I also got Snubbed for my EarthEscape Idea, I had before DreamScene was even out.. They just want the creativity of the community so that they can create there own dreams.. This is just a way for them to make money.. Their Desktop Earth is OK,, but gets old fast.. Check out http://forum.worldwindcentral.com/showthread.php?t=9121 and also as I said in past posts there are other sites to post on... http://www.vistadreams.org/ as this is also a paid subscription.. As a community we should start a FREE Dream Search. Like Deviantart.com . Let me Know I have access to lots of servers..

But I think in Time all Dreams will be chargeable
I understand that these Dreams and Loops take time but that is the nature of all Art work,, Which these day's comes free from the internet, I would hope that Great Works will also get shared like the awsome wallpaper that is available at interfacelift.com and deviantart. Thanks...

PS.. This is for the Community not Stardock Admins since I know they will disagree..
See ya. Austinknight  

Desktop Earth is a dynamic wall.  It required art resources and code.

As with any product, there are copyright, trademark, trade dress, etc. type issues that could arise, especially when comparing a paid for product against something that is free.

That is definitely not the plan, nor has it been the trend.  Stardock has released 13 dreams.  Only 3 have been released for sale, and even one of those is free if you own Object Desktop. 

 

Like WC hasn't been offering up great free work for as long or longer?? Just chaps my hide when people come here talking about community then go on to tout other sites and how much better they are.. I suppose Deviantart doesn't sell artwork do they? I myself am tired of hearing people who have given nothing..whining and crying about having to pay for anothers hard work. You accuse Stardock of stealing your creativity?
How so? You haven't submitted a single piece of artwork to the community

That seems unlikely.

However, I think you will find that there is a threshold of labor an individual will put into something before they want to be compensated for their time.

WinCustomize.com has been providing free skins, themes, wallpapers, etc. for over 6 years. It seems a bit of a stretch to complain that the existence of 3 non-free animated wallpapers (and Desktop Earth requried months of man-hours to create as its a dynamic dream) somehow constitutes a trend towards commercialization.

My beef with the other "earth" animated wallpapers isn't so much what they do but rather how they were presented.  In a single screenshot or thumbnail, it's easy to make something that looks like the Dynamic Desktop Earth Dream. 

But a looping video is not remotely the same as something that dynamically changes its lighting over the course of the day, allows the user to set the rotation speed, has the planet surface change based on the time of year, and uses less than a quarter the amount of CPU that a standard Dream uses.  But in a screenshot, those differences aren't apparent. I personally found them to be misleading to users (whether intentionally or unintentionally is irrelevant). 

Let me use another example:

If you spent a year making an animated fish aquarium desktop where the fish dynamically swim around and released it. Would you not be peeved if someone took a 10 second video of their home fish aquarium and uploaded it and in the thumbnail they looked similar?

"I myself am tired of hearing people who have given nothing..whining and crying about having to pay for another's hard work. You accuse Stardock of stealing your creativity?
How so? You haven't submitted a single piece of artwork to the community"

I Have summited a Dream but was turned down because of the guidelines,, IE.. Desktop Earth was about to be released.. I put Several Weeks in getting up to the version I uploaded,, but based on sharing QUALITY work with others I offered my work for free with NO intension to charging just to share a great idea with the community.. and as far a deviantart goes.. Yes they do sell art but they give away Lots of AWSOME Works of art for free to their community. I Personally believe that since this product is for those of us that forked out a lot of money for Vista Ultimate that this FREE Sharing of QUALITY work should be going on a lot longer before charging.. then raising the price again for desktop earth. I understand that you are in it to make money.. but I think since the HD loops are Just as good as Dynamic Dreams, In my opinion! that is what US as the Community want to see,, More FREE High Quality work.. If it's all about making a dime then do Banner adds but I don't want to have 60 dollars of Backgrounds that I'll only use for a while. I will continue to upload as much quality work as I can.

By the way Stardock, if Dynamic dreams are so different than HD Loops then why reject my EarthEscape Loop.. ? I believe people would have loved to view it, I have shown it to many people and have had great reviews. and it's free ????????

As you can all read I gave in the beginning great Raves about this site and the hard work of others before getting rejected . http://forum.worldwindcentral.com/showthread.php?t=9121

This type of selected rejection sucks. Specialy when all I hear is that Desktop Earth is a Dynamic Loop and not the High CPU, low quality HD Loops..that EarthEscape was.. If there some much different then "allow everyone to enjoy my dream"
AustinKnight

Desktop Earth isn't a video, so it can't be a HD loop.  It's very low-CPU usage compared to any video since all the work is on your graphics card.  It is a 3D application that shows correct day/night cycle on a rendered planet earth.  It updates as the day goes on too, so when it's night outside your window, the desktop will show your part of the globe accordingly.  It rotates, centers on your location if you choose, spins fast, slow, can have the quality settings adjusted to your taste/needs. 

Austinknight ...I really think you need to see things in a clearer perspective.  Wincustomize.com has been [likewise with Deviantart] around considerably longer than your joining Wincustomize.

BOTH sites have been a source of much free content for about the same time...around 6+ years, as both sites 'evolved' from an earlier one [skinz.org] which also hosted free content for all.

Skinning [now including dynamic walls - dreams] is coming of age...which means with maturity comes commercial viability, and no, it's not about 'making a dime' it's about public credibility for what is no longer purely the realm of the amateur hobbyist.  Commercial artists are now entering/emerging from the fold.

Re "giving away Lots of AWSOME Works of art for free" ... It'll be something like 99.95% of all Wincustomize.com content is FREE [I didn't bother counting, but the point is made]...

I think the point that Austinknight is making is that other than the earth being in the center of the screen, Desktop Earth is very different from his video loop (and mine for that matter). Desktop Earth does so much more (as Zoomba has already specified) and that is what makes it much better and worth paying for. Videos of the earth spinning are repetitive and if people want something more than a 40 second loop, they can buy Desktop Earth. What's wrong with having a poor mans version of the earth dream?

Anther point being made is the reason for rejecting a dream. If the reason for rejection is that it looks too similar to another dream, then WinCustomize should start rejecting waterfall dreams and dreams with rippling water in front of a mountain/moon/city. Don’t you think the Early Morning dream by candiedbug with the waving field of grass is just as similar to Blissful Sunset (a premium dream) as ours is to Desktop Earth? What would have happened if Austinknight or I submitted our dreams before the announcement of Desktop Earth, would Desktop Earth been canceled because it would have looked too much like our creations?

Great Points,, We just want to share our hard work with others, so that they may enjoy it like we do..  

As was said before, "Stardock reserves the right" If it was going to interfere with the profitabilty of something I was selling I would deny it too. Everyone doesn't always get what they want. Sometimes business prevails over a group hug. I would agree with Frogboys arguement in the fact that the Stardock dream OBVIOUSLY have a lot more man hours than a looped dream, perhaps the majority of the community would not have realized this and compared at first glance it may have rendered the premium dream not as valuable as it would have not compared to a similar but inferior dream. It's just business, people shouldn't take it personally...It's a dog eat dog world.
My suggestion for dream makers is to conceptualize Dream's that no one else could possibly have thought of instead of jumping on the Planets/waterfalls bandwagon. When I design a WB I wanna know DAMN well that its going to be something someone hasn't already done or would have even thought about pulling off.

What stops Stardock from seeing the creativity of the community and making a dynamic version of it for them to sell and cancel out the original creators idea's.. If I'm going to upload any more dreams I would like to know that it isn't taken advantage of. For example my post of EarthEscape was posted day's before the release of Desktop Earth so it was new and exciting for me.. Then the rejection It has been OK Since I have been getting private massages for a Download location, but what a bummer the rest of the community will never be able to see it and it's FREE. The SDK for creating a Dynamic dream isn't even released.. Confusion.. Leaves a lot of room for Speculation?>?>? Oh well enough of my BITCHING.. I have another Idea in the works.. Hope You all will be able to see it.. Fingers Crossed.

vSkyler, I agree completely with your statements. I really have no problem with them denying my Orbit dream because it looks too much like Desktop Earth. I understand where they are coming from. My only complaint was that they accepted a version of my earth dream, then, mistakenly set the creation date to the 4th oldest submitted dream causing it to drop to the bottom of the “Newest Dreams” list. In fact, it’s still there, doomed to obscurity because people coming to look for new dreams won’t see it because it never had its day on the main page and never showed at the top of the "Newest Dreams" category. Actually, I take that back, it had 5 minutes on the main page before it disappeared. I asked to have it fixed by posting a thread on this forum, but got no replay in two days. It wasn’t until I posted this thread that someone responded only to have the update date changed and not the date that affects the “Newest Dreams” list. I may have jumped to the wrong conclusion when it happened, but I don’t think I had far to jump.

Intellectual copyright.

To do so, just as with any other skinner, artist, individual, they'd be required to seek prior consent to use another's idea/image/work.

You did.  With time, and experience/interaction with Stardock/Wincustomize you will come to realise this....

I look forward to it.

I just want to point out that WinCustomize has rejected many skins in the past which looked too similar to what someone else had released.

If looking at screenshot A and screenshot B, if both look nearly identical, just based on the screenshot, there's a good chance it'll get rejected.  This isn't reserved to Dreams.  Any long-time WinCustomize user would already know that. 

This sort of discussion has been battled out for years in skinning. Winamp, wallpapers and WindowBlinds skins in particular  have been rejected because the screenshot looked too similar to something already uploaded.

It is up to the person who comes later to make their upload look sufficiently distinct. 

I was curious if it's OK to upload my Orbit dream into my personal page only, even though you denied it because it too close to Desktop Earth?