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unclerob
Reply #2 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:09 AM 
What's up? I expected to read something when I got to this post, nothing is mentioned here?!
Maybe this is just a joke?
Al, what's up?
Reply #2 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:09 AM
What's up? I expected to read something when I got to this post, nothing is mentioned here?!
Maybe this is just a joke?
Al, what's up?
Alperium
Reply #3 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:19 AM
Reply #3 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:19 AM
Post removed.
I have written in admin's PM.
Sorry.
I have written in admin's PM.
Sorry.
Z71
Reply #4 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:34 AM
Reply #4 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:34 AM
Yes, when posting rips in the forums, it's like telling everyone to come download it before it's taken down.
Should always email an Admin., hence the confusion.
Should always email an Admin., hence the confusion.
Jafo
Reply #5 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:42 AM
Reply #5 Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:42 AM
Alperium...as far as I can see the image source has no limitations on image use/re-use...
PoSmedley
Reply #6 Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:24 AM
Image from author's site says you have to be a member to download...this is one of a selection of walls he does NOT give out for free
From the Digital Blasphemy (which the author has a link to) gallery, there is a copyright on the page...
and the all rights reserved link takes you to this...
At the least, the original author should get credit for something that probably took hours in a 3D program to make and render.
Reply #6 Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:24 AM
as far as I can see the image source has no limitations on image use/re-use.
Image from author's site says you have to be a member to download...this is one of a selection of walls he does NOT give out for free
From the Digital Blasphemy (which the author has a link to) gallery, there is a copyright on the page...
and the all rights reserved link takes you to this...
At the least, the original author should get credit for something that probably took hours in a 3D program to make and render.
Phoon
Reply #7 Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:49 AM
Reply #7 Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:49 AM
Good Job Po'.
No offense Jafo, but why did you dismiss it so easily and Po found the necessary info with minimal effort?
No offense Jafo, but why did you dismiss it so easily and Po found the necessary info with minimal effort?
PoSmedley
Reply #8 Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:51 AM
Reply #8 Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:51 AM
*note...since he charges for the privilege of downloading, I assume he wouldn't want it extracted from the logon file and passed around.
I wasn't going to post this stuff. I even PM'd the thread poster and asked him to email the admin's. I thought this was a kinda obvious rip.
I wasn't going to post this stuff. I even PM'd the thread poster and asked him to email the admin's. I thought this was a kinda obvious rip.
Alperium
Reply #9 Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:02 PM
Reply #9 Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:02 PM
Explain me, please: why my maps-based skins was removed? 
One rules for all or not?
One rules for all or not?
PoSmedley
Reply #10 Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:04 PM
patience. They are probably looking into this still.
Reply #10 Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:04 PM
One rules for all or not?
patience. They are probably looking into this still.
Jafo
Reply #14 Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:11 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:11 PM
No offense Jafo, but why did you dismiss it so easily and Po found the necessary info with minimal effort?
Those copyright notices are from Digital Blasphemy...a site whose displayed works are auto-rejected here, as the restrictions are crystal clear...however that was/is not the site linked-to in the notification to me.
Unless [it seems] you actually try to download the image you do not get notification you must purchase/be a member, etc.
The site linked-to has a patently pathetic copyright provision as no 'about' or 'content restrictions' or whatever is available directly...
MountainHawk
Reply #16 Saturday, May 26, 2007 9:17 PM
Reply #16 Saturday, May 26, 2007 9:17 PM
I find it slightly amusing that Alperium should protest about rips when he posts Spiderman images which are protected by copyright which can clearly be seen on the Spiderman site. He gives no credit to Marvel or Columbia pictures nor does he supply permission. How is this permissable?
MountainHawk
Reply #18 Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:48 PM
Reply #18 Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:48 PM
Fan art or not ,there is still an obligatoion to abide by copyright and the intellectual property rights of others. You cannot take someone elses art and call it your own and use it to advance your own position. I draw your attention to Apocalypse who produced a complete suite for Spiderman using his own original art and thereby honoured the copyright laws. He did not use any Spiderman registered art. Theft is theft and cannot be justified.
Snowman
Reply #19 Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:58 PM
Reply #19 Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:58 PM
MountainHawk: He gives no credit to Marvel or Columbia pictures nor does he supply permission. How is this permissable?
sydneysiders: fan art...
Indeed sydneysiders.
And fan art falls in under this section in our rules (which can be found on the About page)
and is moderated according to this:
If you upload something that is owned by someone else or contains materials owned by someone else, we have the right to delete that item without notification. For instance, if you upload a wallpaper with the Lord of the Rings logo and the owners of that logo come to us and request we remove it, we will do so. Or if you upload a WindowBlinds skin, of some operating system, and the OS vendor requests we remove it, we will do so.
So, if Marvel steps up and says 'Oy nutter - that's a no-go. The webdude is ours' - we'll remove it.
PoSmedley
Reply #20 Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:08 PM
It falls into 'fair use'.
Most people know, I am not a huge supporter of fan art being put in with original work... but, adapting the fan art for another use and with a skinning program that I haven't yet figured out, like bootskin or logon, does qualify and falls into fair use. It may even apply to wallpapers depending on how it's used or adapted.
In Alperium's defense..he has faced this issue before and handled it with class and maturity and has since followed the site guidelines (to the best of my limited knowledge) and has also become a very welcome contributor and helpful peer on the site.
If you feel the work is a RIP, it's best to report it to a mod or admin through the PM and enclose whatever links you have to what you believe is the original work.
It's been brought up that in future updates of the upload section, there may be a place for people to actually post such links and permissions with the uploaded work to make all of this easier. I hope it happens.
Finally, PM Alperium and ask him yourself. He's a great person to get to know.
Reply #20 Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:08 PM
Fan art or not ,there is still an obligatoion to abide by copyright and the intellectual property rights of others.
It falls into 'fair use'.
Most people know, I am not a huge supporter of fan art being put in with original work... but, adapting the fan art for another use and with a skinning program that I haven't yet figured out, like bootskin or logon, does qualify and falls into fair use. It may even apply to wallpapers depending on how it's used or adapted.
In Alperium's defense..he has faced this issue before and handled it with class and maturity and has since followed the site guidelines (to the best of my limited knowledge) and has also become a very welcome contributor and helpful peer on the site.
If you feel the work is a RIP, it's best to report it to a mod or admin through the PM and enclose whatever links you have to what you believe is the original work.
It's been brought up that in future updates of the upload section, there may be a place for people to actually post such links and permissions with the uploaded work to make all of this easier. I hope it happens.
Finally, PM Alperium and ask him yourself. He's a great person to get to know.
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Reply #1 Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:58 AM