like help or advice, they can contact me.
If I have an announcement I'll post but that will be about it.
I know this will hurt my chances of moving up in the ranks here at Wincustomize, but it's the price I'll have to pay. No one else.
I guess I'm not a people person cause the forums are just not for me.
Now, please, have fun picking this apart....
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xDaYSx
Reply #22 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:33 AM
Reply #22 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:33 AM
I know what you mean Z71, just about everyone here hates me 
Buttermaker
Reply #24 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:48 AM
Reply #24 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:48 AM
That's the problem with people, they can't take criticism. They get offended if you speak your mind and then they call you names. Americans are probably the worst for not being able to take any criticism. It's too bad that people like that have chased you off of these forums. Best of luck to you.
Fairyy~
Reply #25 Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Thats not true at all...if its given in the spirit of helping someone then it serves a purpose...
Saying this looks like shit isnt helping anyone.
Z71...for whats its worth..your blinds were once the only ones Id use. Yours and Brewmans. To me , I am not into the bells and whistles. If I can't actually use the blind then its not my cup of tea. Im hoping you will find time to update some of my old favourites.
Good story to start my day, after your day - mine can't be any worse..
Now thats just plain silly, no one 'hates' you...but,tossing that comment on this thread is just not the way to go either...
Reply #25 Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:00 AM
That's the problem with people, they can't take criticism. They get offended if you speak your mind and then they call you names. Americans are probably the worst for not being able to take any criticism. It's too bad that people like that have chased you off of these forums. Best of luck to you.
Thats not true at all...if its given in the spirit of helping someone then it serves a purpose...
Saying this looks like shit isnt helping anyone.
Z71...for whats its worth..your blinds were once the only ones Id use. Yours and Brewmans. To me , I am not into the bells and whistles. If I can't actually use the blind then its not my cup of tea. Im hoping you will find time to update some of my old favourites.
You ever have one of those days? This is a true story. I can prove every bit of it.
Good story to start my day, after your day - mine can't be any worse..
x_days_X: I know what you mean Z71, just about everyone here hates me
Now thats just plain silly, no one 'hates' you...but,tossing that comment on this thread is just not the way to go either...
sleepydawg
Reply #26 Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:57 AM
Hate is a powerful word. I was thinking more along the lines of " disliking your comments."
I would really doubt that anyone "hates" Z71. To me he is a great artist of skins that has given to this community a great deal of time and effort and that demands some respect. If he wishes to reframe from the forums then so be it.
Heres hoping that your days get better Z71. Good luck to you.
Reply #26 Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:57 AM
I know what you mean Z71, just about everyone here hates me
Hate is a powerful word. I was thinking more along the lines of " disliking your comments."
I would really doubt that anyone "hates" Z71. To me he is a great artist of skins that has given to this community a great deal of time and effort and that demands some respect. If he wishes to reframe from the forums then so be it.
Heres hoping that your days get better Z71. Good luck to you.
AtlanticCanadianScot
Reply #27 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:16 PM
lol...yep...the forums can be toxic well summed up Paul as per usual
Reply #27 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:16 PM
It isn't the easiest thing in the world to magically convince people NOT to be arseholes ALL the time...ignore the serial twits and just 'get along' with those who matter [to them]
a serious challenge to 'ignore' unneccessary negativity + pettinesslol...yep...the forums can be toxic well summed up Paul as per usual
ArileenDesign
Reply #28 Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:16 PM
Tycus i know people here play a little with words. Don't care in general is for joke no more, in particular for those who are there everyday. For my particular post in your tread first are serious and try to say the same things happened to me and the last i apologies it's a joke (But i anyone have the numbers of next loto give me ok i need 
)
x_days_X we don't hate you
*Quentin like everyone as part his wife
Reply #28 Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:16 PM
btw..., i know and i could call some names in here of those people who make that kind of useless comments, but i wont..., it's not fair at all what u are doing...
Tycus i know people here play a little with words. Don't care in general is for joke no more, in particular for those who are there everyday. For my particular post in your tread first are serious and try to say the same things happened to me and the last i apologies it's a joke
(But i anyone have the numbers of next loto give me ok i need 
)I know what you mean Z71, just about everyone here hates me
x_days_X we don't hate you
*Quentin like everyone as part his wife
WebGizmos
Reply #29 Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:51 PM
Reply #29 Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:51 PM
Life is to short to take to let things like this stop you from participating in the forums. If you do the only one that misses out or loses is you. I've seen these post a lot over the years here and nothing changes. I'm not saying you don't have a point since I've seen what your talking about more than often. But leaving doesn't stop people from doing it. Personally...I just ignore it.
The unfortunate thing is that text can easily be taken the wrong way...and once that happens it just goes downhill from there and the rest is history. The other is that some people have no sense of humor and rather than laugh along they claim people are making fun of them.
When entering the internet make sure you have thick skin...a sense of humor...some patience...or the ability to ignore things that are clearly off the wall.
The unfortunate thing is that text can easily be taken the wrong way...and once that happens it just goes downhill from there and the rest is history. The other is that some people have no sense of humor and rather than laugh along they claim people are making fun of them.
When entering the internet make sure you have thick skin...a sense of humor...some patience...or the ability to ignore things that are clearly off the wall.
vStyler
Reply #30 Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:01 PM
Best post i've read in a while.
Reply #30 Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:01 PM
Life is to short to take to let things like this stop you from participating in the forums. If you do the only one that misses out or loses is you. I've seen these post a lot over the years here and nothing changes. I'm not saying you don't have a point since I've seen what your talking about more than often. But leaving doesn't stop people from doing it. Personally...I just ignore it.
The unfortunate thing is that text can easily be taken the wrong way...and once that happens it just goes downhill from there and the rest is history. The other is that some people have no sense of humor and rather than laugh along they claim people are making fun of them.
When entering the internet make sure you have thick skin...a sense of humor...some patience...or the ability to ignore things that are clearly off the wall.
The unfortunate thing is that text can easily be taken the wrong way...and once that happens it just goes downhill from there and the rest is history. The other is that some people have no sense of humor and rather than laugh along they claim people are making fun of them.
When entering the internet make sure you have thick skin...a sense of humor...some patience...or the ability to ignore things that are clearly off the wall.
Best post i've read in a while.
I hope you don't leave
scorpNZ
Reply #32 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:07 PM
Reply #32 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:07 PM
You know i've found the older i get the less i give a toss if someone takes a post the wrong way (it's not my fault they can't read my mind) or even a remark in person etc,my advice give it time it's not worth giving it any notice ,i just had an idea i need to go make some printed t-shirts "lIFES TOO SHORT TO GIVE A SHIT" .
Z71
Reply #33 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:27 PM
Reply #33 Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:27 PM
mrs starkers, I'm not completely going away. I'll still be around. I just need a little breather.
I'm not like most or the community, I don't leave 1000 comments a day.
I usually leave a comment or two a week, if that. Sometimes less.
Maybe it's my fault. I don't leave enough comments for people to get a feel of what I'm like and who I am. I only post if I feel I have something to contribute. I never post just to pass the time.
As someone said, in another thread, I'm acting like a little kid and I should just go home. Nothing personal, right?
So, in a way, that's what I'm going to do.
The main reason for this thread, was to inform people, that if they want or need any help from me, they can contact me. There have been many times over the years, people email me and are disappointed that I didn't answer thier post, with some helpful advice (I just didn't see it). See, that's how I am. This community has given so much to me, that I "want" to give back and be of some help.
I don't do it by calling people names, back biting, or just being plain rude, no matter who you are. I wasn't raised that way. Oh, there have been times, where I "do" stand up and fight. But that's been very sparse.
I do have to say that even if this wasn't my thread, I like how everyone has interacted with each other. It's been really nice. Now this is a community I can be proud of.
Oh, and my leg is healing nicely. Thanks for asking, seldomseen.
EDIT:
This was meant to be after mrs starkers comment. I guess I spoke just a tad to soon.
I'm not like most or the community, I don't leave 1000 comments a day.
I usually leave a comment or two a week, if that. Sometimes less.Maybe it's my fault. I don't leave enough comments for people to get a feel of what I'm like and who I am. I only post if I feel I have something to contribute. I never post just to pass the time.
As someone said, in another thread, I'm acting like a little kid and I should just go home. Nothing personal, right?
So, in a way, that's what I'm going to do.
The main reason for this thread, was to inform people, that if they want or need any help from me, they can contact me. There have been many times over the years, people email me and are disappointed that I didn't answer thier post, with some helpful advice (I just didn't see it). See, that's how I am. This community has given so much to me, that I "want" to give back and be of some help.
I don't do it by calling people names, back biting, or just being plain rude, no matter who you are. I wasn't raised that way. Oh, there have been times, where I "do" stand up and fight. But that's been very sparse.
I do have to say that even if this wasn't my thread, I like how everyone has interacted with each other. It's been really nice. Now this is a community I can be proud of.
Oh, and my leg is healing nicely. Thanks for asking, seldomseen.
EDIT:
This was meant to be after mrs starkers comment. I guess I spoke just a tad to soon.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #34 Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:16 PM
Reply #34 Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:16 PM
So why should people have to grow a thick skin? This is a hobby, it is supposed to be fun. It stops being fun when you constantly have to put up with other people's crap. People should not have to feel unwelcome just because one or two are either insensitive or just plain rude.
There was a time I spent hours a day on this message board, now I rarely stop by. I just prefer doing other things - things where I don't have to put up with aggro. Well? Why should I?
It's all too easy to be rude long distance isn't it? People who are rude, call names, 'don't give a toss' etc., are just cowards. But sometimes enough is enough and you have to call it a day. It shouldn't have to be that way, but often it is.
Kind of makes me think about all the familiar names no longer around - maybe they had enough too.
vStyler
Reply #36 Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:25 PM
No one has to..but I would advise it.. I just think that forums typically aren't the place for those who offend easily or are sensitive by nature. Like you said it's easy to be rude long distance, so knowing that.. better to toughen up a little if your going to hang around.. To me.. WC is rather a friendly place indeed..I find most people are helpful and cordial..I also try to be as nice and helpful as I can. I honestly don't see what the fuss is about, everyone has something mis-construed at some point..I myself am stalked at every turn right here on WC not in a misunderstood way but in an accusatory fashion..yet.. no one seems to give a crap one way or the other... Oh well.. I move on. If you want a forum hard knocks lesson.. go hang out on Neowin a bit...or hard knocks in general..try Glasgow, Scotland..circa 1978
Reply #36 Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:25 PM
So why should people have to grow a thick skin?
No one has to..but I would advise it.. I just think that forums typically aren't the place for those who offend easily or are sensitive by nature. Like you said it's easy to be rude long distance, so knowing that.. better to toughen up a little if your going to hang around.. To me.. WC is rather a friendly place indeed..I find most people are helpful and cordial..I also try to be as nice and helpful as I can. I honestly don't see what the fuss is about, everyone has something mis-construed at some point..I myself am stalked at every turn right here on WC not in a misunderstood way but in an accusatory fashion..yet.. no one seems to give a crap one way or the other... Oh well.. I move on. If you want a forum hard knocks lesson.. go hang out on Neowin a bit...or hard knocks in general..try Glasgow, Scotland..circa 1978
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Reply #21 Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:13 AM
Almost. Every. Day. [lol!]
I find myself leaning on the bathroom sink, staring into the bloodshot eyes in the mirror, mumbling "I can do this...I can."
Hope your leg's cool. Nice when clients come back again, I know well. Esp. when the bills are due and I'm moving one acct. to another, trying to cover.
Heard once, "For everyone else the birds sing...for me they s__t!"