Why Just Vista Ultimate?
Monday, March 26, 2007 by NanaLisa | Discussion: Animated Wallpapers
Why is Dream only available for Vista Ultimate? Vista Home Premium has everything Ultimate has except the business stuff. 
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Yosmel
Reply #22 Friday, March 30, 2007 12:56 AM
Sure... they might. But then again... they would probably lose all of it (and then some) when Microsoft retaliates with a nice big juicy lawsuit. Honestly I'm not even sure if Microsoft can sue Stardock if they did something like that, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit.
Lawsuits aside though, pissing Microsoft off just ain't a good idea - especially if you're partners.
So in the end what happens? Dreamscene will remain a product of Windows Ultimate regardless of how many people whine. No one said it was fair - but that's life.
Reply #22 Friday, March 30, 2007 12:56 AM
Won't stardock make alot more money if they make deskscapes work with all editions rather than just ultimate? like make a standalone version that doesn't require dreamscene?
Sure... they might. But then again... they would probably lose all of it (and then some) when Microsoft retaliates with a nice big juicy lawsuit. Honestly I'm not even sure if Microsoft can sue Stardock if they did something like that, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit.
Lawsuits aside though, pissing Microsoft off just ain't a good idea - especially if you're partners.
So in the end what happens? Dreamscene will remain a product of Windows Ultimate regardless of how many people whine. No one said it was fair - but that's life.
Tripdog
Reply #23 Friday, March 30, 2007 10:37 AM
Reply #23 Friday, March 30, 2007 10:37 AM
if you own ULTImate and want dreams, then yes you will download deskscapes and the dreams....stardock is hoping that those who are getting those free dreams might purchase their software to enhance their version of windows.hey maybe 1 out of 5 will buy, but that is a win for stardock who knows that if 1 person has a great experience with the software, they will probaly tell 3 others and they will tell more which gets more sales.....
Austinknight
Reply #24 Friday, March 30, 2007 11:26 AM
Reply #24 Friday, March 30, 2007 11:26 AM
I Believe that VLC can Also play movies as wallpaper.. Checkout VLC,, Don't get me wrong I love Vista Ultimate,, But Dreams should be an addon for all Vista users.
Austinknight
P.S. Wait for EarthEscape an HD 1920x1200 Dream..
Awsome should come out any day, I uploaded it 5 Day's Ago.
Austinknight
P.S. Wait for EarthEscape an HD 1920x1200 Dream..
Awsome should come out any day, I uploaded it 5 Day's Ago.
Frogboy
Reply #25 Friday, March 30, 2007 11:40 AM
Reply #25 Friday, March 30, 2007 11:40 AM
VLC actually doesn't make my CPU run high like Dreamscene does
I've used VLC and it's nice but let's be real, if it really solved th eproblem, we'd all be using animated wallpapers by now. It's been out for years.
It's like those arguments people used to use with DesktopX by saying that you could (in theory) do some of the same things with Active Desktop. The proof, they say, is in the pudding. 
dynamikhero
Reply #26 Friday, March 30, 2007 7:24 PM
Reply #26 Friday, March 30, 2007 7:24 PM
My tip: take a 5 to 10 second high quality video loop (via, mpeg2) and import into adobe flash mx 2004 or later. save as animated GIF image and resize it to 768x1024. with the right compression you could have a high quality animated image. now add the image to your desktop and WALLAH!!! animated desktop. i do that because i myself can not afford anything but xp. and it's a lot better than using a program to do the work which will decrease cpu usage.
Yosmel
Reply #27 Friday, March 30, 2007 7:48 PM
Wow... yeah... If I had to do that for every single animated wallpaper I would forget animated wallpapers after about a day.. or two.
Reply #27 Friday, March 30, 2007 7:48 PM
My tip: take a 5 to 10 second high quality video loop (via, mpeg2) and import into adobe flash mx 2004 or later. save as animated GIF image and resize it to 768x1024. with the right compression you could have a high quality animated image. now add the image to your desktop and WALLAH!!! animated desktop. i do that because i myself can not afford anything but xp. and it's a lot better than using a program to do the work which will decrease cpu usage.
Wow... yeah... If I had to do that for every single animated wallpaper I would forget animated wallpapers after about a day.. or two.
Kirkburn
Reply #28 Saturday, March 31, 2007 7:05 AM
So for a smooth 10 second animation that would require well over 300 very large images in GIF format, which, last I recall, only supports 256 colours. Yeah, that would look lovely. And totally not a large file.
Reply #28 Saturday, March 31, 2007 7:05 AM
My tip: take a 5 to 10 second high quality video loop (via, mpeg2) and import into adobe flash mx 2004 or later. save as animated GIF image and resize it to 768x1024. with the right compression you could have a high quality animated image. now add the image to your desktop and WALLAH!!! animated desktop. i do that because i myself can not afford anything but xp. and it's a lot better than using a program to do the work which will decrease cpu usage.
So for a smooth 10 second animation that would require well over 300 very large images in GIF format, which, last I recall, only supports 256 colours. Yeah, that would look lovely. And totally not a large file.
NGTV
Reply #29 Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:37 AM
My tip: take a 5 to 10 second high quality video loop (via, mpeg2) and import into adobe flash mx 2004 or later. save as animated GIF image and resize it to 768x1024. with the right compression you could have a high quality animated image. now add the image to your desktop and WALLAH!!! animated desktop. i do that because i myself can not afford anything but xp. and it's a lot better than using a program to do the work which will decrease cpu usage.
WHAAMSLOOOW!
Even fluid GIFs look stuttered on any res above 1024.
Reply #29 Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:37 AM
My tip: take a 5 to 10 second high quality video loop (via, mpeg2) and import into adobe flash mx 2004 or later. save as animated GIF image and resize it to 768x1024. with the right compression you could have a high quality animated image. now add the image to your desktop and WALLAH!!! animated desktop. i do that because i myself can not afford anything but xp. and it's a lot better than using a program to do the work which will decrease cpu usage.
WHAAMSLOOOW!
Even fluid GIFs look stuttered on any res above 1024.
Amerasu
Reply #30 Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:03 AM
Reply #30 Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:03 AM
Why pay for bloat?
Check out Beryl on Linux when coupled with GLX or AIGLX.
You can flip the entire desktop like a cube and a bunch of stuff Vista can't do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2qGnasTV3c&NR=1 (<--this vid shows the entire cube with transparency and z-ordering)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
Check out Beryl on Linux when coupled with GLX or AIGLX.
You can flip the entire desktop like a cube and a bunch of stuff Vista can't do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2qGnasTV3c&NR=1 (<--this vid shows the entire cube with transparency and z-ordering)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
aufisch
Reply #31 Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:46 AM
I hope you mean Vista, not Deskscapes as I fail to see the bloat in a proggie that uses the Windows GUI to swap dreams.
...... now if Deskscapes came with an integrated unzipper, a Desktop cleanup-wizard, a half-assed Burning program, an annoying User Account Protection and a weak Paint program, THAT would be bloat....
Reply #31 Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:46 AM
Why pay for bloat?
I hope you mean Vista, not Deskscapes as I fail to see the bloat in a proggie that uses the Windows GUI to swap dreams.
...... now if Deskscapes came with an integrated unzipper, a Desktop cleanup-wizard, a half-assed Burning program, an annoying User Account Protection and a weak Paint program, THAT would be bloat....
NGTV
Reply #32 Sunday, April 1, 2007 8:58 AM
Truth be told, isn't Linux theoretically more bloat-ish with all its 2000+ dependancies?
After the big 2 fix their drivers CPU usage will come down not just in DreamScene but also DWM itself, trust me. And Non-DWM Vista is rather like XP.
And with Yod, 3D cube desktops are A-OK.
an annoying User Account Protection
Do you want to apply this video? It might contain substances harmful to you and your PC. Do you REALLY want to apply it?
Reply #32 Sunday, April 1, 2007 8:58 AM
Why pay for bloat?
Check out Beryl on Linux when coupled with GLX or AIGLX.
You can flip the entire desktop like a cube and a bunch of stuff Vista can't do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2qGnasTV3c&NR=1 (<--this vid shows the entire cube with transparency and z-ordering)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
Check out Beryl on Linux when coupled with GLX or AIGLX.
You can flip the entire desktop like a cube and a bunch of stuff Vista can't do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2qGnasTV3c&NR=1 (<--this vid shows the entire cube with transparency and z-ordering)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
Truth be told, isn't Linux theoretically more bloat-ish with all its 2000+ dependancies?
After the big 2 fix their drivers CPU usage will come down not just in DreamScene but also DWM itself, trust me. And Non-DWM Vista is rather like XP.
And with Yod, 3D cube desktops are A-OK.
an annoying User Account Protection
Do you want to apply this video? It might contain substances harmful to you and your PC. Do you REALLY want to apply it?
vStyler
Reply #33 Sunday, April 1, 2007 6:17 PM
Im glad i dont spend all my time flipping windows around.. looks like something with too much time on their hands would need.. to me.. Completely redundant as pertains to day to day use of my PC.
My 14 year old LOVES it though.
Reply #33 Sunday, April 1, 2007 6:17 PM
You can flip the entire desktop like a cube and a bunch of stuff Vista can't do.
Im glad i dont spend all my time flipping windows around.. looks like something with too much time on their hands would need.. to me.. Completely redundant as pertains to day to day use of my PC.
My 14 year old LOVES it though.
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Reply #21 Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:14 PM