Personal Gallery...
Thursday, December 7, 2006 by Skinhit | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
This wall went straight to my gallery with 2 stars...So unless you browse my gallery occasionally youll never see it...So i thought i would advertise... 
You can see more of my work here WWW Link
You can see more of my work here WWW Link
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BigDogBigFeet
Reply #22 Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:48 PM
Reply #22 Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:48 PM
Hi Skinhit! I downloaded it and 1 other as well. Maybe time for a screenshot. I'll have to see what's cookin. 
Hang in there, just probably a difference in tastes or something.
Hang in there, just probably a difference in tastes or something.
Skinhit
Reply #23 Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:53 PM
Reply #23 Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:53 PM
thanks Bigdog...i appreciate you stopping in here and my gallery
Skinhit
Reply #24 Thursday, December 7, 2006 9:11 PM
Reply #24 Thursday, December 7, 2006 9:11 PM
ive resubmiited it b/c its up to 3.5 stars and 2 others that are now up to 2.5 stars...according to the guidelines, all 3 walls should go straight into the library...stay tuned
Zoomba
Reply #27 Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:54 PM
Reply #27 Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:54 PM
From the discussion earlier this week...
https://forums.wincustomize.com/?forumid=188&aid=137488&p=1
In the thread I state that I am placing the cut-off for putting skins to "Personal Page Only" as being 5 (or 2.5 out of 5 stars), splitting the difference. This lead to confusion over the mobility of walls between personal page and gallery.
Further down in the thread you will find my reply on items moving from personal page to public gallery. Emphasis added here:
Resubmitting a wall for moderation because it now has a higher rating is not an update to the work itself.
https://forums.wincustomize.com/?forumid=188&aid=137488&p=1
In the thread I state that I am placing the cut-off for putting skins to "Personal Page Only" as being 5 (or 2.5 out of 5 stars), splitting the difference. This lead to confusion over the mobility of walls between personal page and gallery.
Further down in the thread you will find my reply on items moving from personal page to public gallery. Emphasis added here:
| The only time a skin will be moved FROM the personal page to the main gallery is if it comes up for moderation again for a major update. This is NOT an invitation to resubmit walls previously placed on the personal page after you've had friends vote the wall up a bit. We can check the ratings records on skins and will spot attempts to manipulate the system. |
Resubmitting a wall for moderation because it now has a higher rating is not an update to the work itself.
Skinhit
Reply #28 Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:30 PM
Reply #28 Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:30 PM
ok...without turning this into a pissing match, and meaning no disrespect, here is what i dont understand... As far as i know you havent been around skinning very long, you do not skin and have no experience rating walls based on anything other than your personal taste and yet your put in charge of moderating wallpapers? you decide a wall is not worthy of the library, so it goes to the personal gallery. Fellow seasoned artists see the wall and think it deserves a higher rating than you gave it and rate it higher and yet it stays in the personal gallery? I'm sorry Zoomba but when the other moderators rated walls they were consistent and their decision was based on years of experience in the skinning community. I would much rather have a wall rejected by Jafo then confined to a personal page by you...it just doesnt make sense. also if a wall drops below 4 stars, it is automatically removed from the library, right?...is it not possible to use that same automation so when a wall goes above 2 stars it comes out of the personal gallery, and 4 stars would go to the public library???
Bandit4edu
Reply #29 Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:43 PM
Reply #29 Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:43 PM
put the kiddies to bed, Maude...this looks to be a good 'un...and bring me a ginger ale as you come back by the fridge.
moi?
| manipulate the system. |
moi?
tawoods
Reply #30 Friday, December 8, 2006 12:14 AM
Could ya git her to grab a Moon Pie and Grape Nehi
Reply #30 Friday, December 8, 2006 12:14 AM
| and bring me a ginger ale as you come back by the fridge. |
Could ya git her to grab a Moon Pie and Grape Nehi
starkers
Reply #32 Friday, December 8, 2006 2:15 AM
Reply #32 Friday, December 8, 2006 2:15 AM
Slight hijack....Skinhit, tried again and again to send ya that email but still no success via your WC email link....still keeps saying I'm missing some vital information.....
Anyhow, just in case you missed it in the other thread, my missus now has a gallery at devianArt that shows the walls I was trying to send you, plus a few more she has since completed... WWW Link
Anyhow, just in case you missed it in the other thread, my missus now has a gallery at devianArt that shows the walls I was trying to send you, plus a few more she has since completed... WWW Link
Skinhit
Reply #33 Friday, December 8, 2006 2:18 AM
Reply #33 Friday, December 8, 2006 2:18 AM
Damn Hijackers! Seriously tho' Wow! @ Mrs.Starkers Gallery over there! What is she waiting for...Submit here, Submit here!
mrs_starkers
Reply #34 Friday, December 8, 2006 7:29 AM
I see that you had a look my stuff on deviantart, thank you for taking the time to check out what I'm up to. I'd be interested in your thoughts and if there's anything you can suggest that would help me to improve. Being that I'm new to it, making walls and this graphic art stuff, I'd appreciate any positive input that'll help me become a better artist.
Reply #34 Friday, December 8, 2006 7:29 AM
| What is she waiting for...Submit here, Submit here! |
I see that you had a look my stuff on deviantart, thank you for taking the time to check out what I'm up to. I'd be interested in your thoughts and if there's anything you can suggest that would help me to improve. Being that I'm new to it, making walls and this graphic art stuff, I'd appreciate any positive input that'll help me become a better artist.
Phoon
Reply #35 Friday, December 8, 2006 8:07 AM
I think you pissed an entire gallon with #28 but are in piss denial with the statement quoted..
Careful... Po' has to topper of all piss stories ever and he will win!!!
Reply #35 Friday, December 8, 2006 8:07 AM
| ok...without turning this into a pissing match, |
I think you pissed an entire gallon with #28 but are in piss denial with the statement quoted..
Careful... Po' has to topper of all piss stories ever and he will win!!!
PoSmedley
Reply #36 Friday, December 8, 2006 8:35 AM
That just reads all wrong.
Reply #36 Friday, December 8, 2006 8:35 AM
| Po' has to topper of all piss stories ever and he will win!!! |
That just reads all wrong.
PoSmedley
Reply #38 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:00 AM
Reply #38 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:00 AM
I feel for you skinhit. I will grant that walls may be judged differently than say a WB, or DXTHEME or such, as (It was stated somewhere in this thread) they are not necessarily 'skins'. I think they are more art or even personal, as they reflect, often in detail that cannot be captured in the other 'skinning' apps, a personal mood, thought, idea, expression, etc. Which has me beg the question...What are they judged on? From what I understand...usability, accuracy (depth, dimension, shadows, etc), but what else? Art. How do you judge it? I love all kinds of art. I can appreciate all of it and the time and talent that went into it. It doesn't mean I would want all of it on my wall or desktop. I have never 'understood' abstract stuff. Being that it is abstract, how the hell do you begin to judge it, compared to (JUST AN EXAMPLE) my wall 'Rage Of Angel' which is clearer in it's image representation?
When I look a work of abstract art, for me, it's a love it or leave it response. (I may not know art, but I know what I like) How is one person qualified to judge/rate vector, 3D, abstract...or ALL of it, when it is ALL so different? I assume there is a very basic guideline for the process?
As of today, 'Rage Of Angel' is up from 4 stars to 6. It's got 62 downloads...and I have no way of knowing if it would have had that many if I hadn't started the thread I did (which I started just to find out why I couldn't see it the wallpaper gallery to begin with), but I would venture to guess...probably not.I don't know how you even begin to set things up on a site like this, so I realize I have no way of knowing if it can be done that a wall is moved to the gallery when the ratings go up...but it sure doesn't seem fair that it can be moved FROM the gallery/view when the rating goes down.
To me..IMHO...sending it to the personal gallery is the same as rejecting it. Even though I don't care for rejections, I understand this is all part of the experience. I will sometimes question it, or sometimes try to reimagine the work and try again, or sometimes look at it and say 'Yeah, it was lousy.' lol. But for some reason...and I don't know why or believe I am alone in feeling this...it really bugs the crap out of me having it sent to my personal gallery. It's kinda like your Mom saying "Very nice, dear, but it's just not refrigerator material, so we'll hang this one up in your closet."
When I look a work of abstract art, for me, it's a love it or leave it response. (I may not know art, but I know what I like) How is one person qualified to judge/rate vector, 3D, abstract...or ALL of it, when it is ALL so different? I assume there is a very basic guideline for the process?
As of today, 'Rage Of Angel' is up from 4 stars to 6. It's got 62 downloads...and I have no way of knowing if it would have had that many if I hadn't started the thread I did (which I started just to find out why I couldn't see it the wallpaper gallery to begin with), but I would venture to guess...probably not.I don't know how you even begin to set things up on a site like this, so I realize I have no way of knowing if it can be done that a wall is moved to the gallery when the ratings go up...but it sure doesn't seem fair that it can be moved FROM the gallery/view when the rating goes down.
To me..IMHO...sending it to the personal gallery is the same as rejecting it. Even though I don't care for rejections, I understand this is all part of the experience. I will sometimes question it, or sometimes try to reimagine the work and try again, or sometimes look at it and say 'Yeah, it was lousy.' lol. But for some reason...and I don't know why or believe I am alone in feeling this...it really bugs the crap out of me having it sent to my personal gallery. It's kinda like your Mom saying "Very nice, dear, but it's just not refrigerator material, so we'll hang this one up in your closet."
ZubaZ
Reply #39 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:16 AM
Reply #39 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:16 AM
I'm going to stick my foot in it this time but why not offer another opinion, right?
Walls are not skinning. They are art. Submit them to devart and be done with it. Remove all walls that are not included with WB skins or suites or DX themes.
You want an art site for walls . . they are out there.
We don't want WC filling up with crap walls, but we don't want "the man" to be too restrictive. And what I think is crap you might think is beautiful. No one is a winner.
Move along. These are not the droids you are looking for
Walls are not skinning. They are art. Submit them to devart and be done with it. Remove all walls that are not included with WB skins or suites or DX themes.
You want an art site for walls . . they are out there.
We don't want WC filling up with crap walls, but we don't want "the man" to be too restrictive. And what I think is crap you might think is beautiful. No one is a winner.
Move along. These are not the droids you are looking for
Phoon
Reply #40 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:21 AM
ACK! (in my best "Bill the Cat" voice).
I meant to say that ..
Po' has THE topper... not to. I guess there is only a small window of opportunity allowed to edit your posts. I pissed my opportunity away...
Reply #40 Friday, December 8, 2006 9:21 AM
| That just reads all wrong. |
ACK! (in my best "Bill the Cat" voice).
I meant to say that ..
Po' has THE topper... not to. I guess there is only a small window of opportunity allowed to edit your posts. I pissed my opportunity away...
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Reply #21 Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:42 PM
Forgiveness is gladly granted, Bandit. Not everyone is well versed in all that tabloid journalism and paparazzi stuff....you know, like printing all those lies and sneakily taken pics of beautiful starlets sunbaking topless.
Or driving a cat up a pole...to avoid being skinned.