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Thursday, December 7, 2006 by Skinhit | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
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Reply #42 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:48 AM
| Seems damn near every wallpaper maker has an overly inflated ego. |
I'm sure all of them will love to hear that!
Reply #43 Friday, December 8, 2006 10:36 AM
| Seems damn near every wallpaper maker has an overly inflated ego. |
Well my missus is just starting out and is learning the ropes, and I can guarantee her ego ain't inflated...unless I want something.
Reply #44 Friday, December 8, 2006 10:50 AM
| The id is an important part of our personality because as newborns, it allows us to get our basic needs met. Freud believed that the id is based on our pleasure principle. In other words, the id wants whatever feels good at the time, with no consideration for the reality of the situation. When a child is hungry, the id wants food, and therefore the child cries. When the child needs to be changed, the id cries. When the child is uncomfortable, in pain, too hot, too cold, or just wants attention, the id speaks up until his or her needs are met. |
Reply #45 Friday, December 8, 2006 11:02 AM
| Seems damn near every wallpaper maker has an overly inflated ego. |
I had to think on that one. I don't know about overinflated...but as an artist...of any kind...aren't we attention and approval seekers to some degree? That may account for some of the passion that goes into these kinds of threads. I don't know that it's ego as much as or partly just bruised feelings.
| How many globes/swirlies would one have to make |
How many do we need in the gallery? How many look like the last one and get a higher rating than something off the wall and different from the norm? These are just questions, not complaints.
| How many movie critic's have made a movie? How many food critic's have ever been a Chef's? One doesn't have to make walls to Mod them. |
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. All the rest are critics.
I would guess whom ever is modding was picked to do so because they have an eye for something, wether they have actually made anything or not. I can accept that. I think some people feel like the the mod and or mods without experience may be more of an 'armchair quarterback' for less of a better analogy. Where the coach might say, "If you think you can do better, then give it a try."
I kind of get the feeling that the relegating of a work to the personal gallery is going to cause a lot of mixed feelings. I wonder, if this was not the new option for mods, would the work be in the gallery and not rejected? I imagine some things are still getting rejected all together, right? So the mods have to operate around 3 categories as it were. Rejects, Good enough for the gallery, but not that good, so we can put it 'here', and Gallery?
| "Very nice, dear, but it's just not refrigerator material, so we'll hang this one up in your closet." |
As this is a new thing, I'll sit back and see how it plays out. It should be interesting.
Reply #46 Friday, December 8, 2006 11:10 AM
| As far as i know you havent been around skinning very long, you do not skin and have no experience rating walls based on anything other than your personal taste and yet your put in charge of moderating wallpapers? you decide a wall is not worthy of the library, so it goes to the personal gallery. Fellow seasoned artists see the wall and think it deserves a higher rating than you gave it and rate it higher and yet it stays in the personal gallery? I'm sorry Zoomba but when the other moderators rated walls they were consistent and their decision was based on years of experience in the skinning community. |
I have to step in here, as this is simply...well...getting silly.
1) Zoomba does not function in a vacuum.
2) Moderation is not by one person, just the final posting is.
3) If I were the one to moderate that wall (and we'll keep in mind that I've been with Stardock for 11 1/2 years) I would have done exactly what he did.
In the moderation section, there is an area for moderators to leave comments on submissions. It is not unusual to see 2 or 3 comments prior to the final moderator processing it. So, you can't say that the wallpaper submission/rejection is all on Zoomba, because it's not.
We are *trying* to give art that doesn't fit in the wallpaper gallery a chance by putting it on people's personal pages. This is allow people to submit work, and keep it around even if it doesn't make it to the gallery. The other option would be to simply reject walls that don't cut it, and only put things on the personal pages if that boxed had been checked by the artist.
In the end, no matter what we do, there will be somebody who thinks we're "wrong". Not much we can do about that, since it's obvious that there is no real solution to this problem.
Honest opinion on your wallpaper? Try something original. There is nothing unique or compelling about a shiny orb with rings around it. Just because it is technically fine doesn't make it a good wallpaper. There are hundreds of wallpapers that are based on shiny orbs on this site. Unless it is truly unique in the way it is made, it shouldn't make it to the gallery.
Reply #47 Friday, December 8, 2006 11:24 AM
| The other option would be to simply reject walls that don't cut it, and only put things on the personal pages if that boxed had been checked by the artist. |
Seems to be the preferred approach, (based on the limited number of responders though). Perhaps worthy of a poll to find the answer? I think the analogy by Po,
| "Very nice, dear, but it's just not refrigerator material, so we'll hang this one up in your closet. |
is felt by many.
Reply #48 Friday, December 8, 2006 11:25 AM
| The other option would be to simply reject walls that don't cut it, and only put things on the personal pages if that boxed had been checked by the artist. |
I think you're onto something there...
Reply #49 Friday, December 8, 2006 11:56 AM
I think these sort of 'bashing / flaming' threads and rating threads are getting old (s--t, they have been old for a long time). Stop complaining so much people!!!!!!!!!
Reply #50 Friday, December 8, 2006 12:03 PM
| also if a wall drops below 4 stars, it is automatically removed from the library, right?...is it not possible to use that same automation so when a wall goes above 2 stars it comes out of the personal gallery, and 4 stars would go to the public library??? |
is there an answer to this?
Reply #51 Friday, December 8, 2006 12:12 PM
| The only time a skin will be moved FROM the personal page to the main gallery is if it comes up for moderation again for a major update. |
I think that was the answer.
Reply #52 Friday, December 8, 2006 12:18 PM
| also if a wall drops below 4 stars, it is automatically removed from the library, right?. |
Not so.
I believe that once it's in the library it stays in the library unless a mod moves it.
Reply #53 Friday, December 8, 2006 12:18 PM
Reply #54 Friday, December 8, 2006 12:27 PM
| Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. All the rest are critics. |
HEY NOW! let's not start gettin' personal here!
Reply #55 Friday, December 8, 2006 1:13 PM
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Reply #57 Friday, December 8, 2006 1:27 PM
| also if a wall drops below 4 stars, it is automatically removed from the library, right?. |
Hey Skinhit, the 4 stars for walls that has been talked about in other threads is the rating filter ( when they are working ) for unregistered users.
Reply #58 Friday, December 8, 2006 1:32 PM
As long as I've been here the wallpaper argument has raged. If the standard is set too high wallpaper artists moan their walls shouldn't have been rejected and get all miffy. If the standard is zero, then people complain about the poor quality of the library and that they can't find a decent wall in a sea of tripe.
Whatever you do someone isn't going to be happy...
Reply #59 Friday, December 8, 2006 2:18 PM
man! ya just gotta know he's regretting posting that thing up with nuthin in it now!
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Reply #41 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:26 AM